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Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255042 is a reply to message #255023] Sun, 22 April 2007 03:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
puddle_splasher is currently offline  puddle_splasher
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I will ask the obvious and reply later.

Why do you all need a gun if you are all law abiding citizens?
Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255062 is a reply to message #254284] Sun, 22 April 2007 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why would you rather only the non law abiding citizens have fire-arms?

Personally, I have them because they're "fun".. Sure, they could protect me or my family if needed, but I honestly don't ever expect to be in a scenario which would require that. No, I actually just like to go out to the woods and shoot them. I own three handguns: A S&W 9mm, a Stainless H&K USP 45, and a Sig Sauer P229 Equinox 40 cal.

You can say that there is no point, but unless you've actually done it, I would respond that it's just an ignorant comment. I have an Italian brother-in-law who had never held a handgun in his life. He used to make the same types of comments, ask the same "obvious" questions as to why American's needed to be "cowboys".. However, when he came to the States 2 years ago, we took him out for the day. After that, he was hooked. he had never imagined that shooting at a paper circle on a tree, or a pop can could actually be so much fun.
Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255066 is a reply to message #255042] Sun, 22 April 2007 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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puddle_splasher wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 06:19

I will ask the obvious and reply later.

Why do you all need a gun if you are all law abiding citizens?

Uhh... I don't know. That's a really really goo- err fucking stupid question.

Like msgtpain said, he enjoys owning guns for the recreation. Shooting at targets can be stress relief or just a fun sport to you. Shooting at a target doesn't necessarily mean you're going to use a gun outside of range shooting.

Others want to own a gun for protection. They feel more safe knowing that they have a way to fight back if someone attacks. Plus, if people know or think you have a gun, they're less likely to want to attack you. Unless you're suicidal, I'm pretty sure you'll stay away from someone if they're packing heat.

There are people who own guns for the joy of hunting. I don't think I have to explain the reason for that...

Then there are people who own guns for all or a mixture of the three reasons.

Why give up our liberties just because we're "law abiding citizens"? Sure, I'm not planning on building bombs and killing people with them, but I don't want the FBI to know what books I've checked out at the local library. I have no terrorist attacks in the making, but I don't want to have my conversations to be recorded.

I don't want to give up my right to bear arms because I don't have any plans to shoot people unless forced to by having my rights encroached on. I'm a citizen, and I own property. It's my right to protect myself and my property. Once I'm a home owner, you bet that I'll be owning a gun. I want it for safety, and I enjoy guns, so I'll probably use it for recreation.



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Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255074 is a reply to message #254284] Sun, 22 April 2007 09:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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His homework.. Huh
Interesting story.
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Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255091 is a reply to message #254284] Sun, 22 April 2007 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's hard to believe he was even in college. His writing sucks.

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Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255102 is a reply to message #254284] Sun, 22 April 2007 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, he was a Korean-born student learning English. He's not going to be writing a non-native language at a college level.

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Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255111 is a reply to message #254284] Sun, 22 April 2007 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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True.

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Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255112 is a reply to message #255102] Sun, 22 April 2007 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yea, I know that I wouldn't expect someone to actually be able to write College Level English as a College Senior; especially if they had only been in the country for 16 years...
Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255175 is a reply to message #254284] Sun, 22 April 2007 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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While on Holiday in the shop with my homie (haha, just a inside joke) I seen the news paper and the main headline was

"Virgina Tech Massacre, 33 DEAD." When I got back to our camper van I put the news on, Then seen more about it.

News paper said; "After being sacked off by his girl friend, He killed his ex-girlfriend then went on to find her boy friend and killed him, Then made the peeps in the classroom stand up against the wall and executed them one by one."

I was like "What the fack! dude read this!" then put the tele on and seen it all, Tho the news on the tv told a different story, His room mates also said he was obsessed with some song, Didn't catch the name, Was a crappy song imo.

32 People, This guy must have been seriously pissed.


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Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255177 is a reply to message #255074] Sun, 22 April 2007 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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spazbeast wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 09:23

His homework.. Huh
Interesting story.
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That's one of the most fucked-up stories I have ever read.
Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255178 is a reply to message #254284] Sun, 22 April 2007 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Read the other: Mr. Brownstone.
Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255181 is a reply to message #255112] Sun, 22 April 2007 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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msgtpain wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 14:26

yea, I know that I wouldn't expect someone to actually be able to write College Level English as a College Senior; especially if they had only been in the country for 16 years...

You mean like a 16-year-old American born here? You sure have high standards for kids.


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Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255207 is a reply to message #255181] Mon, 23 April 2007 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SpyGuy246 wrote on Mon, 23 April 2007 01:43

msgtpain wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 14:26

yea, I know that I wouldn't expect someone to actually be able to write College Level English as a College Senior; especially if they had only been in the country for 16 years...

You mean like a 16-year-old American born here? You sure have high standards for kids.

Do you agree with signs being posted in several languages, too?

If he was in the country for 16 years, I don't see why it's such a stretch to think that one should have a good grasp on the language that country speaks. If you saw Cho's videos, you'd see that he didn't struggle speaking English. Personally, I think one would be fluent in the written language before they were with spoken.


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Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255210 is a reply to message #254284] Mon, 23 April 2007 04:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"mcbeef" is a play (I want to put that in inverted commas...) so it's possible that the language is like that to reflect the characters and image of the characters the audience is supposed to get, and not a reflection on his writing ability.


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Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255217 is a reply to message #254284] Mon, 23 April 2007 06:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In either scenario, his writing sucks.

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Re: Virginia Tech Massacre [message #255761 is a reply to message #254284] Wed, 25 April 2007 16:20 Go to previous message
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Mr. brownstone made me laugh. But yeah, this guy was pretty badly fucked up.

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