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Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters [message #237584 is a reply to message #237548]

Sat, 06 January 2007 11:57

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fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 07:52

But I think the larger issue her is about cheating. Even if they did get banned for nothing ... even if the server owner is a moron ... and even if the gameplay there is the worst anywhere ... I still don't think that gives someone the right to cheat.

I fail to see why my refusal to ban a player without conclusive evidence of their cheating, like so many public servers do, gives players the 'right' to cheat.

fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 07:52

Some kind of effective punishment for cheating would prevent them from acting foolishly like that in the first place.

SS didn't cheat in a server I have authority over, so the question becomes: who am I to enforce that penalty? Who gave me the power to dish out a penalty for something that happened outside of my 'jurisdiction'?
SS got a punishment (albeit completely ineffective) by Crimson banning his serial for admin impersonation. Of course, in the same thread she said he can just get a new serial, and I guarantee that isn't how I'd run the show when it comes to banned players... but I digress.

fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 07:52

Further, what if their luck just ran out and they finally got caught cheating - but it happened to be on a pub. server instead of a clanwar? Lets use radar hack as an example since its hard to detect ... would you want to risk that in the league?

SS didn't get 'caught' cheating, he wasn't trying to hide it, he wasn't using the cheat to make himself look like a better player than he was...

If you asked me what's more pathetic:
1. someone being so insecure about their skills on a COMPUTER GAME that they feel the need to cheat to convince people they're elite (best example I can think of is Jschultz)
or
2. someone using final ren and whatnot for fun

I'd say 1 and I think most of Clanwars.cc would agree with me. Don't get me wrong, '2' is stupid too and I'll penalise that as well, but '1' is just the bottom of the barrel and SS didn't do that.

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		Treatment of convicted cheaters By: fl00d3d on Sat, 06 January 2007 00:41
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: NukeIt15 on Sat, 06 January 2007 01:05
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: DarkKnight on Sat, 06 January 2007 21:52
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: Spoony on Sat, 06 January 2007 01:40
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: fl00d3d on Sat, 06 January 2007 04:06
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: Crimson on Sat, 06 January 2007 15:21
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: MexPirate on Sat, 06 January 2007 06:12
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: fl00d3d on Sat, 06 January 2007 06:52
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: Spoony on Sat, 06 January 2007 11:57
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: MexPirate on Sat, 06 January 2007 07:28
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: puddle_splasher on Sun, 07 January 2007 04:17
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: Spoony on Sun, 07 January 2007 04:36
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: MexPirate on Sun, 07 January 2007 05:39
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: puddle_splasher on Sun, 07 January 2007 07:44
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: MexPirate on Sun, 07 January 2007 08:29
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: Goztow on Sat, 06 January 2007 13:27
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		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: MexPirate on Sat, 06 January 2007 14:20
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: Spoony on Sat, 06 January 2007 14:39
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: Goztow on Sat, 06 January 2007 14:41
		Re: Treatment of convicted cheaters By: Spoony on Sat, 06 January 2007 15:01
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