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Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281056] Sat, 25 August 2007 18:25 Go to next message
AoBfrost is currently offline  AoBfrost
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Hey guys, recently I saw a video on youtube about ubuntu and XGL installed, it's like windows aero for vista, but 10x cooler and better looking, and alot of people say they get it to work fine with low system specs, I was wondering, has anyone used ubuntu linux on their PC's? Is it just as good or better than xp/vista? I really like it but I dont know if i want to relearn how the operating system works, because I am a XP/vista nerd and know just about everything in it, well linux is completly different so is it easy to learn to use and fix? I have a laptop with a 64mb video card and 512mb ram which i am thinking of using with ubuntu linux, oh and if you use ubuntu, can you tell me if Wine works with renegade? it's a windows emulator that lets you install windows PC games and run them on linux, I was wondering if renegade runs fine with it, thanks.

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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281057 is a reply to message #281056] Sat, 25 August 2007 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used Ubuntu for a while so I could bounce traffic off of it in SSH from my university connection (to get around their packet filters). It worked great for what I used it for, but I didn't try to play any games or install anything fancy on it. It was just sitting in a corner in my home basement until the PC died, not even a monitor/mouse/keyboard attached to it.

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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281062 is a reply to message #281056] Sat, 25 August 2007 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ummmm anyone else use it? I've read Wine reviews that renegade works fine, and others claim it has issues, I really dont know what to think unless I try it myself, I hate to install it but then have no use for it, then reinstall everything from scratch again, as it is annoying.

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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281063 is a reply to message #281056] Sat, 25 August 2007 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A good looking GUI with fancy effects is hardly a reason to switch over to a new OS. I would suggest dual-booting at first, and if you really, really like it, you can switch completely.

Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281076 is a reply to message #281056] Sat, 25 August 2007 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have fun relying on fans written drivers.

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cncnick13 wrote on Fri, 24 August 2007 23:39

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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281078 is a reply to message #281056] Sat, 25 August 2007 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use Ubuntu 7.04 for all my college work and i've yet to encounter any problems with software compatibility. The fancy GUI (Compiz Fusion) is really easy to install and will run in really old systems too. I'm not sure about WINE and Renegade, but I don't think there would be any problems because I've ran WoW, Fifa and some other games.

I really encourage you to try it and if you have any problems, there are a lot of wikis with clear instructions and people on the forums are really helpful, just be ready to type a lot of stuff into the terminal, though most of it you can just copy-paste.


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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281082 is a reply to message #281056] Sun, 26 August 2007 00:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AoBfrost wrote on Sun, 26 August 2007 13:25

Hey guys, recently I saw a video on youtube about ubuntu and XGL installed, it's like windows aero for vista, but 10x cooler and better looking, and alot of people say they get it to work fine with low system specs

I ran Beryl on my laptop with integrated graphics, it ran very well for what it did, but was a little sluggish.

AoBfrost wrote on Sun, 26 August 2007 13:25

I was wondering, has anyone used ubuntu linux on their PC's? Is it just as good or better than xp/vista?

It's different, which may be better depending on your needs.

AoBfrost wrote on Sun, 26 August 2007 13:25

I really like it but I dont know if i want to relearn how the operating system works, because I am a XP/vista nerd and know just about everything in it, well linux is completly different so is it easy to learn to use and fix?

No, it's not as simple to get into, however the community is a lot more supportive.

AoBfrost wrote on Sun, 26 August 2007 13:25

I have a laptop with a 64mb video card and 512mb ram which i am thinking of using with ubuntu linux, oh and if you use ubuntu, can you tell me if Wine works with renegade?

I haven't tried, but I believe people have had success with Cedega.

AoBfrost wrote on Sun, 26 August 2007 13:25

it's a windows emulator that lets you install windows PC games and run them on linux, I was wondering if renegade runs fine with it, thanks.

WINE stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator". It's a library, not a virtual environment.

I would say run ubuntu inside VMWare for a week and try to set it all up as you want. The first week is by far the most painful, after that it's much easier.


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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281089 is a reply to message #281056] Sun, 26 August 2007 01:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am going to install Ubuntu Linux, the moment I get another hard drive, cos Ubuntu has issues with my RAID.


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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281100 is a reply to message #281056] Sun, 26 August 2007 04:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I actually have Ubuntu setup on this machine in a dual boot setup with Vista, but I very rarely use it since it refuses to work with my wireless cards (apparently the ones I have are notoriously difficult to get working with Linux) and therefore to get it on the internet I have to get a 10 meter Ethernet cable out of the cupboard and trail it across the top of the stairs to the switch in the study to get it on the internet... and I don't like doing that as its a bloody trip hazard waiting to happen...

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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281101 is a reply to message #281056] Sun, 26 August 2007 04:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ndiswrapper? What chipset? And yes Ren/APB works just great on Wine, hope your card isn't ATI Wink.

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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281110 is a reply to message #281101] Sun, 26 August 2007 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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scguy318 wrote on Sun, 26 August 2007 06:53

ndiswrapper? What chipset? And yes Ren/APB works just great on Wine, hope your card isn't ATI Wink.


Doesn't Wine like ATi drivers? D:


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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281112 is a reply to message #281056] Sun, 26 August 2007 05:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Linux by defition doesn't like ATi cards.

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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281113 is a reply to message #281056] Sun, 26 August 2007 05:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, that is just plain suckage. :\

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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281114 is a reply to message #281113] Sun, 26 August 2007 05:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ATI does bad drivers for all platforms tbh.
Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281115 is a reply to message #281056] Sun, 26 August 2007 06:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Better than no drivers like nVidia Sarcasm

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jamiejrg wrote on Sun, 26 August 2007 01:38

Have fun relying on fans written drivers.

Jamie



Hey, as long as it's better than what Nvidia's been throwing at Vista users since its launch.


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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281133 is a reply to message #281056] Sun, 26 August 2007 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think I might try a dual boot method so I can test it out, I'll install renegade and cp2 and other crap so I can see if it works or not.

Another question is, do i need any anti virus for Linux? I've never really seen one designed for it, and I didnt know if AVG free edition would work properly and scan the right directories on ubuntu.


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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281136 is a reply to message #281056] Sun, 26 August 2007 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If hackers or w.e. wants to hack Linux...they have no luck since Linux is open source and changes SO god damn rapidly.

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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281138 is a reply to message #281133] Sun, 26 August 2007 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AoBfrost wrote on Sun, 26 August 2007 11:51

I think I might try a dual boot method so I can test it out, I'll install renegade and cp2 and other crap so I can see if it works or not.

Another question is, do i need any anti virus for Linux? I've never really seen one designed for it, and I didnt know if AVG free edition would work properly and scan the right directories on ubuntu.


It's Linux, Not Windows!

And no, You won't need any, At all.


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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281139 is a reply to message #281101] Sun, 26 August 2007 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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scguy318 wrote on Sun, 26 August 2007 12:53

ndiswrapper? What chipset?


Yeah, tried ndiswrapper several dozen times now Razz . The chipset is a Broadcom one, cant remember the exact chipset off the top of my head but its revision 1 of the Belkin 802.11g network cards.


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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281140 is a reply to message #281056] Sun, 26 August 2007 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is like me back then as a mac fanboy "ya my mac doesnt need anti virus, cause none exist" then a few years later "OMG MY MAC DIED FROM A VIRUS" so then i try out windows, then fell inlove, I didnt care about the viruses because I dunno, I guess all my games ran on windows, and ......i dont remember why i switched actually...

But anyways, I will be trying the dual boot method...as soon as i see how you do it, and as soon as my download at 350kbps off this slow utah server is done.


EDIT:

I'm thinking of just installing ubuntu to a external harddrive and setting my bios to load from that at start up, I dont want to mess up my current harddrive which has all my precious data (renegade lol) so I will just try and install it to my 160 gig external HDD, it's 7200rpm so it's a fast hard drive, and if i love it sooooo much, i might just install over the main hdd in my laptop.


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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281144 is a reply to message #281056] Sun, 26 August 2007 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renegade doesn't work very well under wine. A friend tried it and he had bad fps and sound problems.

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I've read 4 people now saying it works good under wine, so i will try it, other than that I got linux to boot from my USB hard drive and it runs at full speed and loads up faster than windows itself, only issue I have it....MY INERNETS DONT WORK! so without internet I cant use updates, I cant download cp2 for renegade, and I cant use the fancy GUI interface like everyone else does Sad

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Transfer the files manually over a flash drive :v

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Re: Thinking of switching to ubuntu linux [message #281156 is a reply to message #281056] Sun, 26 August 2007 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I used Ubuntu (thanks to Icedog for making me want to try it so bad), and I really liked it. It was a bit hard to setup for the first time since I had never used a Linux environment before hand, but after you get used to it there's nothing to it.

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It runs smoothly, and I used it to browse the web mostly, write school reports and whatnot.

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If you truly don't have a solid reason for switching to a Linux OS, then don't, and as other suggested, start out with a dual-boot configuration first, and see how you like it.

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Is it just as good or better than xp/vista?


Here we go again (nothing against you), but you can't really compare Linux to Windows. They both have their uses. Linux is widely used to run servers, and more network type applications, especially in a corporate environment. Windows is just all around easy to use, and most peoples cup of tea.


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