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Foxtrot
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Kill whoring, when the enemy clearly has you beat example;Has your defenses,Wf, and ref dead early on in the match, but instead of finishing you chooses to mearly keep your base alive while killing you with apcs/ramjets. So basicly I just want to know if Im not alone in that if that happend in a server I was moderating I would give them the option to finish it or be kicked.
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #245075 is a reply to message #245071] |
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how else can i vent my rage for the millions who buy a ramjet the minute the opposing team's barr/hon dies. Especially applicable on city flying because once they lose their precious barracks/HoN they lose everything they have because the ramjet guy/gal knows he can't use anything but one, and i know it too. that's why i pretty much want to kill them right away, and when they're power is down it is me killing as many as I can as fast I can in certain amount of time. If my team cared about me they'd leave the AGT/ob but that's not always the case
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #245107 is a reply to message #245071] |
Tue, 13 February 2007 00:02 |
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| Foxtrot wrote on Mon, 12 February 2007 19:23 |
Kill whoring, when the enemy clearly has you beat example;Has your defenses,Wf, and ref dead early on in the match, but instead of finishing you chooses to mearly keep your base alive while killing you with apcs/ramjets. So basicly I just want to know if Im not alone in that if that happend in a server I was moderating I would give them the option to finish it or be kicked.
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Sometimes a player can be working hard all game towards MVP without kill whoring therefore to "END GAME" takes away that opportunity and gives the kill whore the better opportunity.
Afterall the whole point of the game is to destroy all buildings.
Tough shit if your team cannot defend a base to prevent this situation from happening. They had the opportunity to prevent it from happening as did every other team player. If you cannot play as a team then suffer the consequences.
I will play till the final building is destroyed, if it means that someone kill whores then so be it. next you will want to "END GAME" due to someone point whoring in a vehicle oops while we are it perhaps we should "END GAME" because an engineer has to many points for continually repairing or do you want to take that away as well.
The game is a fight to the end.
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #245113 is a reply to message #245071] |
Tue, 13 February 2007 04:23 |
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Also to add, I'm not going out of my way to finish a game where the other team is sure to lose yet they still repair. If they want the game to end so much, they just won't repair. Sure enough SOMEONE will come along and shoot the building. Sometimes killwhoring can be good because otherwise those people might run out with 10000 flamethrowers and the tanks never have time to shoot at the building. I mean if you can't kill someone even though they're shooting at your team's vehicles, you got something wrong with the rules (hi n00bless)
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #245114 is a reply to message #245071] |
Tue, 13 February 2007 04:33 |
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So true, Sniper De. Kill whoring with an apc is my revenge to all the n00bjets that just wait until u're unaware and start typing something.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #245197 is a reply to message #245071] |
Tue, 13 February 2007 22:07 |
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Sniper_De7
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if the guy with the havoc is really really bad
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #247177 is a reply to message #245071] |
Tue, 27 February 2007 00:18 |
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Teh n00bjet. Very annoying when your bar/hon is wiped out. If your good (and it's a non-base defense map) you can sometimes sneak past all of the enemy and make it into their base (walls is a good one for that). And if you happen to have a beacon (which your ussually overflowing with cash and nothing to spend on at this point) you can set it in there and most of the time they're so busy on offense that they don't bother looking for it. A couple years back I remember I was able to sneak into Nod's ref as a grenadier and kill the structure. No one even tried to stop me :/ .
Back to the topic, sereiously annoying and they should just lay the beacon and cover it with the apcs and end it :/ .
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #249895 is a reply to message #245075] |
Wed, 14 March 2007 21:17 |
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Mon, 12 February 2007 20:32 |
how else can i vent my rage for the millions who buy a ramjet the minute the opposing team's barr/hon dies. Especially applicable on city flying because once they lose their precious barracks/HoN they lose everything they have because the ramjet guy/gal knows he can't use anything but one, and i know it too. that's why i pretty much want to kill them right away
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They say forgiveness is man's finest quality.
But seriously, those who say 'it's your fault for losing structure X and structure Y, you shouls suffer the consequences' are WRONG, because the ramjet/APC whoring SHOULDN'T HAPPEN. It shouldn't happen because of the object of the game. The way I see it (and this is just me, could be wrong) is that most people kill whore not for the reasons De7 gave above, but because they are generally sucky players whose team has (or has had the entire map) no real strategy or plan of action, and they get a sniper/APC because it's just...well...the thing to do, to fuck around and wait for someone to make a plan to finish the opponent off.
When I say no real plan of action, I mean that from the beginning of the map to the end, everybody really just does what they want. Sure, maybe 1 or 2 people will say 'so what's the plan?' or some variation, but unless somebody takes charge, calls a rush or gives general orders of what to buy and expect, people do what they want. Big reason for this is that when someone DOES take charge, nobody...fucking...listens to them. Kill whoring can go all the way back to this.
Of course, some people just like to feel special with their big k/d ratio, and seem to think a game of AOW suddenly becomes a (terribly unbalanced) deathmatch when certain structures die on certain maps, and continue till the timer hits 0:00.
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #249923 is a reply to message #245071] |
Thu, 15 March 2007 04:43 |
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in some maps i might actually try to win but after awhile my team isn't really doing anything to finish them i'll kill whore if it's my perogative. I am not going to suffer myself the time and effort to win by myself. Besides, killing them all is not a terribly horrible tactic. It helps them give up earlier. Seriously, if your team has no hope and you're repairing while your whole team is getting slaughtered, why are you even trying? I'm only going to blame THEM for not giving up.
In the case for flying maps, mainly for walls_fly - At the point they lose the barr and they lose their snipers, i am probably pissed off at the complete nutjobs who do nothing for their team but sit on top of the WF/ref/wherever and just snipe copters, even if I just sit around killing their teams tanks over and over again for 5 minutes and they don't see me. They'll STILL be there, doing NOTHING. Besides, I know the minute we lose a hand/barr on that map, they're going to buy all sorts of 1000 that wouldn't be much different. No mercy in my book - Don't like losing? Give up.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #250017 is a reply to message #245071] |
Thu, 15 March 2007 22:41 |
ballstein
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If someone wants to kill whore, then so be it. I just can't stand when someone talks shit about it, saying they are better than u are. Being a havoc/sakura and kill people does not make u good, I think it's pretty damn gay when the bar/hand go down then someone buys one and keeps sniping the whole game. I do like the challenge though of going up against a havoc/sakura when i'm a free character. If u want to kill whore when the bar/hand is down, atleast use a 500 sniper because then it's somewhat of a challenge to kill people.
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #250188 is a reply to message #250017] |
Sat, 17 March 2007 03:13 |
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Once in a lifetime it happens and this was my revenge. Last night on Walls we had a captured GDI APC. WF + PPL was down and as I charged into their base with their own APC, I was met with a delightful scene.
Between the BAR and WF stood a mass of characters ranging from soldiers to Havocs standing around and shooting at the entrance.
I took great delight in listening to squish, boink! squish boink! as I ran over 8 of them. The moment of horror was highly amusing as they tried to flee from the captured APC. Another 2 kills with remote C4 at the entrace to the WF.
2000 now needed for a Havoc.
Who cares if they camp or kill whore 
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #250906 is a reply to message #250834] |
Wed, 21 March 2007 06:34 |
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| Jerad Gray wrote on Tue, 20 March 2007 22:19 |
I have played game in the past where they get enough of you buildings destroyed to the point only one is left. Then all their good players quit and then the game is just stuck because you have good enough players on you team to hold off the n00bs.
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WOW! This happened in a game in Complex yesterday morning! I was Nod and GDI was winning. But a SBH rush managed to kill the Bar/Ref and GDI was left with only their WF.
The good GDI players left in droves; the killer Havocs and PICS who kept us in Hell were nowhere to be found!
We nuked the WF while the n00bs inside were repairing the MCT!
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #251211 is a reply to message #245071] |
Fri, 23 March 2007 04:21 |
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killwhoring is good sometimes, if hon/barr jsut died and they still got some good chars left. but after that it's useless
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #251213 is a reply to message #245071] |
Fri, 23 March 2007 04:26 |
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not useless, just annoying for the other team.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #251221 is a reply to message #251213] |
Fri, 23 March 2007 05:07 |
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 23 March 2007 05:26 |
not useless, just annoying for the other team.
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What enjoyment do you personally get from being annoying?
AS was previously mentioned, perhaps you do not have the skill to enter the opposing base and deploy a beacon. Is this true or do you wish to further elaborate?
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #251237 is a reply to message #245071] |
Fri, 23 March 2007 05:59 |
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In some games, it is pretty much impossible to go and put a beacon down by yourself.(i mean in games where there's just a hand of nod/barracks left and they've got snipers from different angles that could easily headshot - not to mention if you're GDI they've got sbhs, and that would be a real short attempt at a beacon placement) I say impossible because for people who are terrible at this game (ie you) You wouldn't stand a chance.
But getting bakc on base here, I just said that it *wasn't* pointless to do it, and that it was annoying to the other team. I've ALREADY told everyone the value in using an apc and killwhoring. For one - as i said already - If you have a bunch of tanks on your team and the server is pretty big, it is nice to have someone deliberately going after the many people fighting your teammate's tanks. (in other words, isntead of the tanks having to deal with the infantry, they can all focus on one building). Another reason for doing it is that the people give up hope trying and stay inside their buildings (making it much more easier for someone else to nuke. Apart from that, I just like killing them. If they are going to continue trying when supposedly they don't haev any hope left (otherwise they would easily kill an apc) than I am going to continue to kill them until they realize that it's a waste of time to try and that I'm there to stay to keep killing them. I mean, the point of the game is to... win... right? I don't see how this falls short of any other tactic. Besides, i also kill just to haev kills. I don't give a shit about the other team's feelings. Chances are i'll be on their team the next round. It's just stupid. What if I use a humvee to kill all the people, is that somehow OKAY and using an APC isn't? Or what if i use a mammoth tank. A med tank. Restricting people from killing is the absolutely most retarded thign i've ever seen a server set a rule for.
just a bit extra here, but where the fuck are you going with that shit about me not being skilled enough? Seriously, what clans have YOU been in? Have you even ever been good enough to join one of the shittier ones? Has it ever competed in clanwars.cc? I mean where do you come from? The decade pack? don't make me laugh. I've been playing the game for 5 years and though I odn't even play that much anymore, I'd probably give the average clanwars player a fight despite me not having played a real clanwar in some years. And people complain about ss talking shit to you when you say shit like this first (ironically, he said shit to you after you misinterpreted what he was talking about - just like this) Now you seem like a huge dumbass and god only knows why you try anymore
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Kill Whoring. [message #251262 is a reply to message #251224] |
Fri, 23 March 2007 08:30 |
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| mrpirate wrote on Fri, 23 March 2007 06:17 |
de7 is better than you could ever wish to be.
maybe you should read his posts twice before you go misinterpreting what he says and posting something stupid.
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Here we go again!!
It appears that when any statement is grammatically incorrect and therefore misinterpreted by someone who reads it, that the said person is stupid.
I suggest that if any statement is made, then give a little thought to how it may be construed. That way, there should be no possibility of it being misinterpreted.
Whilst on the subject of your statement. I do not care a toss if "de7" is better or not, as this was never part of the subject on "kill whoring".
SO!! Back on topic before you start a flame war.
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