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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229244 is a reply to message #225497] |
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You're really kidding yourself if you think jimbo would have gotten a team, XP maybe, jimbo no. Besides, as far as I know.. XP was gamespy, too, but whatever
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It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229298 is a reply to message #225497] |
Sun, 05 November 2006 15:28 |
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It's later than anything you could consider before, but I would consider our BR match more of westwood vs GSA than that. XP got people he knew more than people who would have considered the best. We played +BR+ and we won 3 out of 4, Field and Mesa, and obviously both teams won GDI on field. (5v5)
Line up being Peter, Zetti, Rohirrim, Sniper_de7, Zephyr, Scott. Probably one of the best line up for november of 2003.(for gse)
BR would take the cake for any arranged WOL game though, lol, I'd rather pick a team of players who've played together more than random players who supposedly are good. So if you want to say a best WOL team I'd say BR, in its time of course..
But, like I said, WOL clans didn't play 8v8 and 10v10s as much as gamespy did, and that's why it's a little more of an advantage for us when we played more than 6v6. We played them 5v5, but it was a fun game even though we did get raped as Nod on Field.
Anyways like I said this GSA vs wol now would be a farce i mean XP is from GSA and so is jimbo and to have XP even pick the teams for WOL would just be kinda dumb since he's from GSA. I don't really know all who came from GSA. I don't even think roh originally came from gamespy either, but he played both pretty much evenly.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229452 is a reply to message #225497] |
Mon, 06 November 2006 20:57 |
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Is this going to happen or not? I haven't heard from the captains and I haven't heard complaints against who is captain ...
...so, I'm assuming this game is still on.
Since there are questions in the air and not enough confirmation - lets bump this back a week to the 18th of November. If there isn't enough confirmation (interests) from both sides by the 11th (this coming saturday) we'll just assume that this isn't going to work out and that neither side wants to play the other.
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229458 is a reply to message #225497] |
Mon, 06 November 2006 21:52 |
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You haven't heard ANYTHING from the captains, because they don't frequent this place, like, ever. Pick new ones if you want or vote or whatever the hell you want to do. 15v15 is pretty stupid :\
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229461 is a reply to message #225497] |
Mon, 06 November 2006 22:42 |
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I will be there for the game...
Also... Those screenshots.... I don't even remember those games. And I highly doubt that was WOL vs GSA. That was more of a clanmatch. MoP, KFC, and I were all from GSA at the time. And just like De7 said, I prob am more GSA than WOL still.
And also, I said I would be captain for WOL because I wanted this to be a fun thing. Not turn into a flame war. GW, I have messaged your leader's on GSA for the past MONTH... And you guys will not play DGAFF (my current clan) in a clan match. I figure you guys being 163 - 0 wouldn't fear us much. More importantly, lets not turn this into a flame war and make this no fun. It's not about whose better, WOL or GSA. It's about fun. Sure it's fun to win, but this game doesn't mean GSA is better than WOL or vice versa. No one will ever no, and no really cares. If you want this to be no fun ill truley pick a clanwars.cc team and we'll see how it turns out. I don't want tha though. I want WOL players to have a chance to have fun in a match against GSA. Win or Lose.
The best players in Renegade play on both WOL and GSA. n00bs play on one or the other, but they don't care which service is better because they don't know any different.
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229465 is a reply to message #229244] |
Mon, 06 November 2006 23:14 |
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Sun, 05 November 2006 04:35 |
You're really kidding yourself if you think jimbo would have gotten a team, XP maybe, jimbo no. Besides, as far as I know.. XP was gamespy, too, but whatever
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What's that supposed to mean 
I haven't been on at all lately due to unexpected business (and it's nowhere near done). So yeah, if you guys wanna still do this, I'll play but find another captain.
Also, regarding that gse v BR, thats about as close as it gets to the top players from GSA vs the top from WOL.
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229473 is a reply to message #225497] |
Tue, 07 November 2006 01:30 |
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It's starting to fly off topic again. 
Any more news on dates, servers, etc etc? I'm looking forward to this.
If you want someone to record it, i'll record it, but you need to consider (and possibly edit) the maps to be used since i'll be put on the newutral team and i spawn at 0,0,0. Sometimes that's underground or in the ground so i'll be unable to see/move. Add a teleporter at 0,0,0 to a decent position so i'll spawn above ground in the field, and get some decent footage 
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229491 is a reply to message #229465] |
Tue, 07 November 2006 05:31 |
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| Jimbo27 wrote on Tue, 07 November 2006 00:14 |
| Sniper_De7 wrote on Sun, 05 November 2006 04:35 |
You're really kidding yourself if you think jimbo would have gotten a team, XP maybe, jimbo no. Besides, as far as I know.. XP was gamespy, too, but whatever
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What's that supposed to mean
I haven't been on at all lately due to unexpected business (and it's nowhere near done). So yeah, if you guys wanna still do this, I'll play but find another captain.
Also, regarding that gse v BR, thats about as close as it gets to the top players from GSA vs the top from WOL.
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It doesn't mean anything apart from what you've just said. You don't really visit these forums that much. I mean when you haven't responded in the topic or actually managed to get people. Not ripping on you but just saying I didn't think you'd have enough time on your hands to get a whole bunch of players and then be sure to make a scheduled time, but if you are, cool I guess.
As for XP, Yeah, that wasn't a team of the best WOL, that's why I showed the BR game instead because Acey showed that screenshot (granted, we don't have a screenshot of the BR game because something happened to all our screenshots that scott had when he left, so it's not like he could have shown a screenshot of the BR game). The game we played you told peter or someone that you were going to get WOL players(people who played wol clanwars, not really people specifically FROM wol) to play against us. I think you said you were going to try and get the better ones, but yeah I know that it isn't nearly what would have been considered the best at the time, anyways. And yeah, at those times the only thing GSA really had to offer was gse in terms of skill :\, so anything GSA vs WOL would have been gse vs WOL. I do recognize a lot of the guys' names on there, though.
As for the game, well, I only would enjoy like 8v8-10v10 or at least when I'm in a tank, because playing infantry is boring as hell.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229529 is a reply to message #225497] |
Tue, 07 November 2006 13:01 |
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Yeah... Well like I said its impossible to say who was the better team, WOL or GSA. As the game moves forward, players change... There have been times in this game where no clans could be touched. DoA was the first unstoppable clan, WL should be mentioned, TA was one of the best at one point, FE, BR, gse possibly the best of all time... Like DoA and BR were the same clan, except for the fact that Clearsh0t and ApocD2 wern't in BR. Add those two (both WOL players to the mix) and its a whole different game. Like when DoA was stacked, that clan was stacked... Then they broke up into BR, FE, Roh joined gse, ApocD2 and CowsMoo retired... Honestly I think gse vs DoA/BR would have been the best match in the game's history.
The games changed as well... When we were stacked in TA, the game was played by buying all ST's and having a big rush and so on... Now the game is played by teching and point whoring to win matches.
Like I said, I think its impossible to figure out who the better team is or was. Trying to imagine the retired stars of GSA, and stars of today... The retired stars of WOL, and the stars of today...
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So I guess what were really trying to accomplish here is to figure out who the better service is at this point? As of 11/7/06.
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229535 is a reply to message #225497] |
Tue, 07 November 2006 13:33 |
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Crimson can you put an announcement on the site / RG screen so that this gets more attention? We can do that once we agree on a day and time ... that way it will be a matter of who shows up to play and not so much who picks who. If 30 people show up for GSA and 15 show up for WOL then it will be slim pickins for the WOL side. Therefore it will be up to individuals and clans who plan to represent their 'side' by going out and informing people of this war.
Date: November 18th, 2006
Time: 6pm GMT
Any objections to that date and time?
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229601 is a reply to message #225497] |
Tue, 07 November 2006 23:26 |
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But even more people don't. lol
The time is on a weekend two weeks in advance - you should be able to work around it. We have to accommodate a lot of different timezones and I think a Saturday at that time is more fair to everyone (favoring mostly eastern US and western Euro).
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229669 is a reply to message #229461] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 12:49 |
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| Xtr3m3Pr0 wrote on Tue, 07 November 2006 06:42 |
GW, I have messaged your leader's on GSA for the past MONTH... And you guys will not play DGAFF (my current clan) in a clan match. I figure you guys being 163 - 0 wouldn't fear us much. .
The best players in Renegade play on both WOL and GSA. n00bs play on one or the other, but they don't care which service is better because they don't know any different.
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The main reason is some of us don't play that much anymore. To be honest anything below 4v4 i don't like to play. Plus another reason is as i've only just started playing this game again on any kind of skill level and only me and Dan still really play. So we wouldn't really be any competition in our current state compared to cw.cc players who play alot at a very high level which i'm not used to.
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229670 is a reply to message #229535] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 12:59 |
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| fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 07 November 2006 15:33 |
Date: November 18th, 2006
Time: 6pm GMT
Any objections to that date and time?
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #229926 is a reply to message #225497] |
Fri, 10 November 2006 12:59 |
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COMMUNITY EVENT!
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Who: GSA -vs- WOL
What: 12v12 AOW match (4 maps)
Where: <see below>
When: 18 November, 2006 at 4pm GMT
Why: Some business needs to be taken care of 
Alright, let's lock this on the 18th. I'll bump it up to 4pm GMT since it is a weekend and that would better accommodate the euros.
We'll play a total of four maps; two maps -each team playing both sides.
Maps:
Field, Walls_flying
General Rules: Everyone will load into a staging map. Once everyone has loaded, all players will switch to the same team and the map will end. When the first map of the competition loads, all players will remain on the same time until every player has completely loaded. At this point, it will be up to one of the team captains to announce switching, thus starting the game. The rotation will be set to have a staging map between each round so this will be repeated for each map. Pedestal will be off.
Notices: The game will not stop for any circumstance, even if you have players that drop. It is the responsibility of the team captain to ensure reliable players are participating.
Map Rules: No ob walking/glitching (running/dodging/sacrifice is ok). Harv walking is OK. Buddy jumping is OK. "Flaming apcs" are not permitted.
Where to meet? Our clanwar teamspeak will be available to both teams. Channels will be passworded; and passwords will be given to the captains. The address is ts2.tsugaming.com:7331
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I will set the server up with traditional settings (ie. no extra money per harvester dump, no crates, etc.) I will not have Renguard running on the server --for a variety of reasons-- but I think all of you are experienced enough to know when someone is cheating and has the ability to record someone with FRAPS, etc. if they are to show proof later. Hopefully no one would even consider it in a game like this. No advantageous skins will be permitted (such as any skins which permit you to see stealth easier, bright skins, clearscope, etc.).
If there are any other questions or issues to be address - say it now. The event will take place in one weeks time. These maps are popular maps that all of you have already had plenty of clanwar experience on.
If anyone has any specific concerns or needs to get a hold of me, you can add me on MSN: cryptowizard@speakeasy.net
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #230014 is a reply to message #229926] |
Sat, 11 November 2006 13:17 |
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| fl00d3d wrote on Fri, 10 November 2006 20:59 |
No advantageous skins will be permitted (such as any skins which permit you to see stealth easier, bright skins, clearscope, etc.)
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Ummm...so you're saying pure rg?
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 Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #230015 is a reply to message #225497] |
Sat, 11 November 2006 13:26 |
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No, no RenGuard will be running at all. Skins ARE allowed (colored vehicles, custom skins that aren't hypercolored or bright colored dots on sniper's heads, etc.).
I admit that I do use some of these skins myself. As long as the servers permit it and RenGuard doesn't block it - I'm all into spicing up the game. HOWEVER for this game I want to keep it as traditional and "fair" as possible.
I was debating whether or not to run RG, but then I figured (1) This isn't a pub. game and everyone should be experienced enough to catch cheaters in the act (2) A lot of people have RG problems and I don't want it to be used as an excuse ("we lost cuz ____ kept dropping because of RenGuard").
I'm about to post the info on RenegadeCommunity.com. See you all next weekend!
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #230020 is a reply to message #225497] |
Sat, 11 November 2006 13:52 |
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I was playing on XP's team but I'll be in California then, so never mind. Don't reschedule it on my account.
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| Re: GSA v WOL 15v15+ [message #230230 is a reply to message #225497] |
Sun, 12 November 2006 21:53 |
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The game goes on even if 1 person from both sides show. It will be a 1v1 if we must. If only 1 person shows up and they're the most noobie person in the community - their side will win.
I don't want this to be dodged anymore. I'm not saying that those two don't have valid excuses ... but as Spoony said the game needs to remain scheduled. And it IS.
Nothing has changed. Game is on Saturday as planned. Announcement has been made on renegadecommunity.com.
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