Re: erikboxem [message #272661 is a reply to message #272535] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 19:11 |
Mincus35
Messages: 2 Registered: July 2007 Location: USA
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DG abothered wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 11:15 |
i wud like 2 c ur logs i do not beleive u. any ways this is r irc u shudnt be in there.
i trust erikboxem, i beleive him.
and post logs on this forumn then!
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I have the logs because i am one of the leaders of gamerz0ne community thats y i was on ur irc as for the logs here they are.
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Re: erikboxem [message #272680 is a reply to message #272671] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 22:47 |
jojobinks1610
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Renerage wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 22:44 | I'll post the one post that makes most sence on here-
Who Fucking Cares
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I am afraid that I have to agree with this user, who cares!, This argument has gone on long enough, Erik knows he did wrong during the fun war and I believe he is genuinely sorry for what he did but what's done is done and cannot be changed, so lets all just move on and get back to enjoying the game like adults instead of acting like a bunch of school children arguing in the school playground!.
I am not going to say any more on this matter and just get on with playing the game, if there are those who want to continue to argue then that is their choice, but personally I cannot see the point in it, arguing will not change the past, so get over it!.
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Re: erikboxem [message #272681 is a reply to message #272082] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 23:27 |
Tunaman
Messages: 1190 Registered: January 2005
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This happened a few days ago, its not really the past yet. No covering things up because people can't take the heat from what they did plox. =[
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Re: erikboxem [message #272738 is a reply to message #272733] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 04:58 |
Caveman
Messages: 2476 Registered: July 2005 Location: Wales, UK
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One Winged Angel wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 12:46 | Dammit, the stupidity of some people here is unbearable.
Why should he be banned if he has not done anything to you personally and he wasn't doing any intentional harm to other players? I agree that cheats are bad, but without a spectator mode or something (like MP-Gaming's server) what was there to use to root out the cheat? IRC logs are good but con-crete proof is more substantial in an argument to back up the log.
I believe erik acted in a perfectly acceptable way since he has the authority to do so. Any of you saying "well does that mean we can cheat to find cheaters" are wrong, since you don't have the right to do so on their server. Since erik is an official on the server, I would see that it is his right to use what methods he can to root out cheaters. Although, he should think a bit more next time before acting so rashly.
Give him a slap on the wrist and send him on his way. Banning is too extreme for this case.
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Ok so wtf? Perhaps you didn't read the logs? He never left game. So that means h joined the server with *cheat name removed*turned on. And you think thats fair? And just before you say well how do you know he actually used it to cheat, I will answer with - So its ok for me to join with BigHead but I won't use it?
The simple matter of fact is that you don't use cheats to find cheats and if you do, you certainly don't use them during a funwar.
CarrierII wrote | BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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Re: erikboxem [message #272743 is a reply to message #272082] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 05:49 |
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Messages: 7429 Registered: February 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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1) SSGM should be installed on EVERY server. You can disable the features you don't want - the most important thing is to leave gamelog on. It records every bit of damage dealt, player locations, chats, and more. I can't tell you how many times I have busted cheaters by analying the gamelog.txt file. IF in fact the explanation has any margin of truth in it, the gamelog file could have found the cheater.
2) I'm saying this as a server owner, hoping that perhaps others might follow: If you are afraid to leave DG because you have power in the server, I am offering you the possibility of getting a similar position in n00bstories. Just fill out this application here: http://www.n00bstories.com/n00bkicker.app.php and mention that you are a member of DG looking to defect. Your answers to our application will be very important because we don't know you as well as a player, so keep that in mind. You may contact me via PM if you have any questions.
I'm the bawss.
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Re: erikboxem [message #272744 is a reply to message #272082] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 05:56 |
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Goztow
Messages: 9737 Registered: March 2005 Location: Belgium
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Plz don't ignore the RG network question:
bypassing RG = ban from the network, right?
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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Re: erikboxem [message #272750 is a reply to message #272733] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 06:27 |
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cheesesoda
Messages: 6507 Registered: March 2003 Location: Jackson, Michigan
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One Winged Angel | Dammit, the stupidity of some people here is unbearable.
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This is where we agree.
One Winged Angel | Why should he be banned if he has not done anything to you personally and he wasn't doing any intentional harm to other players? I agree that cheats are bad, but without a spectator mode or something (like MP-Gaming's server) what was there to use to root out the cheat? IRC logs are good but con-crete proof is more substantial in an argument to back up the log.
I believe erik acted in a perfectly acceptable way since he has the authority to do so. Any of you saying "well does that mean we can cheat to find cheaters" are wrong, since you don't have the right to do so on their server. Since erik is an official on the server, I would see that it is his right to use what methods he can to root out cheaters. Although, he should think a bit more next time before acting so rashly.
Give him a slap on the wrist and send him on his way. Banning is too extreme for this case.
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This is where we disagree.
You don't get it, do you? HE LIED. He and his cronies all said that he LEFT the game to activate the cheat to "seek" the cheater. The logs, however, prove otherwise. He only joined the server once, so he had the cheat activated BEFORE he joined.
So we have erik using a cheat, and lying about using the cheat. What more do I have to say to convince you that what he did wasn't "perfectly acceptable". HE LIED, FOR GOD'S SAKE. THAT TELLS YOU SOMETHING ABOUT HIS INTEGRITY.
whoa.
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