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| Re: Status: .mix -> .lvl converter [message #283308 is a reply to message #283206] |
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Oblivion165
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When I started with renegade I was using a 12gb hard drive in a 1.0ghz computer with 256k of ram. The thing didn't even have a cd burner, so needless to say there was no backuping done in those days. Who knows where these things go, however I do know that there are a few maps of mine that I have wanted to update but the re-contruction would be devastating.
My Halloween map for instance, Ive wanted to update that but all the headstones are hand placed tiles. Murder-a-foot for anyone who even asks me to do that again.
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| Re: Status: .mix -> .lvl converter [message #283316 is a reply to message #283238] |
Sun, 09 September 2007 13:13 |
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| Oblivion165 wrote on Sun, 09 September 2007 04:15 |
IMO this is one of the two last things we need for renegade. The other is auto map download but this is for sure needed.
@Protecting the files: Would be too easy with hex editors to change any kind of protection.
For instance convert M01.mix then save it with the encryption method, use a binary compare tool and you will know exactly what you need to remove the blocker.
@SK: Worried about your vast amount of maps? This tool needs to be made. Just converting the skirmish map back to source would give us tons of info on bots that we haven't discovered in the years we've been here.
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Well it's funny, Because if it DID have protection, You just told people how to bypass it. *sigh*
See how that works?
EDIT: | DeathLink6.0 wrote on Sun, 09 September 2007 11:33 |
Map-Stealing looooooooool sry but lol, lol and lol again.
As Yrr said "it will always be YOUR map". We are a small community and we notice quickly when somebody "steals" a map. The only condition for that process is that you show RenCom your map (here in this forums, on CCR-Fanpages and so on). MOST people will know that you are the true mapper and that is enought I think.
You can also add a plane with your name in gmax/max to the terrain. With that you can show people very quickly that you are the one.
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OH MY GOD, Thank you, Thank you so much, SMALL COMMUNITY!! Small community = catching map-stealing tards is super easy.
Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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| Re: Status: .mix -> .lvl converter [message #283317 is a reply to message #283309] |
Sun, 09 September 2007 13:17 |
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| Jerad Gray wrote on Sun, 09 September 2007 20:20 |
| PaRaDoX wrote on Sun, 09 September 2007 13:12 |
..why not just add your name into the mesh somewhere? It's not hard... I do it with all my maps. There is my nick name in the mesh in at least 50 places, and it's modeled in.
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I mainly just don't want people screwing with my work, especially if it has my name on it.
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why? Jonwil's scripts.dll, LuaPlugin, SSGM, SSCTF all are open source and people screw with them. Does Jonwil care? does Whitedragon care? i certainly don't.
If you're worried about someone stealing your maps, put a water mark somewhere. Even then, everyone will tell straight away and that person would be banished from this community.
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| Re: Status: .mix -> .lvl converter [message #283330 is a reply to message #283317] |
Sun, 09 September 2007 14:51 |
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| RoShamBo wrote on Sun, 09 September 2007 14:17 |
| Jerad Gray wrote on Sun, 09 September 2007 20:20 |
| PaRaDoX wrote on Sun, 09 September 2007 13:12 |
..why not just add your name into the mesh somewhere? It's not hard... I do it with all my maps. There is my nick name in the mesh in at least 50 places, and it's modeled in.
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I mainly just don't want people screwing with my work, especially if it has my name on it.
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why? Jonwil's scripts.dll, LuaPlugin, SSGM, SSCTF all are open source and people screw with them. Does Jonwil care? does Whitedragon care? i certainly don't.
If you're worried about someone stealing your maps, put a water mark somewhere. Even then, everyone will tell straight away and that person would be banished from this community.
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As I was reading this, I had mixed feelings about the issue of a ".mix -> .lvl Converter". But now that RoShamBo said this it really shed some light for me. I agree with RoShamBo on this one. He does have a point.
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| Re: Status: .mix -> .lvl converter [message #283333 is a reply to message #283206] |
Sun, 09 September 2007 15:44 |
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Hello together, here is the next status update!
Changes:- Lightscape object parameters will now be imported.
- Ambient light color will now be imported.
- Scripts will now be attached to objects.
- Maps should now have the correct terrain.
- Objects will now be renamed to make them easier to identify.
- Pathfind Generator objects will now be created in front of every carmaker (vehicle factories and refineres).
Things than can definitely not be done:- Manual Vis Points cannot be imported.
- Editor Only Objects (Pathfind Blockers) cannot be imported.
I uploaded the recreated editor packages for three maps so that you can test them by yourself: Skirmish00, C&C_City_Flying, C&C_Walls_Flying
Don't forget to compute lightning vertex solve and to generate pathfind sectors before using the map. You should add new vis points to improve the in-game frame rate.
Greetings,
Yrr
Yrr.
Creator of...
Resurrection, a Command & Conquer: Renegade Modification
LevelRedit, a .mix to .lvl converter
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| Re: Status: .mix -> .lvl converter [message #283337 is a reply to message #283335] |
Sun, 09 September 2007 16:30 |
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| Gen_Blacky wrote on Sun, 09 September 2007 19:16 |
Nias but we need some way some one cant claim that its there map.
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Keep some WIP screenshots and stop worrying about it.
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| Re: Status: .mix -> .lvl converter [message #283354 is a reply to message #283206] |
Sun, 09 September 2007 18:49 |
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This project sound awesome, can't wait for it to be finished.
And I say bah to protection. Because all we need is a readme. The original author just needs to put all the legal stuff in the readme
"All original content... blah blah blah... belongs to creator... blah blah... don't use unless you have been given permission... blah blah blah.."
If someone does steal it, you have that readme to back you up. Cause plagiarism ain't cool. :\
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| Re: Status: .mix -> .lvl converter [message #283507 is a reply to message #283206] |
Mon, 10 September 2007 17:34 |
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I dont know of any protection that would actually work.
Jonathan Wilson aka Jonwil
Creator and Lead Coder of the Custom scripts.dll
Renegade Engine Guru
Creator and Lead Coder of TT.DLL
Official member of Tiberian Technologies
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| Re: Status: .mix -> .lvl converter [message #283513 is a reply to message #283508] |
Mon, 10 September 2007 18:32 |
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| BlueThen wrote on Mon, 10 September 2007 19:53 |
| jonwil wrote on Mon, 10 September 2007 19:34 |
I dont know of any protection that would actually work.
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a file to include in your mix so if the program see's it...?
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Would just remove the file from the .mix file then.
Yrr, what I'll mean, the .lvl file is really for server side stuff, someone using that, can't add new terrain or anything, just objects, like guard towers and crap.
To be honest, am starting to look forward to this, if it works.
I'll was making an siege.lvl file for MP, but I'll somehow deleted my LE folder and lost it... So, I'll gotta start again, with this, I'll won't have too, the Airstrip vehicle maker, was being a fucking bitch to get right anyway, so.
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