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Re: Marijuana [message #239020 is a reply to message #238830] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 18:04 |
z310
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lol Not really, IWarriors.
You're saying the drug should be illegal because most people won't have reason enough to use it - but that's idiotic when you defend alcohol. Most people will have the same reason to blaze to drink, recreation.
They both have health plus and minuses too, so don't say: "But alcohol can be good for you and weed can't."
Many drugs that are legal because they pose no or little enough threat to society, like caffeine, alcohol, and tobacco. Sometimes those drugs need to be regulated to belittle the threat they create to under-weigh society's needs. The government doesn't straight-out ban them because they don't need to, and doing so anyways would take away rights most of society feels they should have. They don't want a revolution.
Research marijuana and you'll find that it should be one of those drugs. In my opinion, alcohol is worse than it.
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Re: Marijuana [message #239026 is a reply to message #239020] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 19:02 |
z310
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z310 wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 20:04 | Many drugs that are legal because they pose no or little enough threat to society, like caffeine, alcohol, and tobacco. Sometimes those drugs need to be regulated to belittle the threat they create to under-weigh society's needs. The government doesn't straight-out ban them because they don't need to, and doing so anyways would take away rights most of society feels they should have. They don't want a revolution.
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minus "that".
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Re: Marijuana [message #239030 is a reply to message #239025] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 19:37 |
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j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 14 January 2007 01:48 | Tobacco is too a drug...
Wikipedia | A drug is any biological substance, synthetic or non-synthetic, that is taken for non-dietary needs. It is usually synthesized outside of an organism, but introduced into an organism to produce its action. That is, when taken into the organisms body, it will produce some effects or alter some bodily functions (such as relieving symptoms, curing diseases or used as preventive medicine or any other purposes).
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Tobacco relaxes you as well as act like an appetite suppressant. It's a drug.
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bah, our school teachers always said that it isn't, it is the nicotine. again, it is the nicotine that "relaxes" although in actuall fact it causes you to be unrelaxed.
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Re: Marijuana [message #239034 is a reply to message #239025] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 19:52 |
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j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 19:48 | Tobacco is too a drug...
Wikipedia | A drug is any biological substance, synthetic or non-synthetic, that is taken for non-dietary needs. It is usually synthesized outside of an organism, but introduced into an organism to produce its action. That is, when taken into the organisms body, it will produce some effects or alter some bodily functions (such as relieving symptoms, curing diseases or used as preventive medicine or any other purposes).
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Tobacco relaxes you as well as act like an appetite suppressant. It's a drug.
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If you're addicted to tobacco, Then yes, when you're stressed out, It feels like a smoke can relax you.
If you don't smoke and your stressed out, and have a cig, You will most probably caugh your lungs out then feel any more relaxed.
a cigarette has 100's of chemicals that kill you than relax you. lol
tobacco is from the plant so it could relax you, not exactly sure on that one.
Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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Re: Marijuana [message #239046 is a reply to message #238830] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 20:19 |
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The problem I see is the things that drug addicts do in order to get the financial means to pay for their high. I have an uncle who was a drug addict (he's dead now, thank goodness)... he was in and out of jail from early teens for breaking into people's houses and stealing shit to sell. Having marijuana illegal at this point is a strong deterrent, allowing everyone over 18 to use it would encourage more people to take up the habit.
Everyone I've ever seen on weed has been a lazy fuck who doesn't want to do anything. And then there was this guy I used to know who got drunk and high on January 5, 2000 and shot a 40 year old mother of two in the face with a pistol, killing her... and all she was doing was delivering him a pizza.
I'm the bawss.
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Re: Marijuana [message #239051 is a reply to message #239046] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 20:32 |
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Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 21:19 | The problem I see is the things that drug addicts do in order to get the financial means to pay for their high. I have an uncle who was a drug addict (he's dead now, thank goodness)... he was in and out of jail from early teens for breaking into people's houses and stealing shit to sell. Having marijuana illegal at this point is a strong deterrent, allowing everyone over 18 to use it would encourage more people to take up the habit.
Everyone I've ever seen on weed has been a lazy fuck who doesn't want to do anything. And then there was this guy I used to know who got drunk and high on January 5, 2000 and shot a 40 year old mother of two in the face with a pistol, killing her... and all she was doing was delivering him a pizza.
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Were not talking about skag heads or crack whores here, you don't see people commiting violent crimes to get their weed fix, for one they would be to lazy for anything like that and getting high on weed is still cheaper than getting drunk despite high prices.
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Re: Marijuana [message #239059 is a reply to message #239046] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 21:53 |
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Dave Anderson
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Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 20:19 | The problem I see is the things that drug addicts do in order to get the financial means to pay for their high. I have an uncle who was a drug addict (he's dead now, thank goodness)... he was in and out of jail from early teens for breaking into people's houses and stealing shit to sell. Having marijuana illegal at this point is a strong deterrent, allowing everyone over 18 to use it would encourage more people to take up the habit.
Everyone I've ever seen on weed has been a lazy fuck who doesn't want to do anything. And then there was this guy I used to know who got drunk and high on January 5, 2000 and shot a 40 year old mother of two in the face with a pistol, killing her... and all she was doing was delivering him a pizza.
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I have a friend who smokes Marijuana all the time. He is one of the laziest people I know. He finally got a job, but only so he can pay for his Marijuana, and he wastes every single penny on the stuff. Such a waste. He is a lazy ass as well. He's very smart, as a matter of fact, he doesn't do any of his school work, yet he can pass all his tests with C's or better, and mostly A's. But what is the point? He doesn't do his work and fails out of school. He wastes all his money on a drug that does no good for him at all. A pathetic waste.
Gbull wrote | I'm against Cigarettes, Alcohol, and Drugs. You shouldn't need any of these things and they are a detriment to society. Combine the three and you have the reason why most people die rapped up into one explanation.
That is all.
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Exactly. You shouldn't have to do drugs to have fun. If you have to do drugs to have fun, you must be a boring person, get a life. Aside from that, there is no real point in wasting money on something that will only make you "feel good" for a small amount of time. You could be using your money for better things to better yourself in life instead of being that pathetic person who relies on drugs to have fun, feel good, and pass time.
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Re: Marijuana [message #239063 is a reply to message #239059] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 22:16 |
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Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 23:53 | I have a friend who smokes Marijuana all the time. He is one of the laziest people I know. He finally got a job, but only so he can pay for his Marijuana, and he wastes every single penny on the stuff. Such a waste. He is a lazy ass as well. He's very smart, as a matter of fact, he doesn't do any of his school work, yet he can pass all his tests with C's or better, and mostly A's. But what is the point? He doesn't do his work and fails out of school. He wastes all his money on a drug that does no good for him at all. A pathetic waste.
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Do you feel that your anecdotal evidence justifies the prohibition of Marijuana along with the consequences that go with it?
Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 23:53 | Exactly. You shouldn't have to do drugs to have fun. If you have to do drugs to have fun, you must be a boring person, get a life. Aside from that, there is no real point in wasting money on something that will only make you "feel good" for a small amount of time. You could be using your money for better things to better yourself in life instead of being that pathetic person who relies on drugs to have fun, feel good, and pass time.
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Some people feel that you shouldn't waste time on the Internet to have fun. Who the hell are you to dictate what someone else does during their free time?
Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 22:19 | Everyone I've ever seen on weed has been a lazy fuck who doesn't want to do anything.
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Keep in mind that you've probably seen plenty of people that smoke weed and aren't lazy as fuck. Sure, there are always extremes, but majority of cannabis users that I know hold down a full time job, raise families, and attend college/high school. I manage to smoke on a weekly basis while working 40+ hours a week, going to school, and finding time for a social life.
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I can't understand why several people in this thread keep suggesting that all drug users need a drug to have fun. Can someone please explain the logic behind this incorrect conclusion?
cause = time
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Re: Marijuana [message #239064 is a reply to message #238830] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 22:23 |
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Dave Anderson
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Quote: | Do you feel that your anecdotal evidence justifies the prohibition of Marijuana along with the consequences that go with it?
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No, I am not justifying the prohibition of Marijuana. I have other friends who use Marijuana for a pain killer, that, I agree with. What I disagree with is when people use it for enjoyment. However, I can care less if they use it or not, it is their life, as long as they don't smoke it around me.
Marijuana has good uses, its just too bad that people abuse it. That is when I disagree with it. You make it legal, it gets abused even more. Keep it illegal, at least it is "somewhat" controlled. And I use that term loosely.
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Re: Marijuana [message #239066 is a reply to message #238830] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 22:29 |
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Agrees with 'xptek'.
I believe people should have
a choice to use "Marijuana"
Inside of there homes. I know of many people
that use marijuana
and they act like every one else and have normal life.
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Re: Marijuana [message #239067 is a reply to message #238830] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 22:29 |
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Dave Anderson
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xptek wrote: | I'm still wondering why you care about what someone is doing in their free time when it's none of your business at all.
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Dave S. Anderson wrote: | However, I can care less if they use it or not, it is their life, as long as they don't smoke it around me.
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Re: Marijuana [message #239068 is a reply to message #239067] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 22:41 |
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Dave Anderson | However, I can care less if they use it or not, it is their life, as long as they don't smoke it around me.
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Then why input your opinion on this issue if your ultimate excuse for not supporting your argument is that you don't care if people smoke it?
whoa.
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Re: Marijuana [message #239069 is a reply to message #238830] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 22:44 |
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Dave Anderson
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Because z130 wanted opinions.
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Re: Marijuana [message #239072 is a reply to message #239046] |
Sat, 13 January 2007 23:44 |
z310
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Crimson wrote on Sat, 13 January 2007 22:19 | The problem I see is the things that drug addicts do in order to get the financial means to pay for their high.
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Marijuana isn't addictive, so there's no problem there.
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