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Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274344] Thu, 19 July 2007 21:04 Go to next message
AoBfrost is currently offline  AoBfrost
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Is there any way to have anti alias on renegade without 3.4.1, i tried it and my renegade looked awsome with it on, but since it was buggy when playing with it, i switched back to 2.9.2 since it's still my favorite script, so is there any way to set anti aliasing to 3x without scripts.dll 3.4.1?

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Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274356 is a reply to message #274344] Thu, 19 July 2007 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Force it in your video driver settings.

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Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274361 is a reply to message #274344] Thu, 19 July 2007 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I tried it, but i saw no difference, I used Nvidia desktop manager but it didnt help, should i try download the newer nvidia control panel? There has to be a way through registry or hex editing or something.

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Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274367 is a reply to message #274344] Thu, 19 July 2007 23:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What video card do you have? If its an earlier card you may not see a difference at all.

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Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274380 is a reply to message #274344] Fri, 20 July 2007 01:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AoBfrost wrote on Thu, 19 July 2007 23:04

Is there any way to have anti alias on renegade without 3.4.1, i tried it and my renegade looked awsome with it on, but since it was buggy when playing with it, i switched back to 2.9.2 since it's still my favorite script, so is there any way to set anti aliasing to 3x without scripts.dll 3.4.1?



What was buggy about it? Stuff can't be fixed if people aren't saying WHAT is going on... Angry
Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274383 is a reply to message #274344] Fri, 20 July 2007 01:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iv had the scripts 4.3.1 for a while now (since it came out) and so far see no problem
Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274387 is a reply to message #274383] Fri, 20 July 2007 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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joe937465 wrote on Fri, 20 July 2007 02:47

iv had the scripts 3.4.1* for a while now (since it came out) and so far see no problem


If you can't notice a difference by forcing it through your driver settings, I'm not sure you'll notice a difference whatever you do.


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Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274388 is a reply to message #274387] Fri, 20 July 2007 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dave S. Anderson wrote on Fri, 20 July 2007 03:54

joe937465 wrote on Fri, 20 July 2007 02:47

iv had the scripts 3.4.1* for a while now (since it came out) and so far see no problem


If you can't notice a difference by forcing it through your driver settings, I'm not sure you'll notice a difference whatever you do.



my bad thanks for correcting that
Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274392 is a reply to message #274344] Fri, 20 July 2007 03:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since the page where it was originally hosted died when understorm/renevo's server went down last year, here's an unofficial link to Scorpio9a's RenD3D9 (works with scripts 2.9.2 and others prior to 3.x):
http://www.black-cell.net/~pub/havoc9826/rend3d9_75.zip

Unlike scripts 3.4.1, this also allows for anisotropic filtering (hint hint). Here's the archive.org page describing the graphics cards that this tool can run on.

Edit: @ Saberhawk - regarding bugginess in 3.4.1, I uploaded a couple of crashdumps at the end of this sticky thread, just in case you didn't notice.


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Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274400 is a reply to message #274344] Fri, 20 July 2007 04:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wait wha does this do?
http://www.black-cell.net/~pub/havoc9826/rend3d9_75.zip
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does it work for 3.4.1 aswell or im i reading it wrong
Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274495 is a reply to message #274344] Fri, 20 July 2007 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah thanks, I noticed the graphics on ren were great with 3.4.1 because i set anti alias at 3x, but textures didnt seem to connect smoothly for me, and terrain flashed for some reason, i wasnt too eager to bother with it, so i switched back to 2.9.2...like i always do...

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Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274515 is a reply to message #274400] Fri, 20 July 2007 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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joe937465 wrote on Fri, 20 July 2007 04:11

wait wha does this do?
http://www.black-cell.net/~pub/havoc9826/rend3d9_75.zip
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does it work for 3.4.1 aswell or im i reading it wrong


havoc9826 wrote on Fri, 20 July 2007 03:42

Scorpio9a's RenD3D9 (works with scripts 2.9.2 and others prior to 3.x)


Also, just in case BC's box ever goes down again, here's a local copy for the renforums.


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Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274571 is a reply to message #274380] Fri, 20 July 2007 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Saberhawk wrote on Fri, 20 July 2007 03:46

What was buggy about it? Stuff can't be fixed if people aren't saying WHAT is going on... Angry


What is going on? I told it before and AoBfrost just stated it again. Im sticking with 2.92 mainly because:
- There's a 400% impact on my fps, tearing gameplay
- V-Sync still doesn't work over here, makes muzzle flashes act silly
- Alpha blended texture still flicker me crazy
- Minor Z-buffer (or whatever) glitches all over the place

The above thingies, in my opinion, cancel out all the goodies scripts 3.x has to offer. I run against them too much.

edit: and yes i know, dx9 is to blame, not the scripts. but it still sux.

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Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274593 is a reply to message #274344] Fri, 20 July 2007 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well rend3d9 didnt work, i didnt see any improvment at all so i deleted it, I do have dx9c installed too, sooo...Hmmmm I'm gonna try to force my GPU to run game.exe with 4x anti aliasing.

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Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274595 is a reply to message #274344] Fri, 20 July 2007 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Did you forget to run the new wwconfig2.exe file that it adds into your \Renegade\ directory? The extra features don't work if you don't run the tool. Make sure you run wwconfig.exe first, and then wwconfig2.exe afterward.

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Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274611 is a reply to message #274344] Fri, 20 July 2007 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nevermind, I updated my laptop's graphics with a hacked update made for it with newer features, i was able to get forcing it to run with 4X anti alias to work, looks good now

But another question...why does text look slightly fuzzy and unreadable sometimes? I noticed it was the same with 3.4.1's anti alias, is it fixable by changing resolution?

my laptop's resolution is 1280x800 while renegade is 800x600


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Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274795 is a reply to message #274344] Sat, 21 July 2007 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LCDs sometimes don't like being outside their native res. You can change Renegade's res to your laptop's native res and it should look fine, but you'll be sacrificing performance.

Re: Anti Alias without 3.4.1 [message #274799 is a reply to message #274611] Sun, 22 July 2007 00:05 Go to previous message
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AoBfrost wrote on Fri, 20 July 2007 22:35

Nevermind, I updated my laptop's graphics with a hacked update made for it with newer features, i was able to get forcing it to run with 4X anti alias to work, looks good now

But another question...why does text look slightly fuzzy and unreadable sometimes? I noticed it was the same with 3.4.1's anti alias, is it fixable by changing resolution?

my laptop's resolution is 1280x800 while renegade is 800x600
As cmatt42 said, it's either due to the interpolation, or, since you say it's related to AA, it's sounds like the AA method being applied might be doing multisampling. Instead of supersampling ("normal" AA), multisampling simply renders the frame at a larger resolution than you're actually running in, and then shrinks it down to smooth it out and make it look like AA. Since the whole screen is effected, text will look blurry.

What video card do you have? If it's an nVidia card and you're using a Quincunx mode, that is multisampling. There's some other modes for both nVidia and ATi that do this too.


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