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Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #263447 is a reply to message #262642] Tue, 05 June 2007 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hitler didn't specifically kill non-whites. tut tut tut, you are doing o level history as well.

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Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #263494 is a reply to message #262642] Tue, 05 June 2007 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would worry about real issues like illigal immagration not stupid shit like steroids in baseball. I would worry about North Korea not stupid shit like grand theft auto having a naughty scene. ect.

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Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #263506 is a reply to message #263494] Tue, 05 June 2007 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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luv2pb wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 22:08

I would worry about real issues like illigal immagration not stupid shit like steroids in baseball. I would worry about North Korea not stupid shit like grand theft auto having a naughty scene. ect.


Personally, I dont see why they wanna keep out Mexicans from Us? And I also dont see why Cubans are shot on spot, when caught leaving.
Makes me love living in canada.
And Steroids in baseball, happens alot, but ever notice its with the players who are really good or have a god public image?
You never hear of steroids from people who arent batting .350, Pitching 103 MPH, K'ing 13 times a game, or smacking home runs.

Its only the good players who get the attention. Makes you wonder how many people actually use steroids.


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Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #263606 is a reply to message #263506] Wed, 06 June 2007 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheekay77 wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 23:48

luv2pb wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 22:08

I would worry about real issues like illigal immagration not stupid shit like steroids in baseball. I would worry about North Korea not stupid shit like grand theft auto having a naughty scene. ect.


Personally, I dont see why they wanna keep out Mexicans from Us? And I also dont see why Cubans are shot on spot, when caught leaving.

MANY MANY MANY MANY reasons why we have to worry about illegal immigration.

1. These illegal immigrants are... in the country illegally.
2. They don't pay taxes, yet live in the US.
3. They get welfare, wasting even MORE money on that piece of shit program.
4. They get thrown in jail and waste even more American taxpayer money.

I could go on, but those are the main bullet points.


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Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #263632 is a reply to message #263606] Wed, 06 June 2007 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 11:27

cheekay77 wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 23:48

luv2pb wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 22:08

I would worry about real issues like illigal immagration not stupid shit like steroids in baseball. I would worry about North Korea not stupid shit like grand theft auto having a naughty scene. ect.


Personally, I dont see why they wanna keep out Mexicans from Us? And I also dont see why Cubans are shot on spot, when caught leaving.

MANY MANY MANY MANY reasons why we have to worry about illegal immigration.

1. These illegal immigrants are... in the country illegally.
2. They don't pay taxes, yet live in the US.
3. They get welfare, wasting even MORE money on that piece of shit program.
4. They get thrown in jail and waste even more American taxpayer money.

I could go on, but those are the main bullet points.

At what point did I say I wanted to keep Maxicans out? I do. But I didn't say that in what you quoted.


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Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #263636 is a reply to message #263632] Wed, 06 June 2007 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They steal our jobs.
They could be possible terrorists.
Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #263651 is a reply to message #263632] Wed, 06 June 2007 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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luv2pb wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 13:26

j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 11:27

cheekay77 wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 23:48

luv2pb wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 22:08

I would worry about real issues like illigal immagration not stupid shit like steroids in baseball. I would worry about North Korea not stupid shit like grand theft auto having a naughty scene. ect.


Personally, I dont see why they wanna keep out Mexicans from Us? And I also dont see why Cubans are shot on spot, when caught leaving.

MANY MANY MANY MANY reasons why we have to worry about illegal immigration.

1. These illegal immigrants are... in the country illegally.
2. They don't pay taxes, yet live in the US.
3. They get welfare, wasting even MORE money on that piece of shit program.
4. They get thrown in jail and waste even more American taxpayer money.

I could go on, but those are the main bullet points.

At what point did I say I wanted to keep Maxicans out? I do. But I didn't say that in what you quoted.

At what point was I quoting you?


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Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #263678 is a reply to message #262642] Wed, 06 June 2007 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wouldn't want to be the secretary of state of an existing country. I'd much rather buy an island somewhere and run my own government. It'd be like that place in the film The Beach, but without the drugs farmers and the inevitable doom. Big Grin

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Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #263680 is a reply to message #263651] Wed, 06 June 2007 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 14:08

luv2pb wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 13:26

j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 11:27

cheekay77 wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 23:48

luv2pb wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 22:08

I would worry about real issues like illigal immagration not stupid shit like steroids in baseball. I would worry about North Korea not stupid shit like grand theft auto having a naughty scene. ect.


Personally, I dont see why they wanna keep out Mexicans from Us? And I also dont see why Cubans are shot on spot, when caught leaving.

MANY MANY MANY MANY reasons why we have to worry about illegal immigration.

1. These illegal immigrants are... in the country illegally.
2. They don't pay taxes, yet live in the US.
3. They get welfare, wasting even MORE money on that piece of shit program.
4. They get thrown in jail and waste even more American taxpayer money.

I could go on, but those are the main bullet points.

At what point did I say I wanted to keep Maxicans out? I do. But I didn't say that in what you quoted.

At what point was I quoting you?

I'm the start of the quote there by you are quoting me. And mine was referring to cheekay's post above yours.


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Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #263686 is a reply to message #263680] Wed, 06 June 2007 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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luv2pb wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 15:48

j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 14:08

luv2pb wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 13:26

j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 11:27

cheekay77 wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 23:48

luv2pb wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 22:08

I would worry about real issues like illigal immagration not stupid shit like steroids in baseball. I would worry about North Korea not stupid shit like grand theft auto having a naughty scene. ect.


Personally, I dont see why they wanna keep out Mexicans from Us? And I also dont see why Cubans are shot on spot, when caught leaving.

MANY MANY MANY MANY reasons why we have to worry about illegal immigration.

1. These illegal immigrants are... in the country illegally.
2. They don't pay taxes, yet live in the US.
3. They get welfare, wasting even MORE money on that piece of shit program.
4. They get thrown in jail and waste even more American taxpayer money.

I could go on, but those are the main bullet points.

At what point did I say I wanted to keep Maxicans out? I do. But I didn't say that in what you quoted.

At what point was I quoting you?

I'm the start of the quote there by you are quoting me. And mine was referring to cheekay's post above yours.

You quoted my post... not his.

Also, why are we arguing?


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Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #263688 is a reply to message #263686] Wed, 06 June 2007 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #263701 is a reply to message #263636] Wed, 06 June 2007 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bluethen wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 12:30

They steal our jobs.
They could be possible terrorists.

me too

they only steal jobs like picking tomatoes...
and y would they be terrorists? majority of 'Terrorists' are muslim but some are not like the northern Ireland guys Huh y would mexicans fight for ppl in the middle east?


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Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #263803 is a reply to message #262642] Wed, 06 June 2007 18:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I believe J_ball sums up why illegal immigration is a bad thing. To add on top of that, they're not registered for the draft.

Personally I think a fair trade would be:
3 years of U.S. Military service + Good understanding and communication in English = Full Citizenship.

That's just me though.

Oh look! Another one of my policies! Very Happy

but still...Welfare = 0

except Senior Citizens and people with REAL disabilities I suppose. Real disabilities include things like autism, paraplegics, the blind, the deaf, ect.

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I worked at a Human Services building as a Security Guard for ONE week and was completely disgusted at the amount of able bodied men and women with 6 children that came waltzing in there. Get to work, and close your damn legs. I shouldn't have to support other people's children with my taxes.


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Re: What would you do if you were your country's head of state? [message #264513 is a reply to message #262642] Sat, 09 June 2007 02:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Military service for citizen ship has some advantages and disadvantages.

On the one hand you are solving the crunch for troops. There are a LOT of Mexicans wanting citizenship.

On the other hand you have essentially mercenaries fighting for us. That didn't pan out very well for the Romans :/ Also they are fighting for something they cannot yet enjoy. I think if you did that you would probably have to give them a three year contract, and make them citizens at that point. I mean sure there'd be some who sign up for the army and try to skip out but think about it. What are they gonna do? Flee the country! Ah ha ha. That was a good one I think. Anyhow if you made them citizens right then when they officially entered the army they would in fact be American citizens fighting for America. By the way they can't be trained or commanded unless they speak English. Just seems win win win win to me. So they sell some chicle, buy a book to learn some English, go to the border and sign a contract with the US government, become an enslisted man and become a US citizen. Sounds great.

By the way gbull I agree about the welfare thing. I was glad to see you cede the point about the truely disabled though. In an ideal world there would be no welfare but there really are people out there who cannot make a living. My brother is autistic and if my family wasn't still supporting him there's no way on Earth he could make it on his own. He's 25 and works 1 day a week at the Library shelving books.

If only there was some way to make the welfare system more... lean. Some way to prevent people from just living off it without cause.


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1 make disabled ppl have a special card to indicate they are disabled in someway
2 have security guards outside of offices so normal ppl can just come in and beg for welfare Very Happy
3 high disability pension for life (if u worked for at least 2 years?)
4 GET A DAM JOB U LAZY ASS PPL!
5 make a mandatory job law
6 ^ if not enough jobs make more civil servant jobs (garbage picker upers Very Happy)


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EKT-Sadukar wrote on Sat, 09 June 2007 07:00

1 make disabled ppl have a special card to indicate they are disabled in someway
2 have security guards outside of offices so normal ppl can just come in and beg for welfare Very Happy
3 high disability pension for life (if u worked for at least 2 years?)
4 GET A DAM JOB U LAZY ASS PPL!
5 make a mandatory job law
6 ^ if not enough jobs make more civil servant jobs (garbage picker upers Very Happy)

Are you fucking serious? I can see you being assassinated in a very short amount of time.


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Well if you want to do stuff like that you just have to have a really strong government. They are all sort of fascist policies. People don't have jobs? Make more jobs. Put the people to work doing whatever as long as they have a job. Simple solutions to complicated problems.

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j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 10 June 2007 03:23

EKT-Sadukar wrote on Sat, 09 June 2007 07:00

1 make disabled ppl have a special card to indicate they are disabled in someway
2 have security guards outside of offices so normal ppl can just come in and beg for welfare Very Happy
3 high disability pension for life (if u worked for at least 2 years?)
4 GET A DAM JOB U LAZY ASS PPL!
5 make a mandatory job law
6 ^ if not enough jobs make more civil servant jobs (garbage picker upers Very Happy)

Are you fucking serious? I can see you being assassinated in a very short amount of time.


body armor and body guards Very Happy
and yes create more jobs for ppl who cant find a job -_- may cost a lot of state money...but hey it raises the GDP so...doesnt matter Tell Me


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j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 15:58

luv2pb wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 15:48

j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 14:08

luv2pb wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 13:26

j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 11:27

cheekay77 wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 23:48

luv2pb wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 22:08

I would worry about real issues like illigal immagration not stupid shit like steroids in baseball. I would worry about North Korea not stupid shit like grand theft auto having a naughty scene. ect.


Personally, I dont see why they wanna keep out Mexicans from Us? And I also dont see why Cubans are shot on spot, when caught leaving.

MANY MANY MANY MANY reasons why we have to worry about illegal immigration.

1. These illegal immigrants are... in the country illegally.
2. They don't pay taxes, yet live in the US.
3. They get welfare, wasting even MORE money on that piece of shit program.
4. They get thrown in jail and waste even more American taxpayer money.

I could go on, but those are the main bullet points.

At what point did I say I wanted to keep Maxicans out? I do. But I didn't say that in what you quoted.

At what point was I quoting you?

I'm the start of the quote there by you are quoting me. And mine was referring to cheekay's post above yours.

You quoted my post... not his.

Also, why are we arguing?

Because I like cheese so fuck you.


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Restricting welfare to only the truly disabled would help this country's debt problems immensely I think.

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Bigger isn't always better. For instance, government is a good example of that. Personally, I don't see why people think that equality is better than liberty.

I would much rather be in control of my life and make life altering decisions on my own whether positive and negative, and have nobody to answer to for my actions than myself. Whether I end up a success or a failure, I want that to be my doing.

I don't want to take away from others for my own good. That's selfish. I also don't want to take from others to give to others because that's arrogant. Yeah, we all need to look outside of ourselves and help others, but not by force, and certainly not by force at the hands of our government.

If you saw gbull's old signature, you would have seen a quote from me. It basically said that we need to be responsible for our actions. We can't lay the blame on anybody else but ourselves for what we do. Our society increasingly seems to feel that if we make a mistake, the government should fix that. Wrong. All you do then is steal from everybody else because the government stepping in only makes the government spend more money which is gathered through taxes which is ultimately paid by those of us who AREN'T fuck-ups. If I want to help a fuck-up, that should be MY choice, not the choice of some ignorant 'bleeding-heart' fucktard who wants to spend my money for the 'common good'. Sorry, but I earned this money. I should be able to choose to do with it as I please. Nobody else should be able to tell me what I should be spending my money on.

I'm not saying government is bad. Government is very much needed. However, a large government becomes intrusive, and gives more power to people who are corruptible. We're human, we're all corruptible, and giving too much power to any one person or group is very very dangerous. Saddam Hussein is a prime, recent example of this. Another would obviously be Adolf Hitler, and yet another would be Joseph Stalin. These are all examples from within the past century.

Government is good, but only if the people that it's supposed to serve are still in control of it. Stealing a quote from 'V for Vendetta', "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." Name me an incredibly powerful government that didn't scare its people, and I'll change my views on big government. However, we all know there isn't one good example. Only theoretical governments.


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^ took u long enough eh?
If welfare was only restricted to disabled people, there shouldn't be many people disabled anyway. Plus maybe make a law for giving the disabled person a minimum (say $500000?) amount of disability pension. IF thats not enough (wtf? 500k is not enough???) they can get state welfare (say $2000?) thats a good amount in the U.S. or Canada. Since right now Canadian welfare is about $1000...I think...Plus every country has SOME form of national debt (except U.S. but who else is as rich as them Americans???)


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EKT-Sadukar wrote on Mon, 11 June 2007 15:31

^ took u long enough eh?
If welfare was only restricted to disabled people, there shouldn't be many people disabled anyway. Plus maybe make a law for giving the disabled person a minimum (say $500000?) amount of disability pension. IF thats not enough (wtf? 500k is not enough???) they can get state welfare (say $2000?) thats a good amount in the U.S. or Canada. Since right now Canadian welfare is about $1000...I think...Plus every country has SOME form of national debt (except U.S. but who else is as rich as them Americans???)


Erm, wrong.
Canadian Welfare is 625/ Month.
Disability, is 1000+ Depending on injury per month.
Disability in canada is WAY too easy to claim, I myself, could claim it, because of my one knee. Busted it pretty bad in football last year, hurts to bend.
But I chose not to, I chose to go in work.
I guess in 15 years, when my cartilidge in my knee is fully gone, Then yea, I'll go on disability, and even then, I might chose to work from home, kinda like Crimmy does.
But I have no Coding, Programming, or Computer sence, other then how to put one together.
So I'd have to find something else to do from home, probably advertising, which I think is PURE bullshit.
Those online surveys, which yea, do pay some money. (You can do them everyday, and make money)
And maybe connect myself with Insurance brokers, like my mom does, get a business line, make myself available 8 hours a day.
Now that last one, is my best option.
Most cash, most reliable, most secure.


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Wow your one of those strong types! Very Happy Unlike those n33bs once they break a leg and go on disability pensions...

And anyone have a suggestion about crime? Mines making criminals go say in a military camp and then send them to Iraq Big Grin or Afghanistan. They should be in a paramilitary unit so they won't be affected by military law Big Ups


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There are million dollar operations needed by some people. It's pretty easy to go over your lifetime providance when you are in the hospital. When my little sister was a baby she had a mole on the back top of her head and they thought it looked suspicious so they wanted it removed. It was a 19,000$ operation, to remove a mole. Think about if you stay at the hospital a long time or need a series of operations.



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