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Re: weed [message #285522 is a reply to message #285491] Fri, 21 September 2007 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: weed [message #285545 is a reply to message #272284] Fri, 21 September 2007 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: weed [message #285551 is a reply to message #285491] Fri, 21 September 2007 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DarkDemin wrote on Fri, 21 September 2007 10:59

I LIKE PIE.

Probably cream pie. Wink


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Re: weed [message #285576 is a reply to message #272284] Fri, 21 September 2007 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Humans are the only animals that do not instinctively run away from smoke.
Re: weed [message #285613 is a reply to message #285407] Fri, 21 September 2007 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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xptek wrote on Thu, 20 September 2007 22:00

Jecht wrote on Thu, 20 September 2007 05:42

I feel sorry for you. You need drugs for your life not to suck.

Alcohol has absolutely no effect on my mental health btw.


I'm terribly sorry you "need" alcohol (surprise! also a drug.) for your life not to suck as well. Feel free to be continue being a condescending prick though.

Marijuana has no effect on my mental health either, but that's because it's been established that smoking is only harmful to those who are already predisposed for mental health issues.


You know what assuming does right? It makes an ass...out of you. I said alcohol has no effect on me because I don't drink, at all. You know what I need for my life not to suck? I'll give you a rundown:

An Education,
My fiancee,
My family,
Good health,
A house,
A career,
And a kick ass computer.

So far I have 5/7, the University is helping me get the other two I need.


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Re: weed [message #285641 is a reply to message #272284] Sat, 22 September 2007 05:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay, I'd agree with your argument if you weren't being a hypocrite.

You assumed that he needs weed for his life not to suck. How is that ANY different from his "assumption"?


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Re: weed [message #285655 is a reply to message #272284] Sat, 22 September 2007 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"xptek"

I'm generally stoned from the moment I wake up 'til the moment I go to sleep


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Re: weed [message #285800 is a reply to message #285655] Sat, 22 September 2007 21:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jecht wrote on Sat, 22 September 2007 10:02

"xptek"

I'm generally stoned from the moment I wake up 'til the moment I go to sleep


Yes, but did he say, "my life sucks, so I'm generally stoned from the moment I wake up 'til the moment I go to sleep"? No. That's my point.


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Re: weed [message #285807 is a reply to message #272284] Sat, 22 September 2007 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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People who smoke that much generally use it as a crutch.

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Re: weed [message #285822 is a reply to message #285807] Sun, 23 September 2007 03:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DarkDemin wrote on Sun, 23 September 2007 00:18

People who smoke that much generally use it as a crutch.


You don't seem to know too much about the drug and its effects, so you're assumption is fairly baseless.

People who smoke it that much generally use it because they love having an altered perception. That may not necessarily be the healthiest way of living life but it doesn't mean it's a crutch. If anything problems can become much more meaningful or apparent to you (ie: freaking out).

A crutch would be using alcohol to forget about your problems. One example would be drinking yourself into a delirious state (a stupor). The same goes for heroin, but that isn't necessarily a crutch for very long as it becomes a desperate need due to the inability to function without it.


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Re: weed [message #286045 is a reply to message #272284] Mon, 24 September 2007 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Name some successful business people (I mean people who actually contribute something to society...in other words, not rappers) who smoke weed regularly. For the most part, potheads are pumping my gas, not driving nice cars and making a decent living.
Re: weed [message #286063 is a reply to message #286045] Mon, 24 September 2007 04:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blazer wrote on Mon, 24 September 2007 08:42

Name some successful business people (I mean people who actually contribute something to society...in other words, not rappers) who smoke weed regularly. For the most part, potheads are pumping my gas, not driving nice cars and making a decent living.


You'd be surprised just how many people use drugs in general in high positions (no pun intended). The more money you have the more money you have to spend on drugs. Most people can strike a balance. It's just the obvious "pot heads" that are in low positions because they couldn't strike that balance unlike others.

You'd be surprised how many people use cocaine in very high positions of authority, the main reason for that is they have the money to throw away on it. As they say a rich mans drug.

also: A point I forgot to bring up in my previous post. Those who try to justify their drug use are generally the ones with problems. If you use drugs and strictly use it to get 'fucked up' you're far more likely to achieve that balance as opposed to using it because you're "stressed." Everything in moderation.


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Re: weed [message #286074 is a reply to message #272284] Mon, 24 September 2007 05:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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weeed... is very addictive me being 16 got on it for about a yr . now im on it for weekends only !!!


weeed changes mental health.. if you dont you were already mental in the head. after a yr of smoking it i get paranoid a lil but its slowy goin

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Re: weed [message #286296 is a reply to message #272284] Tue, 25 September 2007 02:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I knew a guy once who actually said, "I smoke weed at least 6 times a day, and I'm not addicted to it". Last I heard he was making his 3rd trip to jail for possession. What a great way to live eh?
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Blazer wrote on Tue, 25 September 2007 10:02

I knew a guy once who actually said, "I smoke weed at least 6 times a day, and I'm not addicted to it". Last I heard he was making his 3rd trip to jail for possession. What a great way to live eh?


Some people who smoke weed are the arseholes of soceity - sad but true- having said that I don't agree or disagree with smoking weed.

I think the whole "it's their body it's their choice" thing is the best way to look at it. At the age of 13 I started smoking pot....I know you can call me whatever you want but this does have a point. I quit smoking pot at 19 because I was going through a very very bad patch of depression and I could not get through a day without crying my eyes out 5 times for no good reason whatsoever. I do not believe that pot had anything to do with this mood, (but I'm not an expert). My depression was trigged by a few skeletons from my closet that was topped by the death of a dear friend, I was a heavy smoker, a heavy drinker and an occasion pot fiend, but I always kept my job, I always did weed at a time where it was recreational not work or family and I know that both my parents have smoked pot before and my auntie and uncle also smoke it (STILL) They all have upstanding jobs in the British society and are all on at least £26,000 a year ($52,000) so I think there are always arguements for and against. I know pot heads who are in jail and I know pot heads who contribute to our society.

The agrument for making pot legal (in the UK at least) Is that it would reduce petty crime, it would reduce prostitution, it would reduce smuggling, the pot that would be legalised would no doubt be controlled and subsequently taxed by the British Government (which would mute all the fucking people who bitch about taxes because smokers in the main part contribute to British taxes a shit load) and besides: smoking in doors in public areas, areas of work (but not prisons) and even smoking in company cars is now illegal so it wouldn't affect much of the non-weed (or cigerette) smoking community here.


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Re: weed [message #286309 is a reply to message #286074] Tue, 25 September 2007 05:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SoQReaL wrote on Mon, 24 September 2007 07:13

weeed... is very addictive me being 16 got on it for about a yr . now im on it for weekends only !!!


weeed changes mental health.. if you dont you were already mental in the head. after a yr of smoking it i get paranoid a lil but its slowy goin


You are a gaping vagina if you were 'addicted' to weed or are getting paranoid. That's a sign you shouldn't be doing substances full stop. Grow some balls.

And Blazer that doesn't mean he was addicted. Nor does it make him a slime bag for being being in jail or anything, his crime was for possessing weed which the legality of is being discussed in this thread. That's why a lot of people want it legalized.


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Hogosphere in Web2.0 wrote on Tue, 25 September 2007 08:28

And Blazer that doesn't mean he was addicted. Nor does it make him a slime bag for being being in jail or anything, his crime was for possessing weed which the legality of is being discussed in this thread. That's why a lot of people want it legalized.

That's pretty much how I was going to respond. Being jailed for possession just means he... possessed the substance. I could be jailed for having an open bottle of alcohol in my car, but be completely sober.


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Re: weed [message #286416 is a reply to message #272284] Tue, 25 September 2007 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Granted just being in posession of something isn't really a big deal...but I knew this guy. He would get high and do crazy shit, like set his dog on fire, and blame it on "because I was so high man". Once he got into my car, pushed my cigarette lighter in, then when it popped out, he took it and shoved it onto the end of my turn signal lever, melting it all over the place. Why did he do that? "Sorry dude I was high". And while he was driving on the road high (as he often did), he would do crazy shit like swerve towards people and stuff to scare them. I'm quite sure that all the times he was busted for posession on the road, he was also high so I sure dont feel sorry for him.

Note: I realize that not all people are nutballs like this, and they do it "recreationally", but to be honest I don't agree with smoking at all. Smoking killed my mother so I am biased, and always will be. For good reason I think though, as most smokers themselves agree its a dirty unhealthy habit that they would quit in an instant if they "could".
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Blazer wrote on Tue, 25 September 2007 18:43

Granted just being in posession of something isn't really a big deal...but I knew this guy. He would get high and do crazy shit, like set his dog on fire, and blame it on "because I was so high man". Once he got into my car, pushed my cigarette lighter in, then when it popped out, he took it and shoved it onto the end of my turn signal lever, melting it all over the place. Why did he do that? "Sorry dude I was high". And while he was driving on the road high (as he often did), he would do crazy shit like swerve towards people and stuff to scare them. I'm quite sure that all the times he was busted for posession on the road, he was also high so I sure dont feel sorry for him.

Note: I realize that not all people are nutballs like this, and they do it "recreationally", but to be honest I don't agree with smoking at all. Smoking killed my mother so I am biased, and always will be. For good reason I think though, as most smokers themselves agree its a dirty unhealthy habit that they would quit in an instant if they "could".

it killed a few of my relatives (cigarettes that is) and I know its a dirty unhealthy habit.
and yet, I really don't care.
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Blazer wrote on Tue, 25 September 2007 23:43

Granted just being in posession of something isn't really a big deal...but I knew this guy. He would get high and do crazy shit, like set his dog on fire, and blame it on "because I was so high man". Once he got into my car, pushed my cigarette lighter in, then when it popped out, he took it and shoved it onto the end of my turn signal lever, melting it all over the place. Why did he do that? "Sorry dude I was high". And while he was driving on the road high (as he often did), he would do crazy shit like swerve towards people and stuff to scare them. I'm quite sure that all the times he was busted for posession on the road, he was also high so I sure dont feel sorry for him.

Note: I realize that not all people are nutballs like this, and they do it "recreationally", but to be honest I don't agree with smoking at all. Smoking killed my mother so I am biased, and always will be. For good reason I think though, as most smokers themselves agree its a dirty unhealthy habit that they would quit in an instant if they "could".


That guy may have been a bit fucked in the head to begin with. But I can understand your viewpoint and can empathize a little.

I have a lot of friends who study hard, have good certifications (cisco certs etc) and have a very good understanding of their work but do partake in the smokage. It's just you wont hear about them so much, I suppose you could say they weren't assholes to begin with and can keep it discrete as well as balanced.

Then you get the people who were always jerks or assed about and became wasters, trouble makers and poor contributors to society in general. But a lot of their behavior will be the same without pot in the equation (or with other drugs for example).

Also: You don't have to smoke it, it can be turned into a vapor free of tar/'bad things' or alternatively you can ingest it orally Big Grin.

Blazer I'm sure you can understand though that with balance and a bit of intelligence it is almost completely harmless and unimpacting on someones life.


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Would anyone become president who smokes weed? Would you meet a girls parents with a blunt in your mouth? Would you smoke a joint in a restuarant? Would you hit a bong in an elevator?

If it's so harmless...why not?
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Blazer wrote on Tue, 25 September 2007 18:49

Would anyone become president who smokes weed? Would you meet a girls parents with a blunt in your mouth? Would you smoke a joint in a restuarant? Would you hit a bong in an elevator?

If it's so harmless...why not?


That's more the stigma attached to it than it's health implications. Obviously it's very rude to do those things mentioned above, and to be honest I'm for banning smoking in public places etc simply because I hate smoke when I eat etc. It's more something you do discreetly as I said before, in private or with friends.

And I George Bush has smoked pot (and also done cocaine Surprised). If he kept his use private he could probably still operate as the president. Of course he wouldn't much of a chance to do it recreationally but assuming he maybe had a joint or two within the space of say two days at a time there shouldn't be anything hindering his work as the president as well as being unnoticeable by the media.


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LOL...so you'd be okay with someone high with their finger on the button?
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Blazer wrote on Tue, 25 September 2007 19:49

Would anyone become president who drinks beer? Would you meet a girls parents with an open beer in hand? Would you beer bong in a restuarant? Would you crack a beer in an elevator?

If it's so harmless...why not?

You wouldn't take a shit in your pants while at a restaurant. You shouldn't put on pants while driving. You shouldn't pee in a pool. You shouldn't sleep while in a meeting.

That's poor logic, really. Just because something's "harmless" doesn't mean that there aren't more appropriate times to partake in said activities.


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I knew a guy who did pot and was pretty much high all day and he ended up killing a pizza delivery driver and is now spending many, many years in jail for 2nd degree murder. It's not a coincidence that the vast majority of people who abuse substances end up being the bottom-feeders of society and the single moms who raise more of them.

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