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APB: TOZ-194 [message #235352] Thu, 21 December 2006 22:07 Go to next message
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Re: APB: TOZ-194 [message #235355 is a reply to message #235352] Thu, 21 December 2006 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mjfabian wrote on Thu, 21 December 2006 23:07

http://www.apathbeyond.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10822&st=0&#entry21 9962

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Re: APB: TOZ-194 [message #235501 is a reply to message #235352] Fri, 22 December 2006 17:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The APB testers already are using the weapon with the stats alone, but this will probably be included in the next big internal build.
Re: APB: TOZ-194 [message #235738 is a reply to message #235352] Mon, 25 December 2006 04:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i played red alert 1 when i was... uhm... way younger, but i don't recall a shotgun being in the game. Are you guys trying to perfectly recreate ra1 or building on it?

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Re: APB: TOZ-194 [message #235752 is a reply to message #235738] Mon, 25 December 2006 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renegade has a shot gun trooper, I suppose their just trying to fill the empty buy slots.

Re: APB: TOZ-194 [message #235766 is a reply to message #235352] Mon, 25 December 2006 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The shotgun is not there simply to 'fill empty buy slots'. Possibly upsetting the balance of the game, just to do that, would be quite idiotic. No.

The Soviet commissars and Allied sergeants will be there to fill an Anti-Infantry role, not simply fill and empty buy slot, infact from what I've heard they will not be free units. So your assumption that they're only there to fill and empty slot is quite incorrect.

No, they're there to fill the purely anti-infantry role, something that is needed for the further balance of the gameplay. Just like there werent snipers in Red Alert, there are in APB, for the sake of balance and gameplay.

Oh and as for being in RA? There's a few cutscenes showing off troops with shotgun.


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Re: APB: TOZ-194 [message #235769 is a reply to message #235766] Mon, 25 December 2006 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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_ToXiN_ wrote on Mon, 25 December 2006 12:45


The Soviet commissars and Allied sergeants will be there to fill an Anti-Infantry role, not simply fill and empty buy slot, infact from what I've heard they will not be free units. So your assumption that they're only there to fill and empty slot is quite incorrect.


Slot 9 is empty on both teams.

_ToXiN_ wrote on Mon, 25 December 2006 12:45


No, they're there to fill the purely anti-infantry role, something that is needed for the further balance of the gameplay.


It would be balancing if the allies had a shot gun and the soviets did not, and the officer and flame trooper are pretty good anti infantry.

_ToXiN_ wrote on Mon, 25 December 2006 12:45


Just like there werent snipers in Red Alert, there are in APB, for the sake of balance and gameplay.


Just add to gameplay. If both teams did not have snipers it would still be balanced.

_ToXiN_ wrote on Mon, 25 December 2006 12:45


Oh and as for being in RA? There's a few cutscenes showing off troops with shotgun.

There are planes in RA and they still have not added those in, and they are actually in the game, and the movies to.


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Re: APB: TOZ-194 [message #235841 is a reply to message #235352] Tue, 26 December 2006 02:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You could see shotguns in the movies between missions. Also in some trailer, where Tanya destroyed some facility.

So it is true to RA and it's not to fill up some slots.

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Re: APB: TOZ-194 [message #235842 is a reply to message #235841] Tue, 26 December 2006 02:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Still no planes which are INGAME, but ya it would make more sense to spend your time and energy on adding in a weapon that is seen in 1 movie.

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Re: APB: TOZ-194 [message #235849 is a reply to message #235842] Tue, 26 December 2006 06:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerad Gray wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 04:49

Still no planes which are INGAME, but ya it would make more sense to spend your time and energy on adding in a weapon that is seen in 1 movie.


When did we ever say that we weren't going to add planes to the mod? Never? Because if we had said that, then what you're trying to argue wouldn't actually be completely irrelevant. They're already modeled and textured and planned, they just need to be animated and scripted to be beacon activated airstrikes.

And if you haven't noticed, we have a team working on the mod, as in more then one person doing more then one thing, having a (new) person texture a weapon in no way affects the progress of a couple vehicles being animated/scripted/etc.

And there were several movies in RA that showed the shotgun, not just one.


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Re: APB: TOZ-194 [message #235867 is a reply to message #235849] Tue, 26 December 2006 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir Phoenixx wrote on Tue, 26 December 2006 06:33


And there were several movies in RA that showed the shotgun, not just one.

What about being fired...
BTW, how are the dogs coming, you know because that would help even out the infantry count.


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Re: APB: TOZ-194 [message #235907 is a reply to message #235352] Tue, 26 December 2006 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it were me, I would only put stuff in the mod if it was in the actual game, not the cutscenes.
Re: APB: TOZ-194 [message #236013 is a reply to message #235352] Wed, 27 December 2006 02:09 Go to previous message
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I think it's a good idea, At least they've gotten somewhat creative.

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