| Re: What Do YOU Consider The Best Firewall And Why? [message #244947 is a reply to message #244835] |
Sun, 11 February 2007 20:24   |
genetix
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I haven't been running a firewall or router on my server for several years now.
Why? I have complete control over who uses the computer. I don't download worthless crap. Anything that is installed is only trusted software. I keep track of all access to my server.
I guess in a way I do have a router. But its only used 50% of the time(dual ethernet).
Puzzle - Petals Around the Rose
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| Re: What Do YOU Consider The Best Firewall And Why? [message #244960 is a reply to message #244835] |
Mon, 12 February 2007 00:19 |
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That's not entirely true. It's practically impossible to tell what gets on your computer, no matter how careful you are. Anyone could easily have a botnet on their computer without knowing it. Like 80% of the people on the internet have no idea that they have a botnet on their computer.
It's good to have some protection at least.
EDIT: oops, I missed "server". I thought you meant your personal computer.
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| Re: What Do YOU Consider The Best Firewall And Why? [message #244985 is a reply to message #244887] |
Mon, 12 February 2007 03:37 |
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| Ryan3k wrote on Sun, 11 February 2007 16:20 |
I have a router and Zone Alarm, and I guess I have the exact same problem that you do... if I my computer idles for, say, as long as an hour or so, when I try to get on the internet when I get back, I can't connect until I turn off Zone Alarm: "This page cannot be displayed."
So that's what I always do - turn it off, then turn it back on. It's stupid but I don't know how to fix it.
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Hey! I get that too and always re-set the router 
ZA will not allow me to run IRC. I have to turn off ZA, run IRC then reconnect ZA.
However it was the only programme that caught "WIN32/Luder.V"
Long live ZA even if it causes a few problems. I can live with that. 
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| Re: What Do YOU Consider The Best Firewall And Why? [message #244999 is a reply to message #244835] |
Mon, 12 February 2007 08:46 |
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well i used to use ZA and norton antivirus a while back but then i got a trojan. so now my firewall of choice is filscelab firewall. its free, doesnt take many resources and best of all it shows you everything and you can configure everything in there (try it you wont regret it). i also purchased pccillin 2006 package last year which comes with its own firewall. i bought a router and i got spyware doctor. oh and i got another few antispyware programs lol. yeah i know im paranoid. but thats what happens when your computer got infected in the past.
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| Re: What Do YOU Consider The Best Firewall And Why? [message #245023 is a reply to message #244960] |
Mon, 12 February 2007 12:21 |
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| icedog90 wrote on Mon, 12 February 2007 02:19 |
That's not entirely true. It's practically impossible to tell what gets on your computer, no matter how careful you are. Anyone could easily have a botnet on their computer without knowing it. Like 80% of the people on the internet have no idea that they have a botnet on their computer.
It's good to have some protection at least.
EDIT: oops, I missed "server". I thought you meant your personal computer.
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True but if you just have a updated Windows and use your brains. ( Not just clicking yes on sites ) and surf with a Different browser. You are pretty save of not getting a virus. People who use p2p like Limewire and what not will have a 95% more chance. They are usualy also the people who dont know what shit they are running no offence. I do agree on the other part though you can't say your say without a virusscanner. Because in some occasions you would never be able to find it.
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| Re: What Do YOU Consider The Best Firewall And Why? [message #245087 is a reply to message #244835] |
Mon, 12 February 2007 20:18 |
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I run a good anti-virus program (the free version of AVG) and keep it updated, I don't install unknown crap and such and I have a good router which blocks any hackers or bots trying to infect my machine. My experience with software firewalls is that they universally SUCK and generally end up doing more harm than good. Especially Norton Internet Security. (although is there ANY current Norton product that DOESN'T suck?)
And I use SeaMonkey and not Intercrap Exploder. Oh and I disable autorun too which prevents nasty stuff from running if I plugged a flash drive or used a CD or whatever which had stuff on it that I don't want (such as anti-piracy rootkits included with music CDs).
And I disabled a bunch of crap that shouldn't be running such as Telnet.
Jonathan Wilson aka Jonwil
Creator and Lead Coder of the Custom scripts.dll
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| Re: What Do YOU Consider The Best Firewall And Why? [message #245173 is a reply to message #244835] |
Tue, 13 February 2007 17:03 |
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Incoming: a router. Everyone should have one; the only real threats are scans that then exploit you if you're not protected.
Outgoing: a software firewall. You only need outgoing protection if you install stuff you don't trust etc., or you're unsure about things generally - stuff like that. I'm behind a few JANET firewalls so nothing gets in and I know what I'm installing, so don't use a software firewall anymore.
I've used pretty much every software firewall there is, and Sygate Pro is the best. Not free, not sure if it's even developed still since I dont use it now - Sygate was bought out by Symantec (don't use Symantec's one).
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| Re: What Do YOU Consider The Best Firewall And Why? [message #245971 is a reply to message #245808] |
Mon, 19 February 2007 20:29 |
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ok just for all you people who think there safe becase 'i dont download porn' heres an article which might make you think twice HERE
also for you people who have trouble with ZA maybe you should actually look at your program. ZA has a function called automatic lock which blocks all traffic if left alone for a specified time or untill the screen saver comes on. To fix it open ZA Select Program Control | Main. In the Automatic Lock area, select On or Off. simple
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| Re: What Do YOU Consider The Best Firewall And Why? [message #263248 is a reply to message #244835] |
Tue, 05 June 2007 05:01 |
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My advice is to just stick with the router.
But if you DO want a firewall on your PC, whatever you do, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT get Norton Internet Security. In fact, DO NOT use anything from Norton/Symantec at all. Their products (their current ones anyway) are CRAP.
Mcafee aren't much better.
Can't say much about any of the other firewalls, never used them myself, I just have a router and that works great for keeping any rogue intrusions (hackers, trojans etc) out of my computer. And I have a good anti virus program (AVG anti virus) for finding any nasties that get in through other means.
Jonathan Wilson aka Jonwil
Creator and Lead Coder of the Custom scripts.dll
Renegade Engine Guru
Creator and Lead Coder of TT.DLL
Official member of Tiberian Technologies
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