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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259204 is a reply to message #259200] |
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Very deep.
Why do you dislike Tony Blair? I'm not English but I think he's a very good person, and has done some great things for the UK in his term.
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259212 is a reply to message #259200] |
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259224 is a reply to message #259208] |
Thu, 17 May 2007 18:13 |
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| FrAM wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 18:57 |
dude he went to iraq for oil and to keep bush's dick in his mouth...
he isnt a great prime minister eh is just a pussy
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The Iraq war was necessary even if it was for oil. Saddam was a paranoid and viscious dictator who murdered millions of his own people.
You really are quite ignorant on the subject.
| u6795 wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 18:38 |
Very deep.
Why do you dislike Tony Blair? I'm not English but I think he's a very good person, and has done some great things for the UK in his term.
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You're from Georgia, all you'll know about Britain is what you read/hear from your neo-conservative or liberal (assuming you're one of the two previous ideologies) news sources.
But like all PMs he did have his ups and downs.
this is more common than the self-diagnosis of asperger's in the goon population how is it obsCURE FUCKKK
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259238 is a reply to message #259224] |
Thu, 17 May 2007 18:59 |
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| tzarmind wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 21:13 |
| FrAM wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 18:57 |
dude he went to iraq for oil and to keep bush's dick in his mouth...
he isnt a great prime minister eh is just a pussy
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The Iraq war was necessary even if it was for oil. Saddam was a paranoid and viscious dictator who murdered millions of his own people.
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Now that's got to be the most bullshitest thing I ever heard. Saddam killed only those who stood against him...what else do you expect a dictator to do? Kiss his citizens?
This whole BULLSHIT about Saddam is all exaggerated...yes, he was a bad man and he tortured those who stood against him but the figures are more exaggerated by Western media.
I like Bush but think of all the lives lost due to his decision to screw Iraq.
And Saddam killed thousands...not millions.
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259265 is a reply to message #259238] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 00:13 |
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| IronBalls wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 20:59 |
| tzarmind wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 21:13 |
| FrAM wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 18:57 |
dude he went to iraq for oil and to keep bush's dick in his mouth...
he isnt a great prime minister eh is just a pussy
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The Iraq war was necessary even if it was for oil. Saddam was a paranoid and viscious dictator who murdered millions of his own people.
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Now that's got to be the most bullshitest thing I ever heard. Saddam killed only those who stood against him...what else do you expect a dictator to do? Kiss his citizens?
This whole BULLSHIT about Saddam is all exaggerated...yes, he was a bad man and he tortured those who stood against him but the figures are more exaggerated by Western media.
I like Bush but think of all the lives lost due to his decision to screw Iraq.
And Saddam killed thousands...not millions.
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Well I'm glad to see you have a very good handle on the case. Because well, I'm sure all those sources with pictures of thousands upon thousands of corpses being pulled out of the ground are just exaggerated. Or the FACT that people would disappear forever for going 5 over the speed limit.
I forgot facts and sources are useless when it comes to concluding anything.
You always come out to reinforce to everyone how stupid you are with a monumentally retarded post.
this is more common than the self-diagnosis of asperger's in the goon population how is it obsCURE FUCKKK
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259267 is a reply to message #259208] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 00:24 |
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| FrAM wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 18:57 |
dude he went to iraq for oil and to keep bush's dick in his mouth...
he isnt a great prime minister eh is just a pussy
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You sound like an left wing peace loving tree hugging pile of shit. 
Please leave my great country. 
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259313 is a reply to message #259265] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 08:29 |
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| tzarmind wrote on Fri, 18 May 2007 03:13 |
| IronBalls wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 20:59 |
| tzarmind wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 21:13 |
| FrAM wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 18:57 |
dude he went to iraq for oil and to keep bush's dick in his mouth...
he isnt a great prime minister eh is just a pussy
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The Iraq war was necessary even if it was for oil. Saddam was a paranoid and viscious dictator who murdered millions of his own people.
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Now that's got to be the most bullshitest thing I ever heard. Saddam killed only those who stood against him...what else do you expect a dictator to do? Kiss his citizens?
This whole BULLSHIT about Saddam is all exaggerated...yes, he was a bad man and he tortured those who stood against him but the figures are more exaggerated by Western media.
I like Bush but think of all the lives lost due to his decision to screw Iraq.
And Saddam killed thousands...not millions.
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Well I'm glad to see you have a very good handle on the case. Because well, I'm sure all those sources with pictures of thousands upon thousands of corpses being pulled out of the ground are just exaggerated. Or the FACT that people would disappear forever for going 5 over the speed limit.
I forgot facts and sources are useless when it comes to concluding anything.
You always come out to reinforce to everyone how stupid you are with a monumentally retarded post.
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I knew I will get such a reply from you all. You people never accept any comments/suggestions, eh? Stubborn pigs...good luck winning in Iraq cuz you already lost.
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259316 is a reply to message #259313] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 09:09 |
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| IronBalls wrote on Fri, 18 May 2007 11:29 |
| tzarmind wrote on Fri, 18 May 2007 03:13 |
| IronBalls wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 20:59 |
| tzarmind wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 21:13 |
| FrAM wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 18:57 |
dude he went to iraq for oil and to keep bush's dick in his mouth...
he isnt a great prime minister eh is just a pussy
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The Iraq war was necessary even if it was for oil. Saddam was a paranoid and viscious dictator who murdered millions of his own people.
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Now that's got to be the most bullshitest thing I ever heard. Saddam killed only those who stood against him...what else do you expect a dictator to do? Kiss his citizens?
This whole BULLSHIT about Saddam is all exaggerated...yes, he was a bad man and he tortured those who stood against him but the figures are more exaggerated by Western media.
I like Bush but think of all the lives lost due to his decision to screw Iraq.
And Saddam killed thousands...not millions.
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Well I'm glad to see you have a very good handle on the case. Because well, I'm sure all those sources with pictures of thousands upon thousands of corpses being pulled out of the ground are just exaggerated. Or the FACT that people would disappear forever for going 5 over the speed limit.
I forgot facts and sources are useless when it comes to concluding anything.
You always come out to reinforce to everyone how stupid you are with a monumentally retarded post.
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I knew I will get such a reply from you all. You people never accept any comments/suggestions, eh? Stubborn pigs...good luck winning in Iraq cuz you already lost.
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You make me laugh.
Even if Saddam only killed those who opposed him, how the fuck can you justify that? He's still killing his citizens simply because they disagreed with him. You don't see that happening in American politics. You're not seeing Democrats being executed left and right and tortured simply because they oppose the Bush administration, do you? No, I didn't think so.
There's no fucking way you can justify killing millions of people because they simply oppose you. Give me a break.
whoa.
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259326 is a reply to message #259200] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 10:29 |
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Liberating a country from an authoritarian government to a democratic government, from a dictator who abused his own people even his own followers, used chemical weapons against his own Iraqi citizens, and brought geopolitical instability to the entire Middle East ............... is not an evil "oil driven" campaign. Hell, our oil prices in the U.S. are going up real high again, not down.
When you look through history, there are countries who harbor terrorists or ideologies of violence - and they've always been met with opposition. In the last 20 years or so, however, there have been very few nations that have had the gonads to say "we're going to do something about the Middle East". The U.S. and U.K. were two nations that stood close to each other and I can tell you that U.S. citizens were quiet pleased to see this sort of alliance.
I've served 5+ years in the U.S. military, proudly, and in the intelligence community. I had absolutely no choice whatsoever in the fact that I had to read military intelligence (both local and global) from a read board, daily. And some of the things I read just simply disgusted me.
I am not saying that mistakes haven't been made or that the tail end of the operation was completed properly -- because there are many opposing perspectives that I do agree with. But generally speaking, this truely was a justified war, and anyone with their noses outside of a public newspaper would know that.
I'm not here to flame one side or the other, but I really wish that people would take the time to research the events that lead up to this war, the events of the war, and the events following the war; rather than simply assuming what political agendas were and that it was the motivation for the war: it's simply absurd.
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259376 is a reply to message #259200] |
Fri, 18 May 2007 16:40 |
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one point though... the way i see it if they really want a change they will make it happen... look at the revolution in russia... prime example of the people making it happen.
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259445 is a reply to message #259387] |
Sat, 19 May 2007 03:13 |
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There have been enough posts and topics on Iraq.
Lets keep on the topic of Tony Blair. If you are American and can ONLY spout BS then stay the fuck out of the topic. After-all that is what you tell the Brits when we reply to your posts on the US Goverment.
Back on topic. What has Tony Blair did for the UK (except Iraq)?
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259608 is a reply to message #259470] |
Sat, 19 May 2007 20:10 |
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| gamemodding wrote on Sat, 19 May 2007 07:33 |
| puddle_splasher wrote on Sat, 19 May 2007 11:13 |
Back on topic. What has Tony Blair did for the UK (except Iraq)?
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- Made taxes go up.
- underpaid the NHS.
- underpaid schools.
- forcing children to go to school.
- made it possible to sue for just about anything.
- Made it hard for me to fly my model airplane.
- Speed cameras (which cause crashes, just for more money).
- Allows anyone to just walk into the county then provide them with everything
- Allowed someone to die, with just giving the killer "dangerous driving without due care and attention"
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Taxes went up for the government to manage the country I believe. Schools are underpaid for a reason.. I don't know why though.  Children are forced to go to school for a reason... to learn. You people insult us in being "STUPID!" and "FAT", and schools are suppose to oppose to that. But complaining that the government is forcing children to go to school as that argument going on... just no. We need to be as smart as possible to live a well managed life. The sue thing... I know, it's bullcrap. Most Americans wished that people won't sue for pointless things.
Umm... how did US make it hard for you to fly a model airplane, and how the heck can a speed camera cause crashes?
We don't purposely allow just anyone to walk into the country! we have country border guards everywhere near mexico! Although we are the melting pot of the world, terrorism happens seldomly. I don't know what you are talking about. But perhaps the police didn't know that the killer wasn't a killer? Yeah...
If you notice, this is mostly (or all) the governments fault. It's true, a lot of Americans hate their own government. There is a bunch of conspiracies that someone cracked the ballots and had bush when, but then... kerry is also a ass.
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259621 is a reply to message #259200] |
Sat, 19 May 2007 23:44 |
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I don't know much about the education situation over there, but requiring children to attend school until they're 16 or so (18 if I had it my way) is a good idea.
Speed cameras don't cause accidents here, so I don't see why they'd cause accidents there. Plus if you slam on you breaks because of a speed camera, it wasn't the cameras fault - it was your fault for speeding in the first place.
The transmitter thing is debatable, but considering you're a much smaller landmass I can kinda understand the law.
As for the topic itself, I can't say much about Tony Blair other than the following:
The US citizens truely appreciate the alliance and comradery of the British people and their leadership. I know that many nations have been arguing about what to do about this and that - but I can tell you as a U.S. citizen that I've never run across another citizen that wasn't happy with Britain and their support for our sacrifices in the war. Rather than focusing on the bad things, nations are close as ours need to start focusing on the positive advances. Blair wasn't necessarily bad in that area: he did what he felt needed to be done and it was very much appreciated by the American people. I know he is your leader and not ours, but all things considered he wasn't a bad guy at all.
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259626 is a reply to message #259621] |
Sun, 20 May 2007 00:36 |
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| fl00d3d wrote on Sun, 20 May 2007 01:44 |
Plus if you slam on you breaks because of a speed camera, it wasn't the cameras fault - it was your fault for speeding in the first place.
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Speed cameras have been erected in the UK as a means to generate money for the Local Authority and not for the Police (They only enforce the penalty).
Generally speaking the cameras were supposed to be erected in places where there were at least one fatality or 2 serious pedestrian accidents. We all know that this is not the case. The cameras are mounted everywhere and even if people are travelling at the correct speed, particularly on a dual carriageway, there is a tendency to slap on the brakes from 70 mph to 60 mph or less, thus the driver behind brakes and so on down the queue until BANG! CRASH! there is an accident.
Speed cameras are in fact proven beyond reasonable doubt to be causing crashes and some Local Authorities were forced to remove them and to have the total amount of cameras capped at a specific level until further notice.
All this in the name of Blair. Keep in mind that he is but a puppet. He can stand and talk, sure he can but so does a ventriloquists dummy who also has the strings pulled for it.
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| Re: tony blair steps down [message #259694 is a reply to message #259470] |
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| gamemodding wrote on Sat, 19 May 2007 15:33 |
| puddle_splasher wrote on Sat, 19 May 2007 11:13 |
Back on topic. What has Tony Blair did for the UK (except Iraq)?
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- Made taxes go up.
- underpaid the NHS.
- underpaid schools.
- forcing children to go to school.
- made it possible to sue for just about anything.
- Made it hard for me to fly my model airplane.
- Speed cameras (which cause crashes, just for more money).
- Allows anyone to just walk into the county then provide them with everything
- Allowed someone to die, with just giving the killer "dangerous driving without due care and attention"
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