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| Re: Religion discussion from "Meaning of Life" thread [message #256065 is a reply to message #256031] |
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| Rocko wrote on Thu, 26 April 2007 23:56 |
| gbull wrote on Thu, 26 April 2007 13:16 |
Although it shouldn't be forced, Christians have a duty to tell others what they know. I forget where in the Bible, but I believe there was a verse that stated if someone knows God and doesn't tell unbelievers, then Judgment awaits him. If he tells an unbeliever and the unbeliever does not Invite God into their heart, Judgment is on them.
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Seems like people are better off not knowing about it at all then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj1KGZSFmfs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53dvNtp8Njw
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WORM, Who is threatening you? The blood of Jesus Christ is for you. Hwo dreadful it will be for those who treat what is Holy as unholy. Jesus died for your sins and this is the way you say thanks. What do you think it will be like for all those who have rejected Him now and in the time to come. I'm sure you have a bible in your home open to Hebrews 10 and read. Then repent and ask God into your heart and into your family for healing.
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-one of the comments made on second video
Extreme religious people are for the win
*edit* Yeah the second video is in bad taste. Just saying that response is so typical.
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It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Religion discussion from "Meaning of Life" thread [message #256194 is a reply to message #255920] |
Sat, 28 April 2007 00:37 |
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| IronBalls wrote on Thu, 26 April 2007 13:49 |
I have a strong eternal relationship with Jesus Christ. I fear God...this keeps me for commiting more sins and keeping the relationship positive. Christianity is not a religion, it's a relationship and the more you fear God, the closer you will stay with Him.
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If you fear God, you do not have a strong eternal relationship with him.. You have a limited Temporal relationship that ends when he either strikes you down, or you die of natural causes and realize that you didn’t understand at all what he asked of you.
| IronBalls wrote on Thu, 26 April 2007 13:49 |
So in other words, I want to ease your suspicion that I, IronBalls, maybe a fake Christian who is just rambling Bible verses. No, I am not a fake...and I believe God is scrutinizing me right now as I write this post. So, He knows if I am a liar or not...if I am a cheat or not. He knows EVERYTHING about me. I know that I will pay the severe price if I lied. So, please understand.
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God is scrutinizing you, he knows if you are or aren’t a liar, he knows if you are or aren’t a cheat, and he also knows if you truly believe in him or are simply afraid of what “might” happen to you if you don’t. “God Fearing Christians” are about the fakest type there are.. They don’t understand what God has asked them to do, and they don’t truly understand the meaning of the sacrifice he made for them.
If your own father beat the shit out of you ever day and threatened to make you spend the rest of your life in a dungeon if you didn’t listen to him.. You wouldn’t have a loving, compassionate relationship with him either.. You would just do what he says for fear of the consequences.
That isn’t at all what God has asked of you.
| IronBalls wrote on Thu, 26 April 2007 13:49 |
Also, the only reason that I repetedly keep posting in these hot topics (and in many other forums in the web) is to defend my faith and because I am not afraid. Also, it would be a crime, for me as a Christian, if I held my peace.
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It is a crime for you as a Christian to attempt to bring others to God through fear..
Besides, you would be far more successful if you would just explain the loving relationship one can have with God, and how he can bring joy and meaning to their lives.
I don’t fear God at all.. he knows what is in my heart.. I don’t have to make superficial attempts at pleasing him.. he isn’t striking notches in the bedpost when I tell someone about him.
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| Re: Religion discussion from "Meaning of Life" thread [message #256216 is a reply to message #256211] |
Sat, 28 April 2007 06:18 |
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| MexPirate wrote on Sat, 28 April 2007 08:49 |
| msgtpain wrote on Sat, 28 April 2007 02:37 |
My interpretation & beliefs are right and yours are wrong
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I don't believe in God but I can see that you have completely missed any point Ironballs was trying to make, nothing you said has any relevance to anything he posted.
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You can believe in God, or not believe in God; I could care less... but if your a Christian simply because your scared to death of what's going to happen when you die, then you've missed the point, not me.
You'll never see me telling you that you should believe in God, or that you're going to hell if you don't... But if you want to believe in God, you might as well do it for the right reason... Christianity is about a man suffering for your sins, so that you might live eternal bliss.. He didnt' do it to scare the shit out of you and threaten into doing what he wants. If the only reason you don't "sin" is because you're afraid of what might happen.. then you might as well sin.. God knows the intentions of your heart.
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| Re: Religion discussion from "Meaning of Life" thread [message #256266 is a reply to message #256260] |
Sat, 28 April 2007 14:13 |
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Christ payed for the sins of man through the atonement in the garden, and through death on the cross. it wasn't simply an "execution" that accomplished this.
to receive the benefits of this, you must repent of your sins as well as forgive those who have sinned against you. in theory, this is how you transfer those sins to him to bare.
if you recognize the need to repent, it can be safely assumed that you believe in him. according to Christianity, if you do not repent of your sins, Christ does not bare those burdens for you.
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| Re: Religion discussion from "Meaning of Life" thread [message #256271 is a reply to message #255920] |
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| Re: Religion discussion from "Meaning of Life" thread [message #256272 is a reply to message #256270] |
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| gamemodding wrote on Sat, 28 April 2007 17:29 |
I have felt remorseful about a lot of things i have done. I still cannot belive in God, it's not that i choose not to. It's because i simply can't.
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whether or not you believe in God, you still have a conscience...
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| Re: Religion discussion from "Meaning of Life" thread [message #267609 is a reply to message #267607] |
Wed, 20 June 2007 20:35 |
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| IronWarrior wrote on Thu, 21 June 2007 15:04 |
Religion has been the reason for most wars and the hate in the world all though time.
What little good that comes out from it, is nothing compared to the hate and death from the evil side.
Case closed.
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Guns kill people, knives kill people, I therefore declare all guns and knives to be evil in nature.
Doesn't work the same does it? I'm not defending some of the things done in the name of religion, and I'm not saying it's perfect but there's a difference between religion and faith.
Anything can be abused, religion is no different, and it's true that humans are flawed creations, so no religion is perfect but I don't agree that you purely blame religion for wars, just like you can't blame knives for deaths.
My anaolgy isn't 100% concrete, I know that, just trying to get you to look at things from a different angle
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| Re: Religion discussion from "Meaning of Life" thread [message #267742 is a reply to message #267609] |
Thu, 21 June 2007 08:27 |
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| light wrote on Wed, 20 June 2007 22:35 |
| IronWarrior wrote on Thu, 21 June 2007 15:04 |
Religion has been the reason for most wars and the hate in the world all though time.
What little good that comes out from it, is nothing compared to the hate and death from the evil side.
Case closed.
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Guns kill people, knives kill people, I therefore declare all guns and knives to be evil in nature.
Doesn't work the same does it? I'm not defending some of the things done in the name of religion, and I'm not saying it's perfect but there's a difference between religion and faith.
Anything can be abused, religion is no different, and it's true that humans are flawed creations, so no religion is perfect but I don't agree that you purely blame religion for wars, just like you can't blame knives for deaths.
My anaolgy isn't 100% concrete, I know that, just trying to get you to look at things from a different angle
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I do see your point, but as you said, the anaology is not really concrete.
It seems in this world, we always try to blame our problems on everything else other then the problem itself, which doesnt get us anywhere.
There is many good things that come out of religion, yes, have to agree there, but trying to kid yourself that religion doesnt cause more harm then it does good, is just silly, the idea behide religion for the good, is nice and all and I welcome it.
But, in the end, its the root of most of the worlds problems, you only need to look at iraq, middle easy for the last, what?, 2000 years.
/me wonders if that area of the world has ever known peace?
As the gun only has one mission ni its life and thats to kill, wouldnt you call that evil incarnate?
Today, the gun has many users, for hunting, sport, fun, but the main reason we inverted the gun was to kill people, so I would call a gun, evil.
A knife, well thats yes and no, we use knifes in our every day life for eating, cutting up meat and other peaceful jobs.
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