| BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227260] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 08:19  |
boozaboy
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WTF. I've been an advid Renegade gamer for almost one year now. I'm not saying that I'm the best out there, but I know how to team play, what the basic strategies are, and how conduct works in the game/generally. So today, I'm playin my first game of the day on my usual server, Ren-ladder.com Public 2, and I get fucken banned for using the !forcerg command. Yes, I obviously utilize renguard. I mean, I was courteous enough to use !rg to see what was up and then saw that this other gamer wasn't using renguard. He had like 40:4 kills and shot me dead with one shot using a basic infantryman. I KNOW that can't happen. Also see like 5 other names of kills by him just after I respawned and before forcerg. So, now I'm 'banned from this channel'. Some one please tell me how and why that is ethical and what I can do to play on that server again. 
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| Re: BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227265 is a reply to message #227262] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 08:42  |
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Yer right. Yes, that is my opinion; hind sight says, no I can't necessarily say that. I don't wish to offend any1. I'm only saying that some of the times I've been playing on different servers other than ren-ladder, I've been frustrated with the lack of team play,etc. and/or when I connect there are no other players currently on those servers.
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| Re: BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227269 is a reply to message #227266] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 10:06 |
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I didn't remember that they had one. So, I will then. I figured that some1 who frequently plays on that server might reply here. Generally, it's the ethics of the situation I wanted to address. How is that right to ban me? I try to do what's right; I downloaded renguard, I don't use any cheat codes, etc. So what then?
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| Re: BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227273 is a reply to message #227260] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 10:33 |
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Find a server that doesn't have poor administration. I dont know the reasoning behind the ban, but taking it for what you said, that's pretty ridiculous.
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| Re: BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227285 is a reply to message #227279] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 11:34 |
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fl00d3d, I used the hotlink for your site and tried to register. After inputing the necessary info, it stated that it could not get mail server response codes, under it was DEBUG MODE (no link). My prob or an error on the site? BTW, very professional. I read all that I could in the various sections on your site.
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| Re: BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227286 is a reply to message #227278] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 11:38 |
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tried n00bstories. i don't mind it. i play on that server once in awhile. Same story though, seems like mostly non-team players and lots of 'n00bs';  hence the name right? lol. IDK, I just don't like to get a Sak or Havoc and try sniping for 30-45 minutes. Rushes are more fun. Plus, you rush once or twice, to take out the base defenses or pp, then everyone can enjoy sniping I guess.
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| Re: BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227292 is a reply to message #227260] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 12:00 |
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For the 19 millionth time, the "n00bstories" server is called that because it's ran by "n00bstories.com" which is a website that was designed to make fun of n00bs. It has no reference to the preferred player skill on the server.
We do, in fact, have a LOT of regulars and TeamSpeak regulation which means you can get on our TeamSpeak server and be automatically placed on a private channel with your teammates for the ultimate in teamplay.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227297 is a reply to message #227285] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 12:06 |
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| boozaboy wrote on Thu, 19 October 2006 19:34 |
fl00d3d, I used the hotlink for your site and tried to register. After inputing the necessary info, it stated that it could not get mail server response codes, under it was DEBUG MODE (no link). My prob or an error on the site? BTW, very professional. I read all that I could in the various sections on your site.
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try logging in with the name you created; i got the same thing when i registered
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| Re: BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227306 is a reply to message #227260] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 13:17 |
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the only server i know of at the mo, where if people arent running cp2 it ruins the fun, is ren-archive ctf - as there is a powerup on there which grants stealth. bad thing is, only cp2 users can see the stealth, and if you pick one up, non-cp2 users still see you :S
anyway, the forcerg command should be used if someone thinks someone else is cheating. if you forcerg someone instead of making a fuss, then the mods/admins wont get angry at you for constantly accusing someone, and telling the mods/admins to kick 'im.
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| Re: BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227325 is a reply to message #227323] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 14:16 |
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| danpaul88 wrote on Thu, 19 October 2006 22:12 |
ForceRG requires three people to use it, so abusers can't forceRg people on their own anyway...
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what people tend to do is, if they see someone forcerg someone else, others will start to do it for no apparent reason
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| Re: BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227350 is a reply to message #227325] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 16:24 |
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| the17doctor wrote on Thu, 19 October 2006 16:16 |
| danpaul88 wrote on Thu, 19 October 2006 22:12 |
ForceRG requires three people to use it, so abusers can't forceRg people on their own anyway...
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what people tend to do is, if they see someone forcerg someone else, others will start to do it for no apparent reason
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That is exactly correct, the17doctor. Many people assume that whenever someone is !forcerg'ed, it is always because they cheat. ForceRG is also flawed in that a) there is no mechanism that I know of by which a moderator can halt a !forcerg in progress and b) there is no way to "shun" someone from !forcerg'ing other players without resorting to a !ban.
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| Re: BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227356 is a reply to message #227260] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 17:06 |
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Why not play in Infinint's server ( sig ) while your at it, last time I checked you were ranked first anyway. And yes n00bstories is actually a fair server, but the high player count makes most expect a high amount of teamwork, which in my opinion ( not to be rude or anything ) just doesnt seem to be happening all that often.
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| Re: BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227360 is a reply to message #227350] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 17:33 |
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| =HT=T-Bird wrote on Fri, 20 October 2006 12:24 |
| the17doctor wrote on Thu, 19 October 2006 16:16 |
| danpaul88 wrote on Thu, 19 October 2006 22:12 |
ForceRG requires three people to use it, so abusers can't forceRg people on their own anyway...
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what people tend to do is, if they see someone forcerg someone else, others will start to do it for no apparent reason
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That is exactly correct, the17doctor. Many people assume that whenever someone is !forcerg'ed, it is always because they cheat. ForceRG is also flawed in that a) there is no mechanism that I know of by which a moderator can halt a !forcerg in progress and b) there is no way to "shun" someone from !forcerg'ing other players without resorting to a !ban.
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It is rare to see a single forcerg. I might also add that you can accumulate 3 forces over a period of 3 months and it will still force you to run RG when you receive the 3rd.
Moderators can use !unforce (this happened on me today) and afaik there is no way to shun, as =HT=T-Bird said.
Besides, in todays climate, with the state RG is in forcing someone to use it offers minimal protection at best, and at worst it's completely useless. !forcerg assumed RenGuard can block cheats, which as of this post is a flawed assumption.
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| Re: BULLSHIT!!! banned for !forcerg [message #227380 is a reply to message #227260] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 23:04 |
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Question: would it be possible to make it so that when you forcerg! someone, no one else would know about it, except that person (and the admins of course)? Just like when you send a private message to someone, but only that person can see your message.
I am sure this is possible.
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As far as your case goes, I have no idea how the moderators did not get suspicious of someone killing people in 1 shot with a basic infantry, as cheats of that sort show up rather readily in the IRC output of a regulator. I would post it on their forums, you'd have a much better chance of getting unbanned that way
