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Silent Kane (via BHS) will be releasing a HOT pack of fixes very soon!

We just figured out a key piece of information we needed in order to get the serial hash of ANY PLAYER CONNECTED TO YOUR SERVER. What the means is bots can now have a TRUE serial-based ban, completely independent of whether or not the player is running RenGuard, and completely independent of whether the player is using GSA or WOL to connect!

The fix creates a console command that bot creators will have to request for each player when they connect for comparison purposes. All bot creators should PM me to find out what to expect in the response.

The other fixes are related to the ladder. Any of you who have been watching the ladder stats may have noticed that players with nicknames over 10 characters in length are truncated (except on the n00bstories server which is already running/testing the fix) and the map name sent in the results is actually the map AFTER the one the results are for. Both of these problems will be fixed when you use the fix that we will be releasing.

A round of applause for Silent Kane's leet talents!


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Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234675 is a reply to message #234673] Sun, 17 December 2006 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hurrah! Serial bans!
Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234677 is a reply to message #234673] Sun, 17 December 2006 17:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DOWN WITH HACKERS!


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Memphis wrote on Tue, 15 May 2007 03:54

...fatally die to death...


I don't know if you meant to do that, but triple redundancy for teh win. I LOL'ed.


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Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234681 is a reply to message #234673] Sun, 17 December 2006 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Let me take this time to say what everybody knows:

SK > jonwil

I know SK would like that said. Smile


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Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234682 is a reply to message #234673] Sun, 17 December 2006 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very Nice.

Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234693 is a reply to message #234673] Sun, 17 December 2006 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sweet, I've been waiting for something like this Smile
Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234705 is a reply to message #234673] Sun, 17 December 2006 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ownage, very nice work SK, you are the man. Thumbs Up
Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234706 is a reply to message #234673] Sun, 17 December 2006 18:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Damn, that Silent Kane dude made another hot thing for Renegade.

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Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234707 is a reply to message #234706] Sun, 17 December 2006 18:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Silent Kane wrote on Sun, 17 December 2006 20:54

Damn, that Silent Kane dude made another hot thing for Renegade.

Yeah, what a prick is he to show up the amazing jonwil? Fucking bastard he is.


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Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234712 is a reply to message #234673] Sun, 17 December 2006 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Apparently, Silent Kane is not so silent regarding nonsilent Kanes.


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Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234726 is a reply to message #234673] Sun, 17 December 2006 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What if the player changed the registry key with +1 or -1?
Will the addon have a basic serial validation?
Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234737 is a reply to message #234673] Mon, 18 December 2006 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am I the only one who sees this ending in serial theft?

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Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234739 is a reply to message #234737] Mon, 18 December 2006 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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light wrote on Mon, 18 December 2006 15:37

Am I the only one who sees this ending in serial theft?


Nope, but like most things that are made for good, will in the end be abused.
Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234745 is a reply to message #234737] Mon, 18 December 2006 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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light wrote on Mon, 18 December 2006 08:37

Am I the only one who sees this ending in serial theft?

Only if you are able to reverse the hash, and from what I've seen thats hard, very hard.

We where also exprimenting with this, though we didnt really finished it (yet), for now we can just get the serialhash of the first player(id). Sarcasm


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Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234746 is a reply to message #234673] Mon, 18 December 2006 01:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson, will the console command to find out a players serial hash be put in bandtest.dll? And if so, will the source code for the modified bandtest.dll be released?


Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234752 is a reply to message #234673] Mon, 18 December 2006 01:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Absolutely not. We've already seen what happens when source code is released.

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Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234756 is a reply to message #234673] Mon, 18 December 2006 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is this the same serial hash we can find in the registry? If not: GG! If yes: oh-oh.

Nice work anyway, Silent kane. Jonwil and you could make a great team if only there wasn't this vendetta...


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This is NOT the same serial from the registry. It's a hash.

I'm the bawss.
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Crimson wrote on Mon, 18 December 2006 10:30

This is NOT the same serial from the registry. It's a hash.


I thought the one in the registry is also a hash ?


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Re: Coming VERY soon - HOT HOT HOT! [message #234763 is a reply to message #234673] Mon, 18 December 2006 04:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The one in the Registry is a shitty encrypted serial. And the serial you get from the client is twice hashed, making reversing it almost impossible.

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OK, then I say GG!

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i know i want the moon on a stick but any news of that new hud mr kane? excuse my typing im eating a bagette

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I think this is great. I don't know what else to say about it. I really can't worry about serial theft if the hash is encrypted.

Goztow wrote on Mon, 18 December 2006 04:16

Jonwil and you could make a great team if only there wasn't this vendetta...

Sure, if jonwil didn't have a huge ego and wasn't such a worthless fuck.

Remember, bugs that jonwil can't figure out how to fix are unable to be fixed, because if they could be, he would have fixed them already. He's just that leet. Jonwil counted to infinity - twice.


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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 18 December 2006 01:22

light wrote on Mon, 18 December 2006 08:37

Am I the only one who sees this ending in serial theft?

Only if you are able to reverse the hash, and from what I've seen thats hard, very hard.

We where also exprimenting with this, though we didnt really finished it (yet), for now we can just get the serialhash of the first player(id). Sarcasm


If it is a one way hash, lol, good luck with that. One way hash code is nearly impossible to reverse unless by brute force.

Goztow wrote on Mon, 18 December 2006 02:16

Is this the same serial hash we can find in the registry? If not: GG! If yes: oh-oh.

Nice work anyway, Silent kane. Jonwil and you could make a great team if only there wasn't this vendetta...


A hash is a random set of numbers generated from a string of text. The function uses a math equation which is literally quite random.


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