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Fri, 17 August 2007 10:23  |
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im get a new pc built by someone and since my dumbass dont know how im choose some parts and see if they can put them togther but idk which are best of best so im ask here
btw its going to be a gaming pc
Whats better
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor
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AMD Athlon 64 x2 dual core?
Whats Better
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra
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Radeon 9800 LE 128MB.?
Whats Best Type Or Amount Of Memory For Gaming Pcs?
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| Re: New PC [message #279591 is a reply to message #279590] |
Fri, 17 August 2007 10:26  |
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The Intel is better.
The nVidia is better. (the ATi is several years old, lol)
You'll want at least a GB of memory for a gaming PC. 2 GB or more if you can afford it.
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| Re: New PC [message #279600 is a reply to message #279590] |
Fri, 17 August 2007 11:15 |
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I'd go with the 8800GTX over the 8800 Ultra myself though. The 8800 Ultra is just an overclocked 8800GTX, but it costs more than the extra performance it yields.
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| Re: New PC [message #279622 is a reply to message #279590] |
Fri, 17 August 2007 13:00 |
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go quad core and go nvidea. Those two give you the most bang for your buck.
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| Re: New PC [message #279625 is a reply to message #279590] |
Fri, 17 August 2007 13:07 |
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oh, and check your local library for "how to make your own PC guides", that's where I first learnt stuff.
Yeah, lots of RAM, if you can't get lots instantly, get a motherboard that can take lots (plenty of RAM slots, four is good), and add to it when you can afford it.
In this case of Nvidea vs. ATI, Nvidea does win, simply because the ATI card is way older. (I could make my old and unused crappy Nvidea geforce Mx100 lose to my ATI X1650, but there's no contest... the X1650 was made this millenium... and the Mx100 can only do AGP 4X... etc)
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| Re: New PC [message #279737 is a reply to message #279645] |
Sat, 18 August 2007 00:40 |
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| DarkDemin wrote on Fri, 17 August 2007 16:05 |
New system I just build (boots windows xp in 8-10 seconds!)
E6850 Core 2 Duo 3.0ghz on both cores
2GB Patriot 6400 DDR2
Asus i680 SLi motherboard
BFG 800 Watt Power Supply
Sticking with 7800GT for now since the Geforce 9000 series comes out late this year.
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how much did ur cpu cost?
and chuck it that true aboutt he vidoe cards?
and which dual intel cpu is the best? theres like a bunch and idk which is top of the linne
whats best type of sound cards i know the best vid cards are nvidia but what about sound cards?
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| Re: New PC [message #279741 is a reply to message #279590] |
Sat, 18 August 2007 03:21 |
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The best cards are not always Nvidea, if you're using a board with an Intel chipset, I've always found the onboard sound more than adequate, depends what you need.
For the Core 2 Duo, the most popular is probably the E6600, which has the best trade-off between power and price.
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| halokid wrote on Mon, 11 October 2010 08:46 |
| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 11 October 2010 15:35 |
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| Re: New PC [message #279764 is a reply to message #279590] |
Sat, 18 August 2007 05:55 |
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IMO NVIDIA is better than ATI for graphics (especially after the number of things that have had to be done to the scripts.dll for issues that are only appearing for ATI cards because ATI drivers suck so much). C2D is better than any current AMD IMO. I prefer Intel motherboards for Intel CPUs.
My current system:
Core 2 Duo 6400 @ 2.13GHz
2GB of RAM
Intel motherboard with on-board Ethernet and Audio
Nvidia GeForce 7600GT (I don't play anything that needs anything higher than this, even C&C3 runs with full settings)
160GB hard disk
LG Dual Layer DVD burner
802.11 WiFi card for access to the wireless router
Belkin USB Multimedia keyboard
Microsoft USB Optical Intellimouse (my favorite mouse)
Viewmaster 19" LCD monitor
Logitech 2.1ch speakers
Cannon Color Bubblejet Multi-Function Center
Jonathan Wilson aka Jonwil
Creator and Lead Coder of the Custom scripts.dll
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Creator and Lead Coder of TT.DLL
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| Re: New PC [message #279766 is a reply to message #279590] |
Sat, 18 August 2007 05:59 |
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The 7600 GT is a really good card, and well if your not going for top line C2D's like the 6600 its better to take the E4xxx series. They are pretty much the same as their E6xxx counterparts only on lower FSB and that can easily be solved.
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| Re: New PC [message #279777 is a reply to message #279590] |
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Yes, the 8800 Ultra is only an overclocked 8800GTX, so it's slightly better, but more than slightly more expensive. You'd be better off saving the money and going with the GTX IMO.
As for sound, unless you're really big on that, a X-Fi or high end Audigy probably isn't worth it. I've found, however, that a "standard" PCI Sound Blaster Platinum was an unbelievably huge improvement over my onboard sound, but I have an i865 chipset which uses the AC97 audio. Newer audio has improved a bit I hear.
One last comment towards jonwill's recommendation of a motherboard. Intel motherboards limit (most completley stop) overclocking. If you're not going to do that, Intel is the best, but if you are, they're not a good choice. The Core2Duos have alot of potential in overclocking. For example, a Core2Duo E6600 at stock is roughly equivalent to an AthlonX2 6000+ at stock, but the Core2Duo overclocks very well whereas the Athlon won't much at all. Just something to think about if you get a Core2Duo.
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When Chuck Norris does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.
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| Re: New PC [message #279823 is a reply to message #279590] |
Sat, 18 August 2007 14:01 |
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well i still need to decide which
vidoe card to get
and sound card
motherboard
and what comapny for my 2 dvd burners
and maybe somthing else
1)for such a hi vidoecard should i get a liqued cooling system?
2)also idk what to get xp or vista?
3) how good is a Intel Core 2 Extreme Dual Core processor?
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| Re: New PC [message #279840 is a reply to message #279590] |
Sat, 18 August 2007 15:53 |
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If after all those above posts you still can't decide between a GeForce 8800 Ultra and a Radeon 9800, there's only one thing left for you to do: Buy a Dell.
edit: removed sarcasm
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| Re: New PC [message #279859 is a reply to message #279590] |
Sat, 18 August 2007 17:42 |
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What OS you get is purely preference. I'd go for XP, but that's mean having to spend more later. Your call.
How about this? You give a bidget, and others can make recommendations on parts. List everything you'll need, and what you won't (i.e., such as not needing a monitor, keyboard, or mouse if you wont).
When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris is the reason why Waldo is hiding.
When Chuck Norris does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.
Chuck Norris can slam a revolving door.
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| Re: New PC [message #279867 is a reply to message #279590] |
Sat, 18 August 2007 18:22 |
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well i already made alist list of parts idk if they will all fit jsut yet and i still ahve to decide which company makes the best motherboards....
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| Re: New PC [message #279890 is a reply to message #279645] |
Sat, 18 August 2007 21:49 |
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| DarkDemin wrote on Fri, 17 August 2007 17:05 |
New system I just build (boots windows xp in 8-10 seconds!)
E6850 Core 2 Duo 3.0ghz on both cores
Asus i680 SLi motherboard
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Proof that just because you work at Best Buy doesn't mean you know everything about computers or how much you should spend on them. :V
CPU is the greater example of the two (i680 is fine, but Intel's chipsets are better... Guess you'll be going with SLi in the future, though, meh).
Also, I find Vista to be mildly satisfying with all the crap disabled (I basically turned it back into XP, lol) and the new hotfixes. However, I get crashes in certain "Nvidia favored" games because Nvidia's drivers suck so much ass on Vista (oh snap, Jonwil).
I think I may build another machine next year if I'm financially able to, time will tell. :0
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| Re: New PC [message #279914 is a reply to message #279590] |
Sun, 19 August 2007 02:36 |
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well i have this batch file that made to go around the window sfile protection to replace any sytem file i want with a cracked file and the file is uxtheme.dll (it takes 3 secs no lie and never had one error) and after i restrt my pc i can run .msstyles files without a software or a .theme to go with it will it still work for vista?
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The new ATI cards are pretty weird names 
But I heard they were pretty good.
