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How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262136] Thu, 31 May 2007 00:43 Go to next message
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I want to have my own little mod that I could use to play in LAN games.

So, my question is, how do I make the Stealth Black Hand NOT stealth after buying the character? I don't want the invisibility kickin in.

Anyone know? Much thanks for help.

PS: Oh...please tell me what programs/utilities that I need. Thank you.
Re: How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262138 is a reply to message #262136] Thu, 31 May 2007 00:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One thing that is probably pointless, but a cool gimmick, would be to make the right-click activate or deactivate the cloak. Very Happy
Re: How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262140 is a reply to message #262136] Thu, 31 May 2007 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You need Level Edit,

Install it, Open it, Make a new Mod Package, And when your in Level Edit; Go to the Global Settings tab and highlight the "General" tab, Then click "Mod", Go to the setting's tab and scroll down, You'll see a "Stealth Distance Human" Just set that to 00.00 and Viola. Smile


Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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Or if both, client and server, use the mod, you can simply edit the SBH soldier preset and uncheck IsStealth.

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and to be double sure do both ideas Very Happy
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Alex wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 02:51

You need Level Edit,

Install it, Open it, Make a new Mod Package, And when your in Level Edit; Go to the Global Settings tab and highlight the "General" tab, Then click "Mod", Go to the setting's tab and scroll down, You'll see a "Stealth Distance Human" Just set that to 00.00 and Viola. Smile


I forgot to add this:

After you've done all that, Go to: C:\Program Files\RenegadePublicTools\LevelEdit\(Mod Name)\presets folder and find the objects.ddb, Put that in your mod package or map and Viola.

Blush


Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
Re: How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262195 is a reply to message #262169] Thu, 31 May 2007 05:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks a lot everyone! Thank you Alex for being very through and replying quickly. Thumbs Up

Now my only question is where do I download LevelEdit from? I went here to the RenHelp site but the installation is not working:
http://renhelp.net/index.php?load=Downloads&

I downloaded Jonwil's LevelEdit...should I unzip it into the Renegade directory and then run it?

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Re: How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262232 is a reply to message #262136] Thu, 31 May 2007 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't be caught using this on XWIS servers though >_>


'tis a bannable offense -.-


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joe937465 wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 04:53

and to be double sure do both ideas Very Happy


This coming from the guy who has asked a bunch of questions himself <_<

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Re: How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262234 is a reply to message #262232] Thu, 31 May 2007 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 18:30

Don't be caught using this on XWIS servers though >_>


'tis a bannable offense -.-


erm... why?


Re: How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262235 is a reply to message #262234] Thu, 31 May 2007 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 10:42

MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 18:30

Don't be caught using this on XWIS servers though >_>


'tis a bannable offense -.-


erm... why?



Erm, stealth hack >_>

-MathK1LL
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IronBalls wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 08:54

Thanks a lot everyone! Thank you Alex for being very through and replying quickly. Thumbs Up

Now my only question is where do I download LevelEdit from? I went here to the RenHelp site but the installation is not working:
http://renhelp.net/index.php?load=Downloads&

I downloaded Jonwil's LevelEdit...should I unzip it into the Renegade directory and then run it?


I checked the leveledit files, they are not corrupt and yes you should be using the Jonwil edition.


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Re: How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262240 is a reply to message #262235] Thu, 31 May 2007 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 18:49

Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 10:42

MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 18:30

Don't be caught using this on XWIS servers though >_>


'tis a bannable offense -.-


erm... why?



Erm, stealth hack >_>

-MathK1LL


No, stealth mod.


Re: How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262241 is a reply to message #262240] Thu, 31 May 2007 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 11:16

MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 18:49

Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 10:42

MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 18:30

Don't be caught using this on XWIS servers though >_>


'tis a bannable offense -.-


erm... why?



Erm, stealth hack >_>

-MathK1LL


No, stealth mod.



No, stealth hack. If you use it in a public server. >_>


-MathK1LL

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Re: How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262243 is a reply to message #262241] Thu, 31 May 2007 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 19:19

Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 11:16

MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 18:49

Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 10:42

MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 18:30

Don't be caught using this on XWIS servers though >_>


'tis a bannable offense -.-


erm... why?



Erm, stealth hack >_>

-MathK1LL


No, stealth mod.



No, stealth hack. If you use it in a public server. >_>


-MathK1LL


A normal stealth mod, as he requests it, cannot be used on public servers, except if he do other things to make it a cheat, which is not necessary since the stealth cheat is one of the oldest Renegade cheats available.


Re: How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262244 is a reply to message #262147] Thu, 31 May 2007 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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*too may quoted quotes* =/

Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 02:46

Or if both, client and server, use the mod, you can simply edit the SBH soldier preset and uncheck IsStealth.



=/ I was referring to that. Sorry I didn't make myself clear Sad


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MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 19:34

*too may quoted quotes* =/

Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 02:46

Or if both, client and server, use the mod, you can simply edit the SBH soldier preset and uncheck IsStealth.



=/ I was referring to that. Sorry I didn't make myself clear Sad


-MathK1LL


This still does not change that it is a mod and should not effect playing on public servers. Wink


Re: How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262249 is a reply to message #262245] Thu, 31 May 2007 11:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 11:37

MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 19:34

*too may quoted quotes* =/

Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 02:46

Or if both, client and server, use the mod, you can simply edit the SBH soldier preset and uncheck IsStealth.



=/ I was referring to that. Sorry I didn't make myself clear Sad


-MathK1LL


This still does not change that it is a mod and should not effect playing on public servers. Wink



objects.ddb is a presets file >_> It contains settings that modify the game, yes. But it affects all aspects of the game, including online play.


-MathK1LL

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MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 20:25

Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 11:37

MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 19:34

*too may quoted quotes* =/

Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 02:46

Or if both, client and server, use the mod, you can simply edit the SBH soldier preset and uncheck IsStealth.



=/ I was referring to that. Sorry I didn't make myself clear Sad


-MathK1LL


This still does not change that it is a mod and should not effect playing on public servers. Wink



objects.ddb is a presets file >_> It contains settings that modify the game, yes. But it affects all aspects of the game, including online play.


-MathK1LL


The objects.ddb is not the only preset file. Other preset files are, for example, *.cdb, *.tdb, *.lsd, *.ldd. Presets can exist per-game (objects.ddb from always.dbs), per-mod (objects.ddb from *.pkg) and per-map (*.ddb from *.mix). If the client really has a modified per-game objects.ddb, the server would not let him in unless he 'cheats' himself in.


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Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 13:10

the server would not let him in unless he 'cheats' himself in.



The server lets anyone in that can load/has the map it's currently playing...RenGuard simply wouldn't let him play with RG on/enabled.

*edit* Correcting a misspelling of mine =/
MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 11:34

*too many quoted quotes* =/



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P.S.

I think the *original* question has been answered, so, can a mod please lock this topic?

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MathK1LL wrote on Fri, 01 June 2007 00:38

Yrr wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 13:10

the server would not let him in unless he 'cheats' himself in.



The server lets anyone in that can load/has the map it's currently playing...RenGuard simply wouldn't let him play with RG on/enabled.


The server doesn't let players with a modified objects.ddb in.


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MathK1LL wrote on Thu, 31 May 2007 16:38

P.S.

I think the *original* question has been answered, so, can a mod please lock this topic?



^^

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Re: How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262323 is a reply to message #262305] Thu, 31 May 2007 21:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please don't lock this topic!

I downloaded LevelEdit from Reborn's link and it works! So thank you!
But I have trouble finding where the various settings and tabs are...I am going to experiment with it tommorrow and will post any questions here if necessary.

Also, I want to make it very clear that this "mod" is for my personal fun only. I got the idea of doing this whlie playing a Marathon in Goku's Marathon server (the best server!).

So, I bought an SBH in the game but due to lag, I think, the SBH's suit remained unstealthed for almost 4 seconds! The suit was a bright lovely red/silver...but immediately after that, the invisibility kicked in.

So I thought to myself how beautiful the paint job is on the SBH (when uncloaked) and so I got the idea for this mini-mod.

There are maps that I have not fully mastered like Glacier Flying: I plan to use this mod in a singleplayer (just myself) LAN game to explore all the passages and tricks of Glacier Flying. I thought it would be fun exploring it while being an uncloaked SBH because he looks so nice!

So, I hope this clarifies any doubts as to my intentions! Also, next to snakes, the most disgusting thing to me is cheating. I am not even going to go there or EVEN talk about it. And thank you for telling me: I will remove this mod from my Renegade directory when choosing to playing online.

I will post any questions here that I have about LevelEdit since I am new to modding. Thank you all for your help and advices. Thumbs Up

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Re: How do I make the SBH remain as unstealthed? [message #262335 is a reply to message #262136] Thu, 31 May 2007 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I would open level edit now, But I'm playing America's Army, And the training Missions are a joke, So i'mnot going to risk my pc crasing. ¬_¬

Okay, After you install Level edit, Just the normal one, Open it.

(JohnWils Versin fixes a few bugs, And You don't need it seeing that your not doing anyhing advanced so it shouldn't crash.)

On your left (after you opened Level Edit) You should see a few things.

Look down for "Global Presets" (Something similar) and click the "-" icon next to it.

Now a drop down list appeared! Look for "Global" And hit the "-" thing again, Now you see a Paper icon and the words "Global" next to it, Click it to Highlight it and click the "Mod" Button and now a screen has appeared! Click the "Settings" tab and scroll down till you see "Stealth Human Distance" and set it's value to 00.00

Click OK!

Now click the X button on your top right hand corner and it will ask you to save some pesets, Hit yes.

Now go to C:\Program Files\RenegadePublicTools\LevelEdit\(Mod Name)\Presets\ , And find the objects.ddb file, Put that in your .pkg or .mix and viola!

If any wrds or letters are missing, Blame AA for lagging my pc. !


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