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Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #235929 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 16:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I didn't start shit. I am not the only one that agrees that [NR] is a waste of time. I had a sucessful community and server until you brought you ass into it, as well as Nightma's, and I had to shut it down. How about the idea of Nightma taking my playered joined / left irc idea "Host: <name> has just joined #<chan>" So actually, Nightma took one of my ideas to [NR]. Besides, you shouldn't be talking, since you didn't program [NR] This is between me and Nightma, NOT YOU FL00D3D.

Nightma isn't even old enough to be a senior member.. I swear to God it pisses me off every time I see your name fl00d3d. Always talking shit. This had NOTHING to do with you! Why did you come and start this again..


Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #235938 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so you coded the Night Regulater? and so Nightma12 took ONE of your ideas. im taking ideas form brenbot, NR etc. so what? if DanPaul88 or Nightma12 wanted me to take something out of the Sbot because i took it from their bot. i would. and that is an infomative idea, it would get into the bot somehow anyway.

and dont go judging people by age.

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Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #235965 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nightma isn't even old enough to be a senior member.. I swear to God it pisses me off every time I see your name fl00d3d. Always talking shit. This had NOTHING to do with you! Why did you come and start this again..


A lot of the developers, web guys, programmers, modders, etc. in this community are young, and some of them are not to be underestimated.


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Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #235968 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 22:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Viva la Resistance!
If someone creates something for the community and provides it for free ... I don't see why an advertisement (or branding) is so harmful. For any product. Just my 3 cents.
Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #235970 is a reply to message #235791] Tue, 26 December 2006 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's not harmful. I just don't choose to do it. I don't like sloppiness, and ads in the nature of that particular product seem sloppy to me. I prefer my server-side scripts and bots to appear native, not hacked on later. That's also why I don't use the SSAOW bind/lock functionality. It's the epitome of sloppiness, both with having to issue a command in chat, and the stupid icon that appears on the vehicle when it's bound or locked.

I'm the bawss.
Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #236025 is a reply to message #235791] Wed, 27 December 2006 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, I think about NR the same way as Crimson. Sloppiness. Don't get me wrong, but I think BR has less sloppiness then NR, but NR would be a kick-ass bot without that sloppiness. But Crimson, I never heard about those issues in command in chat thing? What is it?

Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #236091 is a reply to message #235970] Wed, 27 December 2006 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 23:47

It's not harmful. I just don't choose to do it. I don't like sloppiness, and ads in the nature of that particular product seem sloppy to me. I prefer my server-side scripts and bots to appear native, not hacked on later. That's also why I don't use the SSAOW bind/lock functionality. It's the epitome of sloppiness, both with having to issue a command in chat, and the stupid icon that appears on the vehicle when it's bound or locked.


No offense, when I play you're server and some fucktard steals my tank, It makes me want to not play you're server, The !bl command is something useful, But I'm not here to tell you how to run you're server. Smile


Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.

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Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #236103 is a reply to message #235791] Wed, 27 December 2006 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm working on an automatic binding system which is the way it should have always been.

I'm the bawss.
Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #236104 is a reply to message #235791] Wed, 27 December 2006 21:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Will it get rid of that annoying bug where the vehicle is bound to (Null) if the person lags out or is kicked?
Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #236123 is a reply to message #235791] Thu, 28 December 2006 01:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SeargentSarg wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 17:24

Besides, you shouldn't be talking, since you didn't program [NR] This is between me and Nightma, NOT YOU FL00D3D.

This had NOTHING to do with you! Why did you come and start this again..




I would not exactly call this topic "A Flaming Hot Discussion".

It is certainly a "Flaming Subject" apparently against one person.

Why is that? Are you deliberately trying to tell us all, YOUR opinion of one person? Where do you hope that this topic will lead? What exactly are YOU so worried about? How do you perceive that this issue can be resolved?

Can YOU better the attempts of one person, who is attempting to better something?

Its better to have failed trying, than to have failed without trying.

Keep up the good attempts. All good things come to fruition in the end.

Aim for the moon and you may fall short, but, you will still be among the "Stars". Big Ups

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Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #236142 is a reply to message #235924] Thu, 28 December 2006 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 17:32

The ads on startup is one of the main reasons I don't use BI's DLL.


The ported SSAOW.15, or the BlackIntel with our fixes?


Let all your wishes be granted except one, so you will still have something to strieve for.
Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #236143 is a reply to message #235791] Thu, 28 December 2006 07:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the ported SSAOW i believe - its a simple change to remove the ad's anyway
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Dave Anderson wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 23:17

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Nightma isn't even old enough to be a senior member.. I swear to God it pisses me off every time I see your name fl00d3d. Always talking shit. This had NOTHING to do with you! Why did you come and start this again..


A lot of the developers, web guys, programmers, modders, etc. in this community are young, and some of them are not to be underestimated.

well said.
I'm only 16, and clearly not a fucktard In Love
<3 nightma.
</3 ads.
</3 teh-pwnerer.
the end.
Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #236159 is a reply to message #235791] Thu, 28 December 2006 10:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Amunra, I find it funny how some time ago, you kept calling Nightma12 a fucktard, and [NR] a stupid piece of waste less shit. Now your sucking up to him like everyone else?

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And I find the fact you infer you are older
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nightma isn't even old enough...
when you only try to start shit. (for want of a better phrase)


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Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #236181 is a reply to message #236103] Thu, 28 December 2006 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SeargentSarg wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 18:24

I didn't start shit. I am not the only one that agrees that [NR] is a waste of time. I had a sucessful community and server until you brought you ass into it, as well as Nightma's, and I had to shut it down. How about the idea of Nightma taking my playered joined / left irc idea "Host: <name> has just joined #<chan>" So actually, Nightma took one of my ideas to [NR]. Besides, you shouldn't be talking, since you didn't program [NR] This is between me and Nightma, NOT YOU FL00D3D.

Nightma isn't even old enough to be a senior member.. I swear to God it pisses me off every time I see your name fl00d3d. Always talking shit. This had NOTHING to do with you! Why did you come and start this again..



(1) [NR] is just as much of a waste of time as any other bot or community development. Stop being ignorant.
(2) You never had a successful community. You had a popular server and the only reason for it was because it was on a000004.
(3) Nightma12 wrote the fucking bot. You should be lucky enough to even use it, let alone claim that he has no right to develop an idea that you supposedly came up with (which I *highly* doubt as you have no technical knowledge whatsoever).
(4) Nightma12 has created a popular bot and run servers for years --he has contributed more to this community as his age than you ever will.
(5) Why do I get involved when you flame Nightma12 or NR? Because he is my partner and I believe in his creativity and talents. I'm guessing you'd prefer that I just let him defend himself?

Crimson wrote on Wed, 27 December 2006 22:44

I'm working on an automatic binding system which is the way it should have always been.


What happens when you want to relinquish the vehicle to another? Or if you want to bail out of the tank before it blows up so the enemy doesn't get the points for an "enemy controlled vehicle"? The only way to do that would be to type in a command thus removing the whole argument of "sloppiness". I guess automatic binding would be nice if there was a way to un-do it ... but undo-ing it would still be considered sloppy by you, so I really don't see how a two-letter command (!bl) is sloppy or difficult.
Re: Flame War split from Win32 Forum - started by Teh-Pwnerer [message #236186 is a reply to message #235791] Thu, 28 December 2006 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Will someone post a reply or "Shut the fuck up" plz.

This is an issue between a few people, its certainly not hot, brave, cool or whatever the fuck you want to call it.

Now get the fuck out of here. OH!! plz. ty

Alternatively, move this post elsewhere.

If a kind Mod deems it appropriate. Blush
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Alternatively:-

Try this,

http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=thread&frm_id=7&rid=21049
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puddle_splasher wrote on Thu, 28 December 2006 20:09


Alternatively, move this post elsewhere.


Where would you suggest to move it to Listen I think it is less harmful for the forums if you put it here than where it originally came from (winfds).
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fl00d3d wrote on Thu, 28 December 2006 11:53

What happens when you want to relinquish the vehicle to another? Or if you want to bail out of the tank before it blows up so the enemy doesn't get the points for an "enemy controlled vehicle"? The only way to do that would be to type in a command thus removing the whole argument of "sloppiness". I guess automatic binding would be nice if there was a way to un-do it ... but undo-ing it would still be considered sloppy by you, so I really don't see how a two-letter command (!bl) is sloppy or difficult.


There would have to be a command to give ownership to another player, and there would be no points awarded to a player if they blow up an empty vehicle. I don't see any way around needing a command if you wish to give your vehicle to someone else and I think the way I have planned is as graceful as it can get. But you shouldn't have to type a command just to say you own a vehicle that you purchased.


I'm the bawss.
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puddle_splasher wrote on Thu, 28 December 2006 12:09


Alternatively, move this post elsewhere.

If a kind Mod deems it appropriate. Blush


Yeah, because why should a flame war be in the Hot Topics forum? Roll Eyes


I'm the bawss.
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This thread is as pointless as the thread creator and that is saying something. Wouldn't it be more pro active to contact the developers and give them feedback in person perhaps?

The topic did indeed bring people's thoughts 'into the light' however I really don't think this is the best way to do it. Looks like someone had a bad Christmas and wants to take it out on people on the internet.
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Crimson wrote on Thu, 28 December 2006 21:03

There would have to be a command to give ownership to another player, and there would be no points awarded to a player if they blow up an empty vehicle. I don't see any way around needing a command if you wish to give your vehicle to someone else and I think the way I have planned is as graceful as it can get. But you shouldn't have to type a command just to say you own a vehicle that you purchased.

I never use !bl though, if I use a command like that, I prefer to just !bind my vehicle. If you are out of your vehicle for example to repair it or to defend the base from people who entered a building to destroy it, a teammate could rescue the vehicle by keeping it out of the hands of the enemy, but if an annoying "This vehicle is locked and belongs to <player>" pops up, both the brave teammate and the vehicle are lost Sarcasm

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I agree. My system just pages the vehicle owner saying "XXX got in your vehicle. Type !something to eject him or !something_else to give him ownership of the vehicle." The guy who gets in gets paged with "This vehicle belongs to YYY. Please do not take off with it unless he gives it to you." Of course I will word it better.

I'm the bawss.
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Crimson wrote on Fri, 29 December 2006 00:27

I agree. My system just pages the vehicle owner saying "XXX got in your vehicle. Type !something to eject him or !something_else to give him ownership of the vehicle." The guy who gets in gets paged with "This vehicle belongs to YYY. Please do not take off with it unless he gives it to you." Of course I will word it better.


Ok, that's pretty cool Satisfied
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