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dead6re
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Firstly, don’t bother replying if you don’t read the entire message, otherwise you won’t have both sides of the argument. The second reply in this thread contains my release: NoFear.
Okay, I know all of you here will have heard of my name (In good and bad). The good was Reserved Slots, Kill Messages, and my public expansion of my Kill Messages lower down in this thread. First of all, I wish I could turn back the clocks and fix all that has gone wrong. I think it has gone past a stage now that I can fix any trust, and I'm not looking to fix it.
Image yourself (16 years of age) trying cigarettes for the first time in your life, the amount of peer pressure that has been placed upon you. This was a huge factor in this case. Now, you finally accepted the cigarette into your hand, and its light, slowly burning away. You take one small puff of the cigarette and think, "Oh, I'll be fine; the nicotine won't get to me". You hope this is correct, only to find yourself craving for more, more, more! You would do anything to get another cigarette. You have become addicted and think you can get away with it and not get caught be anyone.
Now, I’m sure you would have guessed from the above that I am actually 16 years of age. Yes, this is a lot of responsibility for me, and a load more if I got finalized together in the partnership with Black-Intel/Black hand Studios. People will say that I should never be part of that, and to some degree I have to agree but I myself wanted to help, unfortunately I went the wrong way.
Now, I don't smoke, but I know people who do and I wrote this little story to say how powerful it can be from what I have learnt from them. They wish they could give it up, and they have tried really hard. Now you can apply this same situation to my cheating, first time I did worry about it, but after a time, it became natural. I couldn’t help myself.
I’m not looking to bore you to death; I’m giving you an insight into why I cheated. To begin it was kill the cheaters in the game; I would exclusively hunt them down and fire. RenGuard 1.03 is being bypassed and various events for the next RenGuard 1.04 have slowed down the production. Certain rumors fly past my ears that v00d00 completed RenGuard 1.04, but turned sour creating a hack that would be unstoppable (This was believed to have been made available to certain friends). Other people have certainly done this, for example Sir_Kane. I admire what he has created, although know myself that he shouldn’t have. He also knows what he has done and will suffer the consequences. I would like you to grant him a second chance, which is what he deserves. I believe in a “three strikes and your out” system.
On my hand, I have done a whole lot more than what you have seen. Behind the scenes I’ve been causing a huge amount of havoc that fortunately hasn’t spread to any bad ears yet, but only time will tell what had happened (More importantly, what will happen in the future). That to me has wasted all my chances, and I don’t want anymore.
I’ll leave the end there.
Let all your wishes be granted except one, so you will still have something to strieve for.
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Re: Sour Egg Releases NoFear [message #239593 is a reply to message #239592] |
Wed, 17 January 2007 11:33 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
dead6re
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Next, I would like to publicly release my latest and last piece of work for the Renegade community, all of which is my own work. I will get a member of Black-Intel to read over the code and they will tell you if they think it is safe to use. This was opened to n00bstories and Black-Intel to begin with, and as I have finished the work I would like to release this to all communities.
I present NoFear, a client modification for Command & Conquer Renegade as an attempt to keep this game from dying as it reaches the end in its life cycle. This modification allows the user to:
- Expanded Kill Messages (Including Weapon/Vehicle and Preset)
- Team Vehicle Delivered Messages
- Console Commands to enable/disable Expanded Kill Messages
- Customization File for above features
Source code is not shipped out, because the nature of this code means that you could make a slight change and see a lot more than you should be allowed to see. The scripts.dll version is 2.9.2.
I hope everyone enjoys this release as my last work on the Renegade engine as I will most likely move onto another game and start from scratch to build up a reputation for myself and my name. If you meet me in any of those games, I would like all Renegade events to be forgotten or neglected.
Without further delay, you can now download my modification. This is also most likely goodbye.
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Attachment: NoFear.rar
(Size: 343.81KB, Downloaded 231 times)
Let all your wishes be granted except one, so you will still have something to strieve for.
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Re: Sour Egg Releases NoFear [message #239599 is a reply to message #239593] |
Wed, 17 January 2007 11:45 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
Caveman
Messages: 2476 Registered: July 2005 Location: Wales, UK
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I will download this and try it out. I admire the fact that you got caught cheating and still have didn't go childish and say well now that you've kicked me out of this and that I wont release any fixes and whatnot.
Thanks for the great things you've done to Renegade. See you around. (I hope)
CarrierII wrote | BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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Re: Sour Egg Releases NoFear [message #239611 is a reply to message #239592] |
Wed, 17 January 2007 12:40 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
Tunaman
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Although I respect the work that you've done for this community, it is your fault that you cheated. Cheating is very different from smoking as its your choice whether you continue or not, and honestly, you must be hanging around some pretty sad people if they use peer pressure on you to make you cheat on a videogame to make yourself look good at it.
![http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9055/tunamanlmao.png](http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9055/tunamanlmao.png)
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Re: Sour Egg Releases NoFear [message #239620 is a reply to message #239619] |
Wed, 17 January 2007 14:28 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
dead6re
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I am unable to replicate this error; Can you find out more about the situation like the nicknames of the players involved?
Let all your wishes be granted except one, so you will still have something to strieve for.
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Re: Sour Egg Releases NoFear [message #239625 is a reply to message #239592] |
Wed, 17 January 2007 14:57 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Sniper_De7
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Why should you deserve any more chances than the average joe? I mean, there's people who admitted cheating and said they're sorry and haven't been given any lenience. Admitting to cheating only after you got caught, denying it all until there's proof on the table. You should have enough balls that if someone suspects you of cheating, with or without proof, and you in fact are cheating, that you should admit it regardless, for the sake of the other person. The last thing you should do is flame the other person and lie about it making the other seem like s/he didn't know what he was talking about.
I'd rather have someone who blatantly cheats more than someone who has an advantage that is hard to spot. You can re-ban the ones who blatantly do it quite easily, but the people who lie and will try and sneak through, i really can't trust them to say they won't try to sneak again.
Besides. The douche had a second chance - remember Crimson admitting that she told him to stop? What did he do? Not stop. How many chances does a guy get if he does something for the community? Besides it's of my own opinion I really don't give a shit about server modded shit. O.K you can go ahead and fix bugs like falling through the map, beyond that Renegade was fine as it is.
As for you, you already admitted you don't even care what people think of you after you cheated. You should care, you ruined some of their games, and every person who hasn't cheated has a right to be mad because EVERYONE makes the choice of whether or not to cheat - Just because we were mature enough to choose not to cheat hardly means you can act like you're above it all. I'd feel embarassed if I knew and talked to you and were part of anything you did.
Furthermore, i don't really care how good or bad whatever you made is, the fact that you're a big bag of douchery leads me to not want to have anything to do with something so abnormally doucehbaggish. If other people like it, cool, but we sure as hell didn't need it and it's not like renegade would be dead without you. That pretty much goes for both, because there'd still be dedicated people who would much rather see other priorities come first rather than scripts where you can change your score to make yourself feel like you're anything but the shitty-ass scum player you are.
That was the worst analogy EVER, by the way. You're comparing something like a game, to a certain aspect like cheating and not being able to stop? I'll bet 100$ that you didn't even TRY to stop.
Just fuck off.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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Re: Sour Egg Releases NoFear [message #239626 is a reply to message #239604] |
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Dave Anderson
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Quote: | You will in-fact be called a jackass because you don't know how the "Spell-check Message" button works.
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Keep the urge to correct grammar to yourself or continue that discussion via private messages.
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Re: Sour Egg Releases NoFear [message #239632 is a reply to message #239592] |
Wed, 17 January 2007 15:20 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Goztow
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Sniper De and I are gonna become friends if we find a couple of other cheater-topics.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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Re: Sour Egg Releases NoFear [message #239637 is a reply to message #239592] |
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Sniper_De7
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No, I think it's bad that people that cheat and then flame the other person who has caught/accuse them cheating is bad. (Coincidentally, lying at the same time) Big difference there, chief.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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Re: Sour Egg Releases NoFear [message #239640 is a reply to message #239592] |
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Sniper_De7
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In fact, for some people apparently - you should be glad they caught you cheating, because you wouldn't have your cheat addiction anymore.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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Re: Sour Egg Releases NoFear [message #239655 is a reply to message #239592] |
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Goztow
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Is it normal that the Nod messages appear as gold now (on Alex' screenshot)? Or am I missing something?
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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Re: Sour Egg Releases NoFear [message #239656 is a reply to message #239635] |
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Dave Anderson
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Caveman wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 15:25 |
Dave Anderson wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 16:10 |
Quote: | You will in-fact be called a jackass because you don't know how the "Spell-check Message" button works.
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Keep the urge to correct grammar to yourself or continue that discussion via private messages.
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I didn't mean it as a flame, I was simply saying that people will flame him not because if his opinion on the matter but his poor spelling. HL if I offended you then I'm sorry.
On topic: Yeah sure I have the name of the player. Also I don't know if I was suppose to see this but when I joined my server I saw Nod Harvy delivered. Then I saw Nod APC Delivered. Meaning I saw some of the Nods information when I was on GDI. (This only happened a few times)
[21:16:44] <%sccrscorer> W|NGD|NGO killed BaboonDude (GDI Minigunner/Auto Rifle vs Nod Minigunner)
When I joined the server and he killed someone I kept seeing this so I'm assuming its something to do with the "|" in his name. Hope this helps.
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It isn't that you offended me, because you didn't. The mods, however, posted new rules for a reason.
David Anderson
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DCOM Productions
Microsoft Partner (MSP)
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