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Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240148] Fri, 19 January 2007 14:09 Go to next message
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My friend is off to Afghanistan in May, part of his duties may well involve 2 man patrols in order to relay radio signals in enemy territory and the base he is stationed at is currently under mortar attacks on a daily basis, this means he is facing the reality that there is a high chance he is going to be involved in a fire fight during his 6 months there. He is at least supporting the truly awesome apache gunships out there though and will be backed up by the para's.

That's still a scary proposition though and one that I personally wouldn't want to face, would be interested to hear peoples experiences or knowledge of things over there and perhaps reading/viewing a little more if anyone has links to videos/reports detailing what's really going on.


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Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240150 is a reply to message #240148] Fri, 19 January 2007 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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just one question, saddam hussain is cu-put now. why is there war going on still?
Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240153 is a reply to message #240150] Fri, 19 January 2007 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gamemodding wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 22:12

just one question, saddam hussain is cu-put now. why is there war going on still?

It's not by killing MrWiggles that all dickheads would be eliminated. That should answer your question.


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Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240161 is a reply to message #240148] Fri, 19 January 2007 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oh...they should give up.
Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240162 is a reply to message #240148] Fri, 19 January 2007 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gamemodding, a question for you:

If a foreign country invaded the UK, set up its own government only to capture and kill the previous leaders, would you give up? Or would you continue to fight to get your way of life back?
Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240165 is a reply to message #240148] Fri, 19 January 2007 15:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i would give up. emegrate. i just thought that since people were toucherd and stuff they wouldn't want to support him.

if whoever was trying to take over wasn't very powerful then i would fight. but there comes a time when you know that fighting would do nothing except get you killed.
Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240171 is a reply to message #240153] Fri, 19 January 2007 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 15:35

gamemodding wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 22:12

just one question, saddam hussain is cu-put now. why is there war going on still?

It's not by killing MrWiggles that all dickheads would be eliminated. That should answer your question.

i think what goztow is trying to say is that since he sucks at renegade and refuses to play any1 better than him/makes sure his mods feel the same way, that he's somehow superior in the renegade community because he has mod on some forums.

and btw pirate, a bunch of guys are going to afghanistan from my unit in 08, so if i hear anything ill let you know.


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Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240175 is a reply to message #240165] Fri, 19 January 2007 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gamemodding wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 15:10

i would give up. emegrate. i just thought that since people were toucherd and stuff they wouldn't want to support him.

if whoever was trying to take over wasn't very powerful then i would fight. but there comes a time when you know that fighting would do nothing except get you killed.


Follow up question:

Now then, can you say the same thing for every person in the UK?
Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240178 is a reply to message #240148] Fri, 19 January 2007 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had a friend from Boy Scouts who was killed in November in Baghdad. He was a medic in the Army and was previously in Korea before he was transferred to Iraq.

What I realized is that you are never going to be sure how safe someone is going to be over there. Nobody I know was expecting him to get shot, but there he was. All there is to do is hope and pray that things will go well. Don't expect that bad things will happen, but be prepared for anything.


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Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240191 is a reply to message #240148] Fri, 19 January 2007 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Keep in mind that these guys comprehend the possibilities of their sacrifice. No one wants to die. And even in situations where they make the ultimate sacrifice, they'd still prefer not to. So I'm not promoting more death. But I do think that people should stop thinking on their behalf so much and let these guys so what they volunteered to do. They're in our thoughts and prayers.

As for the discussion of taking over someone else's country: I hope you weren't suggest the U.S. was wrong for overthrowing that government. A dictator found guilty of war crimes (and executed for it) was removed and democracy is being pursued. It won't easily be accepted, but 'forcing' democracy on anyone cannot possibly be viewed as wrong. You're giving power to the people. If they wanted to elect Sadaam into power, then let them be dumb and tortured. The reason he was forcefully removed is because of all the crimes against his own people.

I think more efforts are needed to better stablize that region, and people should give more thanks to U.S. (and other) soldiers who give up their lives for Iraqi freedom. I believe that many perspectives on this war are ignorant and should be re-evaluated.
Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240209 is a reply to message #240175] Fri, 19 January 2007 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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warranto wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 22:48

gamemodding wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 15:10

i would give up. emegrate. i just thought that since people were toucherd and stuff they wouldn't want to support him.

if whoever was trying to take over wasn't very powerful then i would fight. but there comes a time when you know that fighting would do nothing except get you killed.


Follow up question:

Now then, can you say the same thing for every person in the UK?


no i can't, i think alot of people in our country will fight to the death. There are also alot of people that really don't like our goverment, i would say half the population would fight and half would just leave. I suppose thats arguable.
Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240233 is a reply to message #240148] Sat, 20 January 2007 04:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MexPirate wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 15:09

My friend is off to Afghanistan in May, part of his duties may well involve 2 man patrols in order to relay radio signals in enemy territory and the base he is stationed at is currently under mortar attacks on a daily basis, this means he is facing the reality that there is a high chance he is going to be involved in a fire fight during his 6 months there. He is at least supporting the truly awesome apache gunships out there though and will be backed up by the para's.

That's still a scary proposition though and one that I personally wouldn't want to face, would be interested to hear peoples experiences or knowledge of things over there and perhaps reading/viewing a little more if anyone has links to videos/reports detailing what's really going on.


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Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240328 is a reply to message #240209] Sat, 20 January 2007 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gamemodding wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 22:35

warranto wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 22:48

gamemodding wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 15:10

i would give up. emegrate. i just thought that since people were toucherd and stuff they wouldn't want to support him.

if whoever was trying to take over wasn't very powerful then i would fight. but there comes a time when you know that fighting would do nothing except get you killed.


Follow up question:

Now then, can you say the same thing for every person in the UK?


no i can't, i think alot of people in our country will fight to the death. There are also alot of people that really don't like our goverment, i would say half the population would fight and half would just leave. I suppose thats arguable.


You've answered your own question Wink

However, the Iraqis need to hurry up. We've overstayed our welcome as it is. That being said, God bless our troops. Unsung heroes of our time.


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Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240385 is a reply to message #240191] Sun, 21 January 2007 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 20 January 2007 02:09

Keep in mind that these guys comprehend the possibilities of their sacrifice. No one wants to die. And even in situations where they make the ultimate sacrifice, they'd still prefer not to. So I'm not promoting more death. But I do think that people should stop thinking on their behalf so much and let these guys so what they volunteered to do. They're in our thoughts and prayers.

As for the discussion of taking over someone else's country: I hope you weren't suggest the U.S. was wrong for overthrowing that government. A dictator found guilty of war crimes (and executed for it) was removed and democracy is being pursued. It won't easily be accepted, but 'forcing' democracy on anyone cannot possibly be viewed as wrong. You're giving power to the people. If they wanted to elect Sadaam into power, then let them be dumb and tortured. The reason he was forcefully removed is because of all the crimes against his own people.

I think more efforts are needed to better stablize that region, and people should give more thanks to U.S. (and other) soldiers who give up their lives for Iraqi freedom. I believe that many perspectives on this war are ignorant and should be re-evaluated.


I don't know whether or not we are watching the same new, but from what I see Iraq is more unstable now than it ever has been. Besides, Bush never said that he wanted Saddam out, else he would have moved into Iraq before, no he needed the weapons of mass destruction destroyed.. according to him. I personnaly think tha the just wants the oil, as his family are a large texas based oil farmers...


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Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240416 is a reply to message #240209] Sun, 21 January 2007 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gamemodding wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 22:35

warranto wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 22:48

gamemodding wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 15:10

i would give up. emegrate. i just thought that since people were toucherd and stuff they wouldn't want to support him.

if whoever was trying to take over wasn't very powerful then i would fight. but there comes a time when you know that fighting would do nothing except get you killed.


Follow up question:

Now then, can you say the same thing for every person in the UK?


no i can't, i think alot of people in our country will fight to the death. There are also alot of people that really don't like our goverment, i would say half the population would fight and half would just leave. I suppose thats arguable.


I disagree.

If you were ever invaded again or the U.S. was, people would stand together and fight then sort out the differences between them later. No matter how much you like or don’t like who is running the country, it’s still your country and people will fight to the death to defend it. Doesn’t matter what political party you lean to.



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Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240509 is a reply to message #240148] Mon, 22 January 2007 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MexPirate wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 15:09

My friend is off to Afghanistan in May, part of his duties may well involve 2 man patrols in order to relay radio signals in enemy territory and the base he is stationed at is currently under mortar attacks on a daily basis, this means he is facing the reality that there is a high chance he is going to be involved in a fire fight during his 6 months there. He is at least supporting the truly awesome apache gunships out there though and will be backed up by the para's.

That's still a scary proposition though and one that I personally wouldn't want to face, would be interested to hear peoples experiences or knowledge of things over there and perhaps reading/viewing a little more if anyone has links to videos/reports detailing what's really going on.


Glad to see someone is opening his eyes to the reality of adult life, whilst at war.
Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240510 is a reply to message #240150] Mon, 22 January 2007 04:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gamemodding wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 15:12

just one question, saddam hussain is cu-put now. why is there war going on still?


You are a fuckwit!!

Killing the man at the top of the "The chain of Command" does not kill the army or stop the war.
Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240511 is a reply to message #240175] Mon, 22 January 2007 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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warranto wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 16:48

gamemodding wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 15:10

i would give up. emegrate. i just thought that since people were toucherd and stuff they wouldn't want to support him.

if whoever was trying to take over wasn't very powerful then i would fight. but there comes a time when you know that fighting would do nothing except get you killed.


Follow up question:

Now then, can you say the same thing for every person in the UK?


He cannot!!! Its that simple.

Squad, squad SHUN!! right turn, "to the war", fall out.

While you are on the subject of emigrating, take all the refugees and migrants from the UK and send them all back to their own country.

Its people like you that have caused the Uk to be overfilled with the ethnics.

Emigrate whilst at war? Dickhead.

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Re: Iraq and Afghanistan [message #240594 is a reply to message #240148] Mon, 22 January 2007 08:39 Go to previous message
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But that's my point.

Not every person is simply willing to give up a way of life for the sake of an invading country. Be it right or wrong, they were taught that the Iraqi way of life is the right way of life (the same goes for every country being taught their way is the best way).

That's why people still fight, despite Saddam being gone.
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