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who thinks this is cheating [message #229764] Thu, 09 November 2006 10:33 Go to next message
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do you think harvister walking to get past base defences is cheating?

i don't.
Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #229769 is a reply to message #229764] Thu, 09 November 2006 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Um no, but it could be considered unfair.

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Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #229790 is a reply to message #229764] Thu, 09 November 2006 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Let's see:

- both sides can do it
- you just walk behind a moving object
- the harvester is ment to be big enough for a player to hide behind it
- ...

Nope.


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Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #229796 is a reply to message #229764] Thu, 09 November 2006 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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people wont consider it cheating... until someone kill's their base... they'll get mad yell THAT'S CHEATING!!!
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bluethen wrote on Thu, 09 November 2006 13:22

people wont consider it cheating... until someone kill's their base... they'll get mad yell THAT'S CHEATING!!!


Good point, lol
Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #229874 is a reply to message #229764] Fri, 10 November 2006 00:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd say it is fair.

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Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #229877 is a reply to message #229790] Fri, 10 November 2006 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Thu, 09 November 2006 13:44


- the harvester is ment to be big enough for a player to hide behind it.


Really?

Sniper_De7 wrote on Thu, 09 November 2006 12:14

Um no, but it could be considered unfair.


How?


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Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #229895 is a reply to message #229764] Fri, 10 November 2006 04:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It could be considered unfair because in some maps you can follow harvester and get to more than one building than if you were GDI/Nod. However if both team mines the harv path than it could be fair again, but on a map in particular, you can follow it from two directions and so you have to waste twice as much mines Which is generally fine because it's a map that you don't have to worry about mining building entrances save for one, however the team already has an advantage so it really isn't the end of the world.

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Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #229959 is a reply to message #229764] Fri, 10 November 2006 22:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I do it on C&C_City_Flying when i'm Nod (oviously) But apart from that nope.. Seems harder on more maps.

I just like my tanks more than infantry.




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Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #230024 is a reply to message #229895] Sat, 11 November 2006 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 10 November 2006 05:43

It could be considered unfair because in some maps you can follow harvester and get to more than one building than if you were GDI/Nod. However if both team mines the harv path than it could be fair again, but on a map in particular, you can follow it from two directions and so you have to waste twice as much mines Which is generally fine because it's a map that you don't have to worry about mining building entrances save for one, however the team already has an advantage so it really isn't the end of the world.


C&C City_Flying.mix seems to have equal entrances via harvestors, although, the AGT would probably shoot at you and make noise and cause an investigation compaired to the Obelisk. So really it is actually unfair because the Obolisk would only power up but not shoot a you and give away your position.


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Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #230057 is a reply to message #230024] Sat, 11 November 2006 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thrash300 wrote on Sat, 11 November 2006 15:09

Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 10 November 2006 05:43

It could be considered unfair because in some maps you can follow harvester and get to more than one building than if you were GDI/Nod. However if both team mines the harv path than it could be fair again, but on a map in particular, you can follow it from two directions and so you have to waste twice as much mines Which is generally fine because it's a map that you don't have to worry about mining building entrances save for one, however the team already has an advantage so it really isn't the end of the world.


C&C City_Flying.mix seems to have equal entrances via harvestors, although, the AGT would probably shoot at you and make noise and cause an investigation compaired to the Obelisk. So really it is actually unfair because the Obolisk would only power up but not shoot a you and give away your position.



I'd agree... but there are turrets all around that points it's nozzle at you... people just ignore it.
Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #230070 is a reply to message #229764] Sat, 11 November 2006 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think sniper_de7 is cheating
Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #230074 is a reply to message #229764] Sat, 11 November 2006 19:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mrpirate thinks sniper_de7 is cheating. 2 more users required to !forcerg.

Doesn't seem to be a bug, so I'd say technically legal. But up to the servers to decide.


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Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #230093 is a reply to message #230074] Sat, 11 November 2006 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SpyGuy246 wrote on Sat, 11 November 2006 20:01

But up to the servers to decide.


True. It actually has a lot on whose team you are on. Man isn't it annoying when you join a game and you hear: "GDI, or NOD Power Plant Destroyed?! And you see explosions everywhere, and your team is frantically trying to repair the building that you are in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #230139 is a reply to message #230024] Sun, 12 November 2006 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thrash300 wrote on Sat, 11 November 2006 16:09

Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 10 November 2006 05:43

It could be considered unfair because in some maps you can follow harvester and get to more than one building than if you were GDI/Nod. However if both team mines the harv path than it could be fair again, but on a map in particular, you can follow it from two directions and so you have to waste twice as much mines Which is generally fine because it's a map that you don't have to worry about mining building entrances save for one, however the team already has an advantage so it really isn't the end of the world.


C&C City_Flying.mix seems to have equal entrances via harvestors, although, the AGT would probably shoot at you and make noise and cause an investigation compaired to the Obelisk. So really it is actually unfair because the Obolisk would only power up but not shoot a you and give away your position.

But nod has sbhs, and gdi doesn't.
Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #230141 is a reply to message #229764] Sun, 12 November 2006 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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that's why it's pretty impossible to say it's fair/unfair because there are so many different things that can be taken into account, but if you mine the harvester path it doesn't matter for either team, unless on the map in particular where you can follow the harv path from two directions and you have to spend twice as much c4. But it doesn't really matter that much because Nod is already at a disadvantage on that particular map

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AGT will fire even if a SbH is behind a Harvester.

at this map SbH's are a good idea if the power or AGT is down. Before this happend they will get nailed. Uhm, sometimes it works to use a buggy and a sbh with nuke.... drive behind the barracks.. let the buggie blow. if you are lucky GDI ignore you behind the barracks and you can place your nuke when GDI is rushing... same is possible without SbH behind the Wf... but if your team doesn't work together... don't blow up the Wf at city.
usually you will loose that on publics by points.


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I don't even know what you're talking about though, the AGT and obelisk won't shoot you if you're following the harv correctly, the only thing that might shoot you is the turrets on some map and that could be seen/heard so that's a disadvantage for GDI, i guess

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Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #230340 is a reply to message #229764] Mon, 13 November 2006 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i am hoping to put a feature in the sbot to stop harv walking if wanted. but it depends on server owner/map if it is considerd cheating/unfair.

the reason i started this is because it is alot easier (for me) to do this to nod han gdi. on gdi if i step out of line for even a second i get shot by the agt gun. it takes less than 6 hits to die.

but i dont see why on some servers it is considers cheating :/
Re: who thinks this is cheating [message #230449 is a reply to message #229764] Tue, 14 November 2006 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Because in real warfare, you wouldn't get away with walking in behind an automated harvester... I guess. even if you were a SBH.


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CarrierII wrote on Tue, 14 November 2006 12:39

Because in real warfare, you wouldn't get away with walking in behind an automated harvester... I guess. even if you were a SBH.




no realism please - no such thing as big giant laser beam that defends bases.


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but there ARE stealth suits you can wear that make you invisible idiot

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MrWiggles wrote on Wed, 15 November 2006 07:59

but there ARE stealth suits you can wear that make you invisible idiot


ummm, actually it makes u less noticable NOT invisible, nd the real life stealth technology now isnt that high, so ya no such thing as invisible in todays world


these are the times when ur like why God WHY!!!???
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