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| Re: Global warming - reloaded [message #229009 is a reply to message #228834] |
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jnz
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| IWarriors wrote on Tue, 31 October 2006 15:07 |
| Goztow wrote on Tue, 31 October 2006 07:53 |
| help-linux wrote on Tue, 31 October 2006 13:33 |
| Goztow wrote on Mon, 30 October 2006 15:06 |
| j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 30 October 2006 15:47 |
Why do people always deny that it's a natural cycle? It's been proven several times. The North and South poles have switched positions several times over the course of the world's existence. Climates warm up and cool down.
Plus, Global Warming has yet to be widely accepted by scientists. Last I knew, most scientists didn't believe in Global Warming.
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Yup, keep saying that!
As long as not all scientists agree we must just take the chance and hope the ones saying it will not happen are right! And if they aren't... oh well, we took the shot.
You're playing Russian roulette.
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we suvived the last ice age. we are easily capible of suviving this one.
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We also survived the world wars, that doesn't mean we don't need to do everything we can to stop it from happening again!
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Indeed, if we put enough money into stopping this, we can save our world, but I fear that mankind is too stupid and slow... so much talking and little action...
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ah, but milions died in each war. it be like that in the ace age.
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| Re: Global warming - reloaded [message #229010 is a reply to message #228650] |
Thu, 02 November 2006 16:09 |
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worse case scenario is, that events have already been put into motion, that make ice age inevitable.
so instead of trying to prevent it, why dont we prepare for it; to hopefully lower death counts.
This is a signature. Reading this is wasting your time.
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| Re: Global warming - reloaded [message #229118 is a reply to message #229109] |
Fri, 03 November 2006 21:49 |
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IronWarrior
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| Dave Anderson wrote on Fri, 03 November 2006 20:51 |
You can not prevent mother natures wrath. Ever.
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Of cause you can, only human knownage holds us back.
People said, you couldnt fly and that if you went faster then 100mph, you would die.. they was proven wrong.
You say we cant, but history will always prove you wrong in the end.
To think otherwise is small minded.
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| Re: Global warming - reloaded [message #229125 is a reply to message #228650] |
Sat, 04 November 2006 00:08 |
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Dave Anderson
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You can prevent massive damage from mother nature, yes.
You can prevent harm done to you by mother nature, yes.
You can prevent buildings from being destroyed by mother nature, yes.
But you can not prevent from mother nature creating things like tornado's, hurricanes, title waves, etc. The day humanity can control nature is the day humanity decides to play God. Do I believe humanity can do it? Maybe, I guess it is possible. Do I think humanity will do it? No. Humanity will have destroyed itself by the time it we discover anything remotely close to manipulating nature.
David Anderson
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DCOM Productions
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| Re: Global warming - reloaded [message #229147 is a reply to message #229143] |
Sat, 04 November 2006 07:52 |
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Dave Anderson
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| IWarriors wrote on Sat, 04 November 2006 06:55 |
| Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 04 November 2006 01:08 |
You can prevent massive damage from mother nature, yes.
You can prevent harm done to you by mother nature, yes.
You can prevent buildings from being destroyed by mother nature, yes.
But you can not prevent from mother nature creating things like tornado's, hurricanes, title waves, etc. The day humanity can control nature is the day humanity decides to play God. Do I believe humanity can do it? Maybe, I guess it is possible. Do I think humanity will do it? No. Humanity will have destroyed itself by the time it we discover anything remotely close to manipulating nature.
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Thats a good reply and am in a way gotta agree with most of that.
I think in time you can do anything... but with so much shit in the world... it be a very long and painful road.
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It is rather unfortunate that humanity will not make it to see those days, in my opinion. The manipulating nature thing brings up another good topic as well. "Imagine what humanity would use nature for if we really could manipulate it". Aside, to backup my opinion, I personally think we will run out of resources or be so devastated from war that we won't have the money or technology for those kinds of things anymore.
David Anderson
Founder, Software Consultant
DCOM Productions
Microsoft Partner (MSP)
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| Re: Global warming - reloaded [message #229149 is a reply to message #229125] |
Sat, 04 November 2006 08:27 |
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| Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 04 November 2006 01:08 |
You can prevent massive damage from mother nature, yes.
You can prevent harm done to you by mother nature, yes.
You can prevent buildings from being destroyed by mother nature, yes.
But you can not prevent from mother nature creating things like tornado's, hurricanes, title waves, etc. The day humanity can control nature is the day humanity decides to play God. Do I believe humanity can do it? Maybe, I guess it is possible. Do I think humanity will do it? No. Humanity will have destroyed itself by the time it we discover anything remotely close to manipulating nature.
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What would controlling nature have to do with "playing god"? God doesn't control nature...You know that, right?
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Global warming - reloaded [message #229150 is a reply to message #228650] |
Sat, 04 November 2006 08:30 |
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Dave Anderson
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Actually I don't, because there are no references in the Bible directly saying that God does, or does not control nature. (As far as I have read, anyway. I do not want to get into a religious discussion about that either). My personal opinion is that he does not, but what I meant by humanity "playing God" was by humanity manipulating something that God created, like cloning or toying with DNA.
David Anderson
Founder, Software Consultant
DCOM Productions
Microsoft Partner (MSP)
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| Re: Global warming - reloaded [message #229175 is a reply to message #229150] |
Sat, 04 November 2006 12:54 |
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| Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 04 November 2006 10:30 |
Actually I don't, because there are no references in the Bible directly saying that God does, or does not control nature. (As far as I have read, anyway. I do not want to get into a religious discussion about that either). My personal opinion is that he does not, but what I meant by humanity "playing God" was by humanity manipulating something that God created, like cloning or toying with DNA.
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NOTE THE USE OF THE SUBJUNCTIVE INDICATING A CONDITION CONTRARY TO FACT.
cause = time
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| Re: Global warming - reloaded [message #229188 is a reply to message #228650] |
Sat, 04 November 2006 14:01 |
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Dave Anderson
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And this is why I usually don't post in response to topics like this. There is always someone posting a useless response trying to prove something that doesn't matter. Unless it is someone like JBall, I like getting into discussions with him.
David Anderson
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DCOM Productions
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| Re: Global warming - reloaded [message #229207 is a reply to message #229147] |
Sat, 04 November 2006 14:56 |
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IronWarrior
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| Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 04 November 2006 07:52 |
| IWarriors wrote on Sat, 04 November 2006 06:55 |
| Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 04 November 2006 01:08 |
You can prevent massive damage from mother nature, yes.
You can prevent harm done to you by mother nature, yes.
You can prevent buildings from being destroyed by mother nature, yes.
But you can not prevent from mother nature creating things like tornado's, hurricanes, title waves, etc. The day humanity can control nature is the day humanity decides to play God. Do I believe humanity can do it? Maybe, I guess it is possible. Do I think humanity will do it? No. Humanity will have destroyed itself by the time it we discover anything remotely close to manipulating nature.
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Thats a good reply and am in a way gotta agree with most of that.
I think in time you can do anything... but with so much shit in the world... it be a very long and painful road.
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It is rather unfortunate that humanity will not make it to see those days, in my opinion. The manipulating nature thing brings up another good topic as well. "Imagine what humanity would use nature for if we really could manipulate it". Aside, to backup my opinion, I personally think we will run out of resources or be so devastated from war that we won't have the money or technology for those kinds of things anymore.
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We will run out of the old resources, but new ones are always being designed, for power we can use the sea or the wind, nucler power stations, the list is endless.
I think old Earth has enough resources to last for a very long time, enough and more to land on mars and start living there etc.
Am sure we find a way to live, humans have shown time after time we are good at adapting to where we live.
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| Re: Global warming - reloaded [message #229208 is a reply to message #228650] |
Sat, 04 November 2006 15:07 |
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Dave Anderson
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I think it it would be the most neat thing in the universe to see people being able to live on Mars. Some day Earth is going to run out of room for everyone, I mean, we can only build structures so high, and then we will have to start looking into other areas of living area. Under sea? Other planets? Underground? You brought up a good point of view there.
And yeah, I do agree that we will use up the old resources and develop new ones. Hopefully though, the new resources developed in the future can do us the same good as the resources we have now.
As to humans adapting to their environment, evolution theories are going to go berserk.
David Anderson
Founder, Software Consultant
DCOM Productions
Microsoft Partner (MSP)
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| Re: Global warming - reloaded [message #229269 is a reply to message #229208] |
Sun, 05 November 2006 11:04 |
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IronWarrior
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| Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 04 November 2006 16:07 |
I think it it would be the most neat thing in the universe to see people being able to live on Mars. Some day Earth is going to run out of room for everyone, I mean, we can only build structures so high, and then we will have to start looking into other areas of living area. Under sea? Other planets? Underground? You brought up a good point of view there.
And yeah, I do agree that we will use up the old resources and develop new ones. Hopefully though, the new resources developed in the future can do us the same good as the resources we have now.
As to humans adapting to their environment, evolution theories are going to go berserk.
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Well most scientists agree that human kind must expand and explore to survice, if we stay on Earth we will die, we must move out and live on other worlds if the human race is gonna live.
One day we do but not in our live times, though I would like to see man land on mars for the first time, Nasa wants to do that in the next 20-30 years I heard?
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