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Renegade and History [message #256581] Mon, 30 April 2007 17:46 Go to next message
Sn1per74* is currently offline  Sn1per74*
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I thought this was interesting. I've been learning about WWI in my history class. My teacher began talking about The Black Hand, I had no idea The Black Hand had anything to do with history. Anyhoo, The Black Hand was an organization to rid Bosnia of Austrian rule. Members of the Black Hand figured out that Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne was coming into town. Even more upsetting to them was that he was coming on a holiday in Serbia- the day of Serbia's conquest of the Turks. Seven members of the Black Hand were chosen to assasinate the Archduke. They were chosen because they all had tuberculosis(TB) and were going to die anyway. They were each given a revolver, a bottle of cyanide, and two grenades. At first, the assasination attempt was unsuccessful- the driver got the Archduke out of harms way. Then, one of the members, a 17 or 19 year old ( I forget) named Gavrilo Princip, was walking the streets and saw the carriage again. He pulled out his revolver and shot into the carriage killing the Archduke and his wife, Sophia. He then turned the gun on himself, but people hearing the shots ran toward him and prevented him from shooting himself. He had no regrets other than that he shot the Archduke's wife. This assassination led to the start of WWI.
- I thought this was interesting that the Black Hand was history based.


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Re: Renegade and History [message #256589 is a reply to message #256581] Mon, 30 April 2007 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Renegade and History [message #256600 is a reply to message #256581] Mon, 30 April 2007 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, you will find alot alot of real life stuff in games, if you look for it, you find it. Satisfied Nod
Re: Renegade and History [message #256609 is a reply to message #256600] Tue, 01 May 2007 01:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Check out some names from C&C, Mobius, Tezla etc. They were once alive. Big Ups

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Re: Renegade and History [message #256627 is a reply to message #256609] Tue, 01 May 2007 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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puddle_splasher wrote on Tue, 01 May 2007 02:00

Check out some names from C&C, Mobius, Tezla etc. They were once alive. Big Ups

Tesla did make a Tesla Coil, it does discharge energy into the air, but unlike Red Alerts, it does not target objects, the energy simply tries to ground itself to the nearest object.

Westwood was good about linking their games together, C&C95 and Red Alert (RA’s ending movie). Red Alert 2 to 1 (one picture in the game, Yuri and Stalin). Tib sun with C&C95 (old vehicles and buildings scattered through out the game). Fire storm to Tib Sun (these connections are obvious). RA2 and Yuri’s Revenge (these connections are also obvious). But then EA stepped in and look what we got, Generals & CnC3 (although CnC3 is actually somewhat related, although you have to read a lot to figure out what the heck happened to GDI’s improving technology, and tiberium (but there is no real good explanation for why it went from weed, plant life, and trees the sprayed it around to simple crystals that come out of holes in the ground)).
*looks back up at the topic* I just went a little off track there.


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Re: Renegade and History [message #256639 is a reply to message #256627] Tue, 01 May 2007 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They have the Black Hand/Eastern Europe historical connection if you noticed while playing the Renegade single player missions and in the game manual.

Locke in the manual says that the Black Hand has struck in Eastern Europe.



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Re: Renegade and History [message #256661 is a reply to message #256581] Tue, 01 May 2007 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kane comes from the Bible BTW. (Link: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=4&version=9 )

It's spelled differently, but it's supposed to be the same person I think. This is why in C&C95 you get orders from Seth, because Seth was the son of Kane. And as you can see, Kane was sent to the land of Nod. Listen


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Re: Renegade and History [message #256666 is a reply to message #256581] Tue, 01 May 2007 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Funny you brought this up, was thinking about this a few weeks ago, heres a few facts:

1)I was born in Sarajevo, (Bosnia) where the assasination took place, so it was the blackhand.
2)The CFL football team in Ottawa are called the Renegades,
http://slam.canoe.ca/Renegades/home.html
3)I got the game from trooprm1, who is also from bosnia, and we had no idea of any of this In Love


Re: Renegade and History [message #256704 is a reply to message #256661] Tue, 01 May 2007 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rm5248 wrote on Tue, 01 May 2007 16:19

Seth was the son of Kane.

Well, in the Bible, Seth is Cain's brother. Enoch is Cain's first-born son, though.

As for the Renegades team, whoopty do. Renegade isn't an uncommon word.


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Re: Renegade and History [message #256716 is a reply to message #256704] Tue, 01 May 2007 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's a jeep called Renegade Big Grin

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Re: Renegade and History [message #256733 is a reply to message #256581] Wed, 02 May 2007 00:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Renegade and History [message #256736 is a reply to message #256627] Wed, 02 May 2007 01:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerad Gray wrote on Tue, 01 May 2007 11:41


*looks back up at the topic* I just went a little off track there.



You most certainly did. Sarcasm

Re: Renegade and History [message #256896 is a reply to message #256581] Wed, 02 May 2007 21:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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black hand assassins, one hit kills, secret and deadly... reminds me of myself

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Re: Renegade and History [message #256899 is a reply to message #256581] Wed, 02 May 2007 21:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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funny right after i learned this same stuff in my history, my first thought was holy shit i didnt think the black hand was real, very cool.
Re: Renegade and History [message #257997 is a reply to message #256581] Wed, 09 May 2007 17:29 Go to previous message
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hmm they shouldve done what the brotherhood of nod done:give princip a sniper rifle,a pistol, and a timed c4 Big Grin

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