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Re: erikboxem [message #272661 is a reply to message #272535] Wed, 11 July 2007 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DG abothered wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 11:15


i wud like 2 c ur logs i do not beleive u. any ways this is r irc u shudnt be in there.
i trust erikboxem, i beleive him.
and post logs on this forumn then!


I have the logs because i am one of the leaders of gamerz0ne community thats y i was on ur irc as for the logs here they are.



Re: erikboxem [message #272665 is a reply to message #272661] Wed, 11 July 2007 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can only fine "<DGCW> Player [dg]erikboxem joined the game" once in those logs.

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Re: erikboxem [message #272669 is a reply to message #272665] Wed, 11 July 2007 20:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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what this comes down to is 0x90's word vs. erikboxem's; to my understanding 0x90 should know how the cheat works considering he made it

...erik never left and rejoined, you can check the logs like i did

that means he had the shit running the whole time, and his reason that it was only "to catch cheaters" has absolutely no credibility Dont Get It

i can tell by reading that the DG people don't care what anyone else has to say and are going to stand by erik; that isn't what i care about

...i just want him to step up and admit it Big Ups


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Re: erikboxem [message #272671 is a reply to message #272669] Wed, 11 July 2007 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll post the one post that makes most sence on here-

Who Fucking Cares


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Re: erikboxem [message #272675 is a reply to message #272671] Wed, 11 July 2007 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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is he banned from the RG network yet?
Re: erikboxem [message #272680 is a reply to message #272671] Wed, 11 July 2007 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renerage wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 22:44

I'll post the one post that makes most sence on here-

Who Fucking Cares


I am afraid that I have to agree with this user, who cares!, This argument has gone on long enough, Erik knows he did wrong during the fun war and I believe he is genuinely sorry for what he did but what's done is done and cannot be changed, so lets all just move on and get back to enjoying the game like adults instead of acting like a bunch of school children arguing in the school playground!.

I am not going to say any more on this matter and just get on with playing the game, if there are those who want to continue to argue then that is their choice, but personally I cannot see the point in it, arguing will not change the past, so get over it!.
Re: erikboxem [message #272681 is a reply to message #272082] Wed, 11 July 2007 23:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This happened a few days ago, its not really the past yet. No covering things up because people can't take the heat from what they did plox. =[

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Re: erikboxem [message #272682 is a reply to message #272082] Wed, 11 July 2007 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i wonder how many pages this will make Smile
Re: erikboxem [message #272683 is a reply to message #272669] Wed, 11 July 2007 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 05:37

what this comes down to is 0x90's word vs. erikboxem's; to my understanding 0x90 should know how the cheat works considering he made it

...erik never left and rejoined, you can check the logs like i did

that means he had the shit running the whole time, and his reason that it was only "to catch cheaters" has absolutely no credibility Dont Get It

i can tell by reading that the DG people don't care what anyone else has to say and are going to stand by erik; that isn't what i care about

...i just want him to step up and admit it Big Ups


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is he banned from the RG network yet?


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Re: erikboxem [message #272689 is a reply to message #272669] Thu, 12 July 2007 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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liquidv2 wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 22:37

what this comes down to is 0x90's word vs. erikboxem's; to my understanding 0x90 should know how the cheat works considering he made it

...erik never left and rejoined, you can check the logs like i did

that means he had the shit running the whole time, and his reason that it was only "to catch cheaters" has absolutely no credibility Dont Get It

i can tell by reading that the DG people don't care what anyone else has to say and are going to stand by erik; that isn't what i care about

...i just want him to step up and admit it Big Ups

Regardless of whether 0x90's statement is correct, erikboxem only joined the server once - at the start of the game. Therefore, he was lying about the whole thing.


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Re: erikboxem [message #272697 is a reply to message #272082] Thu, 12 July 2007 01:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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is he banned from the RG network yet?


I hope, bypassing rg = ban?! Sarcasm


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Re: erikboxem [message #272698 is a reply to message #272082] Thu, 12 July 2007 01:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Duke Gaming are pretty well known for harbouring cheaters imo.

anyone else notice how the DG people who have come here to post seem to think that it is totally NORMAL to have cheats on your computer and that it is normal to have used them at some point?

ERIKBOXEM's IP: 82.72.117.15

Ban at will Big Grin


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Re: erikboxem [message #272702 is a reply to message #272698] Thu, 12 July 2007 02:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MexPirate wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 10:58

Duke Gaming are pretty well known for harbouring cheaters imo.

anyone else notice how the DG people who have come here to post seem to think that it is totally NORMAL to have cheats on your computer and that it is normal to have used them at some point?

ERIKBOXEM's IP: 82.72.117.15

Ban at will Big Grin

You know what the good thing about him is? He's dutch, which means he most likely has a static IP. Thus if you ban his IP, he shouldn't be able to join anyway Smile


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Re: erikboxem [message #272716 is a reply to message #272680] Thu, 12 July 2007 03:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jojobinks1610 wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 00:47

, Erik knows he did wrong during the fun war and I believe he is genuinely sorry


Total fucking pish. The cheats are never sorry. Wow Rolling Eyes
Re: erikboxem [message #272717 is a reply to message #272082] Thu, 12 July 2007 03:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i usd chets un ur serv nuw im bant i um lik raly sry plz unbant ma ih wost ma folt ma dug loded r g h nd sturted chetng un ur serv.
Re: erikboxem [message #272721 is a reply to message #272082] Thu, 12 July 2007 03:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://duke-gaming.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1836 LOL

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Re: erikboxem [message #272726 is a reply to message #272721] Thu, 12 July 2007 04:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MexPirate wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 05:57

http://duke-gaming.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1836 LOL


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Re: erikboxem [message #272733 is a reply to message #272082] Thu, 12 July 2007 04:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dammit, the stupidity of some people here is unbearable.

Why should he be banned if he has not done anything to you personally and he wasn't doing any intentional harm to other players? I agree that cheats are bad, but without a spectator mode or something (like MP-Gaming's server) what was there to use to root out the cheat? IRC logs are good but con-crete proof is more substantial in an argument to back up the log.

I believe erik acted in a perfectly acceptable way since he has the authority to do so. Any of you saying "well does that mean we can cheat to find cheaters" are wrong, since you don't have the right to do so on their server. Since erik is an official on the server, I would see that it is his right to use what methods he can to root out cheaters. Although, he should think a bit more next time before acting so rashly.

Give him a slap on the wrist and send him on his way. Banning is too extreme for this case.


Re: erikboxem [message #272738 is a reply to message #272733] Thu, 12 July 2007 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One Winged Angel wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 12:46

Dammit, the stupidity of some people here is unbearable.

Why should he be banned if he has not done anything to you personally and he wasn't doing any intentional harm to other players? I agree that cheats are bad, but without a spectator mode or something (like MP-Gaming's server) what was there to use to root out the cheat? IRC logs are good but con-crete proof is more substantial in an argument to back up the log.

I believe erik acted in a perfectly acceptable way since he has the authority to do so. Any of you saying "well does that mean we can cheat to find cheaters" are wrong, since you don't have the right to do so on their server. Since erik is an official on the server, I would see that it is his right to use what methods he can to root out cheaters. Although, he should think a bit more next time before acting so rashly.

Give him a slap on the wrist and send him on his way. Banning is too extreme for this case.



Ok so wtf? Perhaps you didn't read the logs? He never left game. So that means h joined the server with *cheat name removed*turned on. And you think thats fair? And just before you say well how do you know he actually used it to cheat, I will answer with - So its ok for me to join with BigHead but I won't use it?

The simple matter of fact is that you don't use cheats to find cheats and if you do, you certainly don't use them during a funwar.


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Re: erikboxem [message #272743 is a reply to message #272082] Thu, 12 July 2007 05:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1) SSGM should be installed on EVERY server. You can disable the features you don't want - the most important thing is to leave gamelog on. It records every bit of damage dealt, player locations, chats, and more. I can't tell you how many times I have busted cheaters by analying the gamelog.txt file. IF in fact the explanation has any margin of truth in it, the gamelog file could have found the cheater.

2) I'm saying this as a server owner, hoping that perhaps others might follow: If you are afraid to leave DG because you have power in the server, I am offering you the possibility of getting a similar position in n00bstories. Just fill out this application here: http://www.n00bstories.com/n00bkicker.app.php and mention that you are a member of DG looking to defect. Your answers to our application will be very important because we don't know you as well as a player, so keep that in mind. You may contact me via PM if you have any questions.


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Re: erikboxem [message #272744 is a reply to message #272082] Thu, 12 July 2007 05:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Plz don't ignore the RG network question:

bypassing RG = ban from the network, right?


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I thought they already did.

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Re: erikboxem [message #272750 is a reply to message #272733] Thu, 12 July 2007 06:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One Winged Angel

Dammit, the stupidity of some people here is unbearable.

This is where we agree.

One Winged Angel

Why should he be banned if he has not done anything to you personally and he wasn't doing any intentional harm to other players? I agree that cheats are bad, but without a spectator mode or something (like MP-Gaming's server) what was there to use to root out the cheat? IRC logs are good but con-crete proof is more substantial in an argument to back up the log.

I believe erik acted in a perfectly acceptable way since he has the authority to do so. Any of you saying "well does that mean we can cheat to find cheaters" are wrong, since you don't have the right to do so on their server. Since erik is an official on the server, I would see that it is his right to use what methods he can to root out cheaters. Although, he should think a bit more next time before acting so rashly.

Give him a slap on the wrist and send him on his way. Banning is too extreme for this case.

This is where we disagree.

You don't get it, do you? HE LIED. He and his cronies all said that he LEFT the game to activate the cheat to "seek" the cheater. The logs, however, prove otherwise. He only joined the server once, so he had the cheat activated BEFORE he joined.

So we have erik using a cheat, and lying about using the cheat. What more do I have to say to convince you that what he did wasn't "perfectly acceptable". HE LIED, FOR GOD'S SAKE. THAT TELLS YOU SOMETHING ABOUT HIS INTEGRITY.


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Re: erikboxem [message #272751 is a reply to message #272082] Thu, 12 July 2007 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is his server is it not? Or am I mistaken here. I find it perfectly acceptable if it is on his server. Otherwise I take back my previous comment.

Logs are too long, so I didn't read. I'm just vouching an opinion based on what I know.

Needs Saberhawk's anticheat..... It blocks 90% of renegade nastys. Pity it is clientside though :\


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Yes it was his server, but it was during an FCW, sooo go figure that people are mad.

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