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WIP: Tiberium Sun Infantry [message #27928] |
Sun, 29 June 2003 20:25 |
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Captkurt
Messages: 488 Registered: February 2003
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SpartnII | thankx, but take it in private messages please =O)
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So you want to come and help with the BF42 maps. check out some of my progress in my sig. below.
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WIP: Tiberium Sun Infantry [message #27949] |
Sun, 29 June 2003 23:28 |
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boma57
Messages: 581 Registered: April 2003
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Well, it's nice to see that ACK's still inciting flames around here.
Honestly, do you have to contradict the company who made the game? If they use both in many different locations, then it is both. Just because they never defined the acronym, that doesn't make it nonexistant. Take a look outside your tunnel vision once and awhile.
Oh, and you're getting yourself into an argument over how much of a map someone owns? Once again, the updraft of your arrogance is tainted with the stench of hypocrisy.
Hmm. I haven't been filled in on the facts, so I'm going to state the facts without talking out of my ass, like you my friend. Observe how it's done. He either imported some models into Renegade and put on the finishing touches so they would work, or he just took the concept and made his own models. No matter what's going on with those BF1942 maps, it's relatively same situation as a certain map we all know, ACK. Maps being finished so they work in Reneade, and then people claiming ownership...Why yes, that is very familiar.
Now, unlike you - I'm sure - I shall show my qualities and morals by departing from this thread and not further pursuing your inevitable and antagonistic trademark comments, which we all love by the way. I have better things to do with my time than waste it pointing out the flaws of a person flawed to the point that he regards these quirks as talent. Just as well, I don't want to further ruin this thread which was started with some amazing modelling, if I may say so.
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WIP: Tiberium Sun Infantry [message #27954] |
Mon, 30 June 2003 01:36 |
PiMuRho
Messages: 494 Registered: February 2003
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Kay, whatever, I'm sure if PiMuRho comes in and says the same thing, you'll call him uninformed, too... After all, you know everything about United States copyright laws because your father's an attorney. :rolleyes:
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Hi.
ACK is correct about the copyright thing. You can make your mod similar to Battlefield 1942, but not use the name or any other part of the associated intellectual property. If your father is an attorney, he obviously doesn't specialise in IP law. This is basic stuff, and it accounts for a lot of mods getting shut down.
Now back to your regularly scheduled flaming.
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WIP: Tiberium Sun Infantry [message #27962] |
Mon, 30 June 2003 06:20 |
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Captkurt
Messages: 488 Registered: February 2003
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PiMuRho |
Hi.
ACK is correct about the copyright thing. You can make your mod similar to Battlefield 1942, but not use the name or any other part of the associated intellectual property. If your father is an attorney, he obviously doesn't specialise in IP law. This is basic stuff, and it accounts for a lot of mods getting shut down.
Now back to your regularly scheduled flaming.
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LIke you know it all. what ever. what I see here is another Ack want a be.
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WIP: Tiberium Sun Infantry [message #27963] |
Mon, 30 June 2003 06:32 |
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England
Messages: 618 Registered: February 2003 Location: High Wycombe, England
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Excellant models, TS is my fav cnc game
In the end it doesn't matter if you are who you say you are. You will still mean nothing to me.
When i have kids, everytime i drive past a fast food restaurant, im gonna punch my kid in the face, then they'll never wanna come..
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WIP: Tiberium Sun Infantry [message #27964] |
Mon, 30 June 2003 06:37 |
PiMuRho
Messages: 494 Registered: February 2003
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Captkurt |
LIke you know it all. what ever. what I see here is another Ack want a be.
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If you say so. The fact that I've been doing this for years obviously has no bearing on anything. Ever hear of the Aliens Quake mod? Duke it out in Quake? Generations mod for Quake3? I presume not, because they were all shut down because they were using someone else's intellectual property that they had no right or permission to use. It's as simple as that - if it's not something that you created (not copied, plagiarised, etc) then you shouldn't use it.
As for calling me an ACK wannabe, you couldn't be further from the truth - I've had run-ins with ACK on several occasions. However, if he's correct, I'll agree with him.
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WIP: Tiberium Sun Infantry [message #27967] |
Mon, 30 June 2003 07:01 |
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Captkurt
Messages: 488 Registered: February 2003
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Captkurt |
LIke you know it all. what ever. what I see here is another Ack want a be.
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If you say so. The fact that I've been doing this for years obviously has no bearing on anything. Ever hear of the Aliens Quake mod? Duke it out in Quake? Generations mod for Quake3? I presume not, because they were all shut down because they were using someone else's intellectual property that they had no right or permission to use. It's as simple as that - if it's not something that you created (not copied, plagiarised, etc) then you shouldn't use it.
As for calling me an ACK wannabe, you couldn't be further from the truth - I've had run-ins with ACK on several occasions. However, if he's correct, I'll agree with him.
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I'll say this. As an attorney, if you don't have anything better to do with your degree, than hang and chat here and get in these little Ack shits, then you must not have many clients, no clients= not a good attorney. And anybody can say what ever, I’m an astronaut.
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WIP: Tiberium Sun Infantry [message #27968] |
Mon, 30 June 2003 07:08 |
PiMuRho
Messages: 494 Registered: February 2003
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Captkurt |
I'll say this. As an attorney, if you don't have anything better to do with your degree, than hang and chat here and get in these little Ack shits, then you must not have many clients, no clients= not a good attorney. And anybody can say what ever, I’m an astronaut.
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Where did I say I'm an attorney? I'm a level designer/modeller. However, this isn't the first time I've run into this particular argument. I daresay it won't be the last either. I'll do my best to keep it simple for you:
Do you own the rights to any of the BF1942 intellectual property? (owning a copy of the game doesn't confer these rights on you)
Do you have permission from EA/DICE to use any of their intellectual propery or assets for your mod?
If you can answer "yes" to either of these questions, then go ahead and make your mod. If you answered "no" to either, then you'd better make sure that you're not using any BF1942 assets or properties.
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WIP: Tiberium Sun Infantry [message #27973] |
Mon, 30 June 2003 07:44 |
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Captkurt
Messages: 488 Registered: February 2003
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Captkurt |
I'll say this. As an attorney, if you don't have anything better to do with your degree, than hang and chat here and get in these little Ack shits, then you must not have many clients, no clients= not a good attorney. And anybody can say what ever, I’m an astronaut.
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Where did I say I'm an attorney? I'm a level designer/modeller. However, this isn't the first time I've run into this particular argument. I daresay it won't be the last either. I'll do my best to keep it simple for you:
Do you own the rights to any of the BF1942 intellectual property? (owning a copy of the game doesn't confer these rights on you)
Do you have permission from EA/DICE to use any of their intellectual propery or assets for your mod?
If you can answer "yes" to either of these questions, then go ahead and make your mod. If you answered "no" to either, then you'd better make sure that you're not using any BF1942 assets or properties.
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It really amazes me, how some of you just seem to have nothing better to do then to get into other peoples business, business you have no part of. Your lives must really be lacking in stimulation, or you can’t keep you’re mind on your own business or work.
It’s really is a sad state some of you are in. I don’t mind someone letting me know something when they know more about it than I, but you don’t know what I have or don’t have, and to be perfectly frank I think in this case I’m covered. So get the picture. I don’t know you, or care to since you obviously tend to just slack off on your own duties and choose again to garble in this shit. Nothing more from you will be acted on. As this thread is not yours to harness.
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WIP: Tiberium Sun Infantry [message #27981] |
Mon, 30 June 2003 08:23 |
PiMuRho
Messages: 494 Registered: February 2003
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It really amazes me, how some of you just seem to have nothing better to do then to get into other peoples business, business you have no part of.
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This is a public forum. You post it here, people are going to comment on it. If you didn't want people to comment on it, then why post?
Quote: | Your lives must really be lacking in stimulation, or you can’t keep you’re mind on your own business or work.
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Yes, because taking 2 minutes to type a post on here really affects my productivity.
Quote: | It’s really is a sad state some of you are in. I don’t mind someone letting me know something when they know more about it than I
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Bingo!
Quote: | but you don’t know what I have or don’t have, and to be perfectly frank I think in this case I’m covered.
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So why not say that instead of telling people that they don't know what they're talking about?
Quote: | So get the picture. I don’t know you, or care to since you obviously tend to just slack off on your own duties
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Do you know what my "duties" are? If not, you shouldn't presume to comment. This could be my day off for all you know. Plus, as I already mentioned, typing a reply in here hardly makes a big hole in my day.
Quote: | choose again to garble in this shit.
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It's a pet subject of mine. The vast majority of people are misinformed about it, which can have bad consequences for them 6 months down the line when their mod gets shut down.
Quote: | Nothing more from you will be acted on. As this thread is not yours to harness.
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I never expected you to act on anything. You seem far too ignorant to take anything on board, and you react very negatively to what I've said. Ignore it at your peril.
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WIP: Tiberium Sun Infantry [message #27994] |
Mon, 30 June 2003 09:44 |
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Imdgr8one
Messages: 874 Registered: February 2003 Location: Nebraska
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Captkurt |
It really amazes me, how some of you just seem to have nothing better to do then to get into other peoples business, business you have no part of.
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This is a public forum. You post it here, people are going to comment on it. If you didn't want people to comment on it, then why post?
Quote: | Your lives must really be lacking in stimulation, or you can’t keep you’re mind on your own business or work.
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Yes, because taking 2 minutes to type a post on here really affects my productivity.
Quote: | It’s really is a sad state some of you are in. I don’t mind someone letting me know something when they know more about it than I
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Bingo!
Quote: | but you don’t know what I have or don’t have, and to be perfectly frank I think in this case I’m covered.
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So why not say that instead of telling people that they don't know what they're talking about?
Quote: | So get the picture. I don’t know you, or care to since you obviously tend to just slack off on your own duties
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Do you know what my "duties" are? If not, you shouldn't presume to comment. This could be my day off for all you know. Plus, as I already mentioned, typing a reply in here hardly makes a big hole in my day.
Quote: | choose again to garble in this shit.
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It's a pet subject of mine. The vast majority of people are misinformed about it, which can have bad consequences for them 6 months down the line when their mod gets shut down.
Quote: | Nothing more from you will be acted on. As this thread is not yours to harness.
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I never expected you to act on anything. You seem far too ignorant to take anything on board, and you react very negatively to what I've said. Ignore it at your peril.
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WIP: Tiberium Sun Infantry [message #27996] |
Mon, 30 June 2003 09:56 |
SpartnII
Messages: 32 Registered: June 2003 Location: Florida
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*sighs* i wonder if i should ask to get this topic closed, because most of it is flame now anyway.....
ANYWAY!!!!!..For those of you who are trying to keep it on topic (like Gendres, maytridy, Slayer, and Joey-Y =OD, i REALLY appreciate it guys!)
Well the NOD soldier took about, i think 2 days to do (not straight, just a few hours each day) and the GDI soldier took 2 also. The NOD Engineer took about 3 hours becuase i had no idea how he should look, and only came up with a pack and breifcase :rolleyes: :rolleyes: And the Disk Thrower like 30 minutes =OD
I also have to make the GDI Engineer and Jump Jet, and also make the Disk Thrower Projectile, and try and make the NOD Rocket Soldier look different.
If anyone has any idea how some of these guys should look, i would really appreciate some comments or concepts or anything
Also my friend and co leader in my mod for BF1942 is uvwmapping the NOD soldier, if im lucky, he will uvwmap the GDI soldiers and stuff also, and ill give the SDK out to the people at polycount, and see what they come up with =O)
-SpartnII
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