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icon5.gif  Renguard Not Working [message #230226] Sun, 12 November 2006 20:54 Go to next message
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OK, I have had Ren since around '03, and I have a problem with RG for the first time now. I uninstalled it for a while about a year ago for some reason I dont remember. I recently started playing Ren again, installed RG, and it would come up but, it was white. It was just a white window with a little window on the top-left of it. About 5 secs later, it brings up an error message. Game.exe has encountered a problems and needs to close, I have the option of sending an error message or debugging it. I click debug, the window closes, and Ren doesn't start. I have tried zunnies tutorial "Simple Guide to install Renguard no cd included" and it did not work. I saved my data folder to my desktop, uninstalled Ren, uninstalled RG, installed Ren, updated to Ren ver 1.037, logged into WOL, logged out of WOL, installed RG, and it does the same thing. please help me because i've been !forcerg'd from 5 servers cause i 0WN with a shotgun. someone please help me cause i hate being kicked, for being a good player Angry
Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230227 is a reply to message #230226] Sun, 12 November 2006 21:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i have the same problem. and so far no one here has come up with anything helpful, not to say they won't, but it hasn't happened yet.
Since, like me, it has worked for you in the past, it's a safe assumption it's not your computer - ie, they will ask if you have a 64 bit chip or windows 2000 or other irrelevant stuff.\
Or they will bring up the usual "is your firewall blocking it?"
duh...

Since we have the same problem, do you update windows frequently? What other programs do you have that may affect this? And if possible, a screenshot of the problem and your desktop?
Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230228 is a reply to message #230227] Sun, 12 November 2006 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, i update windows whenever it says i can, and i have no other programs that have near anything to do with Ren. Of course I have Tib Sun, and Red Alert 2, but no other programs that could affect anything with Ren
Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230235 is a reply to message #230226] Sun, 12 November 2006 22:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nothing in your Renegade folder? Sometimes I get this error when I have RenD3D9 in my folder. As for Windoze 2000 and 64-bit versions, SVKP, the packer used in RenGuard, does not work on those platforms.
Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230239 is a reply to message #230226] Sun, 12 November 2006 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok. some of the threads i've read say that windows update might be to blame. which particular update, not sure. KB917422 has caused a lot of gam related issues, but after i removed it, yes it is possible, the problem persisted.
also, you said you reinstalled Ren, i'm assuming you used your old Renegade disks, NOT The First Decade. This correct?
Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230246 is a reply to message #230226] Mon, 13 November 2006 00:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's one of the windows genuine advantage updates, noone knows exactly why it messes up RG, but it does. And you can't uninstall the WGA updates...

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Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230247 is a reply to message #230246] Mon, 13 November 2006 00:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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danpaul88 wrote on Mon, 13 November 2006 08:38

It's one of the windows genuine advantage updates, noone knows exactly why it messes up RG, but it does. And you can't uninstall the WGA updates...

Google doesn't agree.


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Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230252 is a reply to message #230226] Mon, 13 November 2006 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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google does not read these forums properly then Sarcasm


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Contradicting yourself gozy?

Goztow wrote on Fri, 27 October 2006 07:18

I'd go for the Windows update issue.



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Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230255 is a reply to message #230226] Mon, 13 November 2006 01:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

And you can't uninstall the WGA updates...

Quote:

Google doesn't agree


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Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230261 is a reply to message #230226] Mon, 13 November 2006 02:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah, well you didn't specify which part of the post you were referring to. As for uninstalling it, I meant officially there is no way to uninstall WGA.

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Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230264 is a reply to message #230261] Mon, 13 November 2006 02:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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danpaul88 wrote on Mon, 13 November 2006 10:44

Ah, well you didn't specify which part of the post you were referring to. As for uninstalling it, I meant officially there is no way to uninstall WGA.

Microsoft proposes a very slumpy and hard way to uninstall WGA on their own site: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921914


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Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230288 is a reply to message #230226] Mon, 13 November 2006 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hmm, must have been a update for the firewall since Renguard can bypass the Windows Firewall without Windows FW knowing it, thats why you should always use an alternative instead of Win FW


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That doesn't suprise me.. Alot of games went incompatible or unstable when SP2 was released there is some occasions where it works fine but it has done more harm. I hope that Renegade will usable in a decent way with Vista else it's going to be a no no anyways.


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Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230305 is a reply to message #230264] Mon, 13 November 2006 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Mon, 13 November 2006 09:57

danpaul88 wrote on Mon, 13 November 2006 10:44

Ah, well you didn't specify which part of the post you were referring to. As for uninstalling it, I meant officially there is no way to uninstall WGA.

Microsoft proposes a very slumpy and hard way to uninstall WGA on their own site: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921914



Read it again gozy, thats to uninstall the PILOT version, which was phased out ages ago. The only reason they posted that is because the pilot version was classified as malware because it 'called home' to Microsoft every 5 seconds. The newer versions of WGA do not do this.


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Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230325 is a reply to message #230305] Mon, 13 November 2006 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, since there is so much arguement about updating windows, and removing it, it chose not to. I have emptied my whole data folder for Ren EXCEPT the files that were in there when i reinstalled ren (i moved my WHOLE data to desktop)but, should I get rid of the files in my renegade folder? how do i know what to move? any answers would be helpful. thanks.
Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230329 is a reply to message #230226] Mon, 13 November 2006 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To get rid of the problem caused by windows updates you either have to try and hack WGA out of your system (using the instructions gozy posted, which are not supported for the newer versions, but it is noted they *might* work), or reinstall windows.

Simply reinstalling Renegade / RenGuard will most likely NOT fix the problem, but you are welcome to try. When RG 1.04 comes out it will most likely not be affected by this problem. (And don't ask when that will be, as you won't get an answer. It's ready when it's ready).


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Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230345 is a reply to message #230329] Mon, 13 November 2006 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thanks danpaul, but I really don't feel like going through those tough as nails, user unfriendly, instructions on how to just remove stupid updates. i will just wait for RG 1.04 to come out, uninstall my piece of bugged @#$% RG, and be happy Big Grin . thanks for everybody trying to help but thanks to gozy and danpaul for *solving* my problem. If I do end up getting a server, i will use BrenBot, because i know danpaul wont make lousy piece of @#$% code for it. XD Big Ups

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Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230403 is a reply to message #230226] Tue, 14 November 2006 01:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I still suggest you google 'uninstall WGA updates'. Some people have made easy to use programs that do what microsoft proposes in your place.

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Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230441 is a reply to message #230226] Tue, 14 November 2006 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As a note to RG devolpers, I have that update installed, but due to a long story I won't bore you with, My copy of Windows didn't validate, I do -not- have this problem. Mind, I never once had a problem with RG...

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Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230489 is a reply to message #230403] Tue, 14 November 2006 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok thanks, I will look for an easier war to do it
Re: Renguard Not Working [message #230491 is a reply to message #230489] Tue, 14 November 2006 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok, well i found a few tutorials and programs that looked easy, except one problem: they didn't agree. Some would say to just uninstall WGA, some say to just get an alternate update mechanism, and a lot of other things like renaming certain files, so i am not sure what i should do because i dont know a whole lot about computers. Huh But, if you could either tell me what to do, or just tell me when RG 1.04 is coming out, or at least the BETA, tell me.

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