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| Westwood Exsposed is Coming Back. [message #28569] |
Wed, 02 July 2003 16:33   |
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We don't give a rats ass. There can't be a WSE when there is no longer a WS. Yes there are clickbots and various sniper cheats, we've all heard them. Ty is just being pissy and wants to get back by ruining the game for everyone...too bad we allready know what he is going to "expose" and could care less.
Even if a 100% working aimbot was created (such as the way the death adder bot works in Counterstrike), I personally wouldn't care. Why?
1. It takes some degree of setup to use it (only truly determined losers/cheaters will even bother). Of course some ass like Ty could always do the work of reskinning the infantry etc and release it as a nice dumbed down zipfile.
2. Renegade isn't about sniping. Sure snipers have their place in Renegade, but how many times have you seen someone exclaim "Oh thank goodness sniped the whole time and won the game for us!". I'll tell ya...none. Because snipers aren't team players and they don't win the game for you. The exception is the rare snipers who will offer to cover a placed beacon and snipe the disarmers. 99% of snipers only care about their kill count, and just keep staring into their scope while their buildings get destroyed.
It certainly would be annoying for there to be a 100% working aimbot, and some person killed everyone that came within sight of him. But guess what, that's not going to stop the APC full of 4 engies going to your base. Games of Renegade are won by base damage/destruction, not personal kill count.
It goes without saying that an easy to install 100% working aimbot would spell the end of "sniper servers", but as for Renegade itself, I don't see it being affected much.
Now people like Ty will pretend they aren't releasing something like this for the real reason they are (to just cause mayhem and laugh at everyones misfortune), and say something like they are releasing it to "force" something like PunkBuster to be created, or to dispel doubt that it exists. Sadly Renegade is not as flexible as CS, and making "PunkBuster" server mods is not readily possible, so if and when this happens, Im sure more people will start using BR and having active moderators to ban people who are obviously cheating.
The whole "WSE is coming back" thing is laughable. Bring it on pussies.
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| Westwood Exsposed is Coming Back. [message #28611] |
Thu, 03 July 2003 00:43 |
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he is making it Ea exposed or something along the lines of that.
Ty is being stupid, but i just thought that i would come and tell you, he is releasing all of the skins for the aimbot as well.
So i wanted to tell you, no problem with that, is there?
Here is the whole post for you to read.
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WU-CEO(A.K.A Abarrat Posted:
Hi Boys & Girls..
I have decided to bring WSE back to the light , in order to once again Expose elements within the CNC community.
I raised some issues about aimbots over @ a well known Renegade server called thepits , in return they banned me & made an entire section on me , its a bit of a laught but the joke will be on there server when WSE is back up , with information about Aimbots.
Here is the section they have made about me if anyone is intrested in having a laught.. http://renegade.the-pitts.net/index.php?s=905317114d8ce5b4a6ee301f8249ce74&act=SF&f=24
If people recall the WSE history , it was over trainers & Cheats i told WW would ruin the game , With that said ive been playing rene in my spare time for the past month , i actually won thepits ladder competition.
I Was upset @ the cheats i seen used , like a MOD that takes out the GREEN TINT from your sniper scope & The Black shade , combine this with a Skin package & the clickbot & U have 1 version of a usable aimbot.
Any sniper not using the skin is at a dissadvantage , I basicly said to them after winning the month that i was sick of it & i was going to release the infromation , I had already pled with the owner of the server to put in place some policy for the usage of the sniper scope MOD but he said it wasnt enforcable
instead he has banned me & made that section in an attempt to make me upset , its only done the complete oposite , im now motivated & WSE is going to return.
WW learnt the hard Way & i guess its time to make another example , WSE really never got to Rene , & I appoligise for this to all our hardcore fans out there , Rene will be fully coverd this time in the wse articles.
The orignal post that got me banned & was the reason for making the section on me is located here..
http://renegade.the-pitts.net/index.php?s=905317114d8ce5b4a6ee301f8249ce74&act=ST&f=2&t=3560&st=30
Abarrat Posted: Jun 30 2003, 07:29 PM
Stay tuned..
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aspirinz Posted:
Uh oh....Once Ty has his mind to set to do something he does it...It'll be good to see WSE back up, will this be a permanent thing or will you complete your task and disband?
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Donutman Posted:
lol, you gotta love the lame tards that won't believe it even though you can download an aimbot for renegade anywhere
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NO is the answer.
There is no Aimbot for Renegade. The only evidence we have a faked screenies and whispers of rumors on forums.
There would be some snippet, some non-working download link SOMEWHERE on the internet that has an aimbot at the other end.
There isn't.
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Danger Posted:
Alot of them live in a fantasy land, its as simple as that.
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PsY Posted:
Its utter bullshit, all the lies they tell over there. Especially snipegod1, who always has these AMAZINGLY LUCKY SHOTS on everyone, which is almost impossible! He uses the skin mod for the scope, weve seen a screenie he posted. He also keeps saying "I use the alpha 1.02 aimbot with the extra bullshit extension blablabla" its really making me think hes covering up.
This deserves a sticky. Or an announcment. Ty Ill try to catch you on msn.
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Eternal2u Posted:
thought you were dead...oh wellz...gl i think..
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Ustilts Posted:
Very intresting, how long is it that you are going to have it up this time? 1 year? For that is how long WW will last, its declineing popularity all the time...
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Eternal2u Posted:
westwoodexposed.com and westwoodexposed.net are owned by peter
westwood-exposed.com and westwoodexposed.co.uk are owned by EA
so what url are you going to use....just a ?
maybe Westwood Underworld?
and i think you meant EA right ust..
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WU-CEO Posted:
WSE once relaunched will be back up until the destruction of the WWW or the End of the World , or when I die , which ever one comes 1st.
I should never have given up WSE , but Lurky / Mark talked me into giving WSE to WW/EA , however I signed no contracts , EA doesnt really talk to me much about WU so as i see it ,its really none of there business ,and i dont care if my Abarrat nick is banned from WOL.
msgtpain thinks im some little kid , even thou im older then some of the idiots posting giving me sht , snipegod1 is cheating , i mean hell i found the SS of a guys modifyed Skins that lead me to belive that cheating was going on , at the pits..
Here it is , i found this @ thepits b4 i even mention aimbots..
Then i noticed Snipergod1 Admiting to using a MOD that takes out the GREEN TINT & The Black shade! Its not Very hard to do the Math..
GREEN TINT REMOVAL MOD X Skin Package X Colour Clickbot = snipergod1
Pain says it cant even be enforced , lol Well when they allow assholes to post the SS as i have show , then clearly It wont be Enforced when the Administration is supporting it.
IN a way Thepits is Acting Just like WW did when i started WSS.
I gave too much control to other people when i had WSE up , things will be a little diffrent this time. Alot of the Old guys like Lurky , Weap0nman , England , have shown there true colours to me so my level of awarness to people like these guys is Hi.
Lurky only wanted WSE to close so he could get his nickname back , in the old days if anyone gave me shit on a forum lurky was the 1st guy to defend me , but since he has been @ thepits he watches people give me sht , i cant really speak up & When i do speak up on a subject i am banned.
I Won there pissy tornment & Still didnt get any respect.
WHY ? Because i was the Leader of WSE?
Well if thats how they want to play , lets bring back WSE & See how there aimbot Azz are lol
And Weaponman , I noticed u giving me a little shit , Was very suprized!
Then again you kiss Pains ass so much u prob do know whats up his ass & whats not lol.
Ive been talking to Hileman again @ ANF , both guys will be helping with WSE , aswell as Revolt coding the OGC Aimbot DLL ,with myself assisting.
I Really wish to do an article on this other aimbot , IF Reece will give me some site space i will do an article similar to the WSE Articles i used to do.
One thing thepits forgets , WSE was the biggest group WW had ever seen , the most powerfull group WW had come up against , i have recieved letters where WW state that the Group WSE has cost them thousands of dollars in Upgrades etc due to the exploits we used on there servers.
WSE never got to Renegade , When i go to Rene & play for a month thats when WSE has got to Renegade , A few WSE staff played there but none of them really looked for cheats , besides PSY.
Im not sure if im going to change the name , im still considering it , reason i wish to bring WSE back is because WSE is well known , people desire WSE work again , it was a funny site , good information database and generally a good site to view. Entertainment wise.
If u search google for WSE you can still find articles about the group.
And dont confuse Powerfull with hackers lol WSE Were not and are not hackers , simply because we posted Relays & Trainers doesnt make us hackers like some of these idiot websites claim.
Ive learnt alot of lessons from the old WSE , so you can be sure that none of the old bs that used to go on will be going on this time , the key players of WSE is Myself & Revolt.
Staff list prob wont be public this time , still unsure.
Any of the guys i know intrested in being on the staff list let me know.
I Decided to start the skin package myself , seems like no one has made one publicly for this aimbot , so i did a mobius for a test , lol it turned out quite well
-Ty
**File Here**, Im not posting the link.
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aspirinz Posted:
I'll talk to Reece about space, how much space ya lookin for? couple of megs?
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Posted: Jul Tue, 2003 6:20 pm Post subject: WSE Returns..
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Hi Boys & Girls..
I have decided to bring WSE back to the light , in order to once again Expose elements within the CNC community.
I raised some issues about aimbots over @ a well known Renegade server called thepits , in return they banned me & made an entire section on me , its a bit of a laught but the joke will be on there server when WSE is back up , with information about Aimbots.
Here is the section they have made about me if anyone is intrested in having a laught.. http://renegade.the-pitts.net/index.php?s=905317114d8ce5b4a6ee301f8249ce74&act=SF&f=24
If people recall the WSE history , it was over trainers & Cheats i told WW would ruin the game , With that said ive been playing rene in my spare time for the past month , i actually won thepits ladder competition.
I Was upset @ the cheats i seen used , like a MOD that takes out the GREEN TINT from your sniper scope & The Black shade , combine this with a Skin package & the clickbot & U have 1 version of a usable aimbot.
Any sniper not using the skin is at a dissadvantage , I basicly said to them after winning the month that i was sick of it & i was going to release the infromation , I had already pled with the owner of the server to put in place some policy for the usage of the sniper scope MOD but he said it wasnt enforcable
instead he has banned me & made that section in an attempt to make me upset , its only done the complete oposite , im now motivated & WSE is going to return.
WW learnt the hard Way & i guess its time to make another example , WSE really never got to Rene , & I appoligise for this to all our hardcore fans out there , Rene will be fully coverd this time in the wse articles.
The orignal post that got me banned & was the reason for making the section on me is located here..
http://renegade.the-pitts.net/index.php?s=905317114d8ce5b4a6ee301f8249ce74&act=ST&f=2&t=3560&st=30
Abarrat Posted: Jun 30 2003, 07:29 PM
Stay tuned..
-Ty
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Uh oh....Once Ty has his mind to set to do something he does it...It'll be good to see WSE back up, will this be a permanent thing or will you complete your task and disband?
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lol, you gotta love the lame tards that won't believe it even though you can download an aimbot for renegade anywhere
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NO is the answer.
There is no Aimbot for Renegade. The only evidence we have a faked screenies and whispers of rumors on forums.
There would be some snippet, some non-working download link SOMEWHERE on the internet that has an aimbot at the other end.
There isn't.
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Alot of them live in a fantasy land, its as simple as that.
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Its utter bullshit, all the lies they tell over there. Especially snipegod1, who always has these AMAZINGLY LUCKY SHOTS on everyone, which is almost impossible! He uses the skin mod for the scope, weve seen a screenie he posted. He also keeps saying "I use the alpha 1.02 aimbot with the extra bullshit extension blablabla" its really making me think hes covering up.
This deserves a sticky. Or an announcment. Ty Ill try to catch you on msn.
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Good on ya Ty, Mgstpain or watever it is is a idiot sometimes, so go for it dude.
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thought you were dead...oh wellz...gl i think..
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Very intresting, how long is it that you are going to have it up this time? 1 year? For that is how long WW will last, its declineing popularity all the time...
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westwoodexposed.com and westwoodexposed.net are owned by peter
westwood-exposed.com and westwoodexposed.co.uk are owned by EA
so what url are you going to use....just a ?
maybe Westwood Underworld?
and i think you meant EA right ust...
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its about time something interesting happened around here
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WSE once relaunched will be back up until the destruction of the WWW or the End of the World , or when I die , which ever one comes 1st.
I should never have given up WSE , but Lurky / Mark talked me into giving WSE to WW/EA , however I signed no contracts , EA doesnt really talk to me much about WU so as i see it ,its really none of there business ,and i dont care if my Abarrat nick is banned from WOL.
msgtpain thinks im some little kid , even thou im older then some of the idiots posting giving me sht , snipegod1 is cheating , i mean hell i found the SS of a guys modifyed Skins that lead me to belive that cheating was going on , at the pits..
Here it is , i found this @ thepits b4 i even mention aimbots..
Then i noticed Snipergod1 Admiting to using a MOD that takes out the GREEN TINT & The Black shade! Its not Very hard to do the Math..
GREEN TINT REMOVAL MOD X Skin Package X Colour Clickbot = snipergod1
Pain says it cant even be enforced , lol Well when they allow assholes to post the SS as i have show , then clearly It wont be Enforced when the Administration is supporting it.
IN a way Thepits is Acting Just like WW did when i started WSS.
I gave too much control to other people when i had WSE up , things will be a little diffrent this time. Alot of the Old guys like Lurky , Weap0nman , England , have shown there true colours to me so my level of awarness to people like these guys is Hi.
Lurky only wanted WSE to close so he could get his nickname back , in the old days if anyone gave me shit on a forum lurky was the 1st guy to defend me , but since he has been @ thepits he watches people give me sht , i cant really speak up & When i do speak up on a subject i am banned.
I Won there pissy tornment & Still didnt get any respect.
WHY ? Because i was the Leader of WSE?
Well if thats how they want to play , lets bring back WSE & See how there aimbot Azz are lol
And Weaponman , I noticed u giving me a little shit , Was very suprized!
Then again you kiss Pains ass so much u prob do know whats up his ass & whats not lol.
Ive been talking to Hileman again @ ANF , both guys will be helping with WSE , aswell as Revolt coding the OGC Aimbot DLL ,with myself assisting.
I Really wish to do an article on this other aimbot , IF Reece will give me some site space i will do an article similar to the WSE Articles i used to do.
One thing thepits forgets , WSE was the biggest group WW had ever seen , the most powerfull group WW had come up against , i have recieved letters where WW state that the Group WSE has cost them thousands of dollars in Upgrades etc due to the exploits we used on there servers.
WSE never got to Renegade , When i go to Rene & play for a month thats when WSE has got to Renegade , A few WSE staff played there but none of them really looked for cheats , besides PSY.
Im not sure if im going to change the name , im still considering it , reason i wish to bring WSE back is because WSE is well known , people desire WSE work again , it was a funny site , good information database and generally a good site to view. Entertainment wise.
If u search google for WSE you can still find articles about the group.
And dont confuse Powerfull with hackers lol WSE Were not and are not hackers , simply because we posted Relays & Trainers doesnt make us hackers like some of these idiot websites claim.
Ive learnt alot of lessons from the old WSE , so you can be sure that none of the old bs that used to go on will be going on this time , the key players of WSE is Myself & Revolt.
Staff list prob wont be public this time , still unsure.
Any of the guys i know intrested in being on the staff list let me know.
I Decided to start the skin package myself , seems like no one has made one publicly for this aimbot , so i did a mobius for a test , lol it turned out quite well
-Ty
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Dam , sorry im unsure how to post pics here lol , bear with me for a sec..
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Sorry guys i didnt know how to remove those bloody attachments
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I'll talk to Reece about space, how much space ya lookin for? couple of megs?
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WU-CEO Posted:
I havent decided on the URL yet , i will possibly purchase the Domain this week after i make some decisions.
I Will never get the domains back from EA , they are also protecting the domains from Peter ,as he wants them aswell. ( Quite sad really when i invented WSE )
It will be a WSE domain , u guys can try guess one up lol , cause thats what im going to be doing this week , it took time to think of the name WSE < it was changed from WSS to WSE after 1 yr contemplating about weather to change the name from Westwood Studios Scum , to Westwood Studios Exposed.
Maby WSE will be WSEA , Westwood Studios Exposed Again.
Or WSEAE Westwood Studios Electronic Arts Exposed , or just EAE Electronic Arts Exposed.
I think of the Abrevation b4 i go looking for the domain.
Comments & Suggestions Encouraged by all ( Not you pits asswipes but u wont last long in here anywayz , :)looks @ Reece  )
Lawless nods head hehehe
Donutman sits back And laughts his ass off 
-Ty
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WU-CEO Posted:
Ya i only need a couple of megs to do an article , i would like to do the Renegade Colour Aimbot Article , i do very good articles , and spend alot of time on little touchy things , just ask Reece or if u can rember WSE pages , the TMK Exposed etc i did all of them.
14mb is the Whole site without any extra content , so ill wait for the server b4 posting that up , i would like to do an article on the aimbot for rene , And u guys host it , I have no domain link as yet so i wont be putting any links on it , just charachter credits for the work. IE Author Abarrat
And perhaps a mention of the Return of WSE.
1 page hmm , 1mb would be heaps for 1 page.
If u guys can get me an account with 1mb , just PM me the FTP site adress , username & password & i will get to work today, as you can see ive already started the Skin package that sniper cheats are already using , ive got the colour aimbot and the MOD that takes out the green tint!
Im all Rdy to Go commanders lol
Gear me up! hehe
-Ty
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And Weaponman , I noticed u giving me a little shit , Was very suprized!
Then again you kiss Pains ass so much u prob do know whats up his ass & whats not lol.
C'mon now weapon man was damn loyal..no need blasting him and going back and forth like others have....
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EAE Electronic Arts Exposed.
My 2 cents...hell yea..lol go with EAE since there branches are all but non-existent
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Law-Less Posted:
EAE..hmm ya could either go with the anti EA side off things seeings WW doesnt exist anymore, and EA do literaly nothing about cheat, (westwood did some things they were just jokes)
Or you could just go with a sort of "Westwood is gone, told ya so "sort of thing going over the history, with a profile page on every main fag involved with it, etc allwell we'll see I guess.
Oh and Ty I'll have a talk to ya on MSN about hosting arangements, I'm sure we can work something out.
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hey ty if u need help with anything like website stuff ill help i dont know much bout thw website making but i have abit bout making them or if u want someone to do anything else ill help ya if i can
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WU-CEO Posted:
thx all , i will keep u guys updated.
The post has been removed , they have unbanned me , im waiting for an email from the site owner , im thinking there not so bad after all maby they want help with this skin modifications problem ?
EAE will prob be the one , anyone goes out & buys it i will make sure u pay the price , lol so dont do anything stupid now boys & girls lol
This post will die until i get WSE back up , if i do get it back up.
WU is still #1 priority b4 WSE.
-Ty
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I got a link in a email from one of my m8's, it is a good site to get the games i play no-cd cracks the day the patches come out, but the bad thing is they have hacks that n00bs get and cheat their heads off 
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PiMuRho
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What a tosser.
Is he really that braindead? There's no-one left to do any extra development for Renegade, so who is going to create this PB-style server?
He's just a little boy that threw his toys out of the pram. Wah.
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| Westwood Exsposed is Coming Back. [message #28638] |
Thu, 03 July 2003 10:37 |
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SS217
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I know about the green black thing, but isn't there anyway to defend against it? Maybe Dante or someone could code something for us to defend against it.
By the way- WSE coming back isn't going to be good for us, there are quite a few newbs out there that would want to catch up with the better players. Sure Blazer is right it's only a kill/death count, but Hell, it's not fair, and I'll do everything I can to stop it. And I think I speak for everyone on that.
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| Westwood Exsposed is Coming Back. [message #28705] |
Thu, 03 July 2003 16:46 |
Lurker
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he just pissed cos I don't help him or defend him against Crimson etc he is just pissed that I have changed
it shows what a child Ty is, he needs to act his own age
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The Great One of Renegade
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| Westwood Exsposed is Coming Back. [message #28710] |
Thu, 03 July 2003 17:06 |
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Crimson
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If someone finds a way to prevent the sniper scope modification, I'm sure plenty of us will be glad to install whatever needs to be installed server-side. However, the benefit of this mod isn't that great so it's hard to tell when it's being used.
Ty ranted and raved about snipegod1 but he's not THAT great (no offense)... if he had a headshot clickbot he wouldn't be using Havoc instead of Deadeye, first of all, and second of all once I sniped where he sniped on the Pits and got over twice as many kills as he did. And I'm not that great a sniper. Explain that.
I'm the bawss.
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| Westwood Exsposed is Coming Back. [message #28723] |
Thu, 03 July 2003 18:27 |
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warranto
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Location: Alberta, Canada
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I posted this in the pits forum during that brief stint that guests were allowed to post without registering, but since that topic is gone, I'll post it here.
It was mentioned that the sniper scope mods were a replacement of a sertain file, or the creation of a new one. So my suggestion is this. If sniper scope mods are to be disallowed to prevent the clickbot from being used, would it be able to use a program to check for that file, or if it's a real file, check the size of the file? If it comes down to the second option, I don't think that with the changes done to the scope view that it would be the same size down to the byte. However, (pointing out the obvious here) the original file, since it's part of the original programing would be the same size as everyone else.
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