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Re: heli cheats [message #226756 is a reply to message #226749] |
Sun, 15 October 2006 11:08 |
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futura83
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soapdirt wrote on Sun, 15 October 2006 18:14 | Acey ~~ that link was posted by Goztow,he took it from Blackhand studios.
If i generally dont have a clue then black hand studios/goztow havent a clue also.
And thats the kicker ---I/We/They do have a clue.
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he posted that link at first, as we didn't know who you were accusing, and were confused that he was running renguard.
so he posted a link that showed you that rg can be bypassed, and was giving you the info.
you reposting that link dosn't say that dan cheated, it just makes you look like a damn fool for reposting a link which was aimed at you saying that rg could be bypassed.
you don't have a clue. bhs doe, goztow does, but you don't.
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Re: heli cheats [message #226758 is a reply to message #226749] |
Sun, 15 October 2006 11:25 |
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soapdirt wrote on Sun, 15 October 2006 19:14 | Acey ~~ that link was posted by Goztow,he took it from Blackhand studios.
If i generally dont have a clue then black hand studios/goztow havent a clue also.
And thats the kicker ---I/We/They do have a clue.
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You still have no idea.
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Re: heli cheats [message #226825 is a reply to message #226756] |
Sun, 15 October 2006 23:58 |
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the17doctor wrote on Sun, 15 October 2006 20:08 |
soapdirt wrote on Sun, 15 October 2006 18:14 | Acey ~~ that link was posted by Goztow,he took it from Blackhand studios.
If i generally dont have a clue then black hand studios/goztow havent a clue also.
And thats the kicker ---I/We/They do have a clue.
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he posted that link at first, as we didn't know who you were accusing, and were confused that he was running renguard.
so he posted a link that showed you that rg can be bypassed, and was giving you the info.
you reposting that link dosn't say that dan cheated, it just makes you look like a damn fool for reposting a link which was aimed at you saying that rg could be bypassed.
you don't have a clue. bhs doe, goztow does, but you don't.
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Tx for clearing that up for me, Doctor. You're absolutely correct ofcourse.
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Re: heli cheats [message #226834 is a reply to message #226579] |
Mon, 16 October 2006 01:30 |
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Okie:
a,Firstly you show me anywhere in this thread where ive said Dan from CW cheats --Go on just once ??????? thats right you cant.So plz stop telling me i have said it ;)you are making yourselves look stupid by continually saying i have.
I'll give a $1000 to the first person who finds and posts where i have called him a cheat.I can find you quite a few posts where you keep telling me he isnt/doesnt cheat tho ~~~Offer still stands $1000 for the first person to show ME where ive called him a cheat.
b,New to this game makes no diffrence to ANYBODY who wishes to complain/question what somebody has done,Ive played this game since it was just a demo level (Under)~~Infact i was the 73rd person to D/L the demo,Does this somehow make my word more valid than somebody who has never played the demo level ???If you think it does then you deluding yourselves <---all that means i can say things like ""Arrrr i remember when no helis were available,Arrrr i remember when clans use to get 3 artys and 3 fixers and just whore buildings,Arrrrrr the good old days"" Or "Arrr when i was a lad you use to be able to get the stats for amount of bullets fired,Hits to the arms/torso/head were all available.
c,Old player/New player ---Okay then in all my time playing this game(100s of thousand of games)had me own server --only just got rid of renegade in the server box--and put 2142 in renegades place ---in all that time Ive never seen/been held down so convincinly by 1 person in a heli ~~4 shots from a havoc and not 1 touch him ???
LOL you really are your own worst enemies.
What Goztow posted is indeed the truth ---we all no people can and do by pass renguard ---The worst type are the people who no how to play the game and still do it <---what makes it ten times harder if you get 30 people jumping to there defence.
i tell you what ---forget it--you enjoy your games,and keep ignoring people who say certain people aint playing this game on a level playing field.
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Re: heli cheats [message #226837 is a reply to message #226834] |
Mon, 16 October 2006 01:46 |
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soapdirt wrote on Mon, 16 October 2006 10:30 | Okie:
a,Firstly you show me anywhere in this thread where ive said Dan from CW cheats --Go on just once ??????? thats right you cant.So plz stop telling me i have said it ;)you are making yourselves look stupid by continually saying i have.
I'll give a $1000 to the first person who finds and posts where i have called him a cheat.I can find you quite a few posts where you keep telling me he isnt/doesnt cheat tho ~~~Offer still stands $1000 for the first person to show ME where ive called him a cheat.
b,New to this game makes no diffrence to ANYBODY who wishes to complain/question what somebody has done,Ive played this game since it was just a demo level (Under)~~Infact i was the 73rd person to D/L the demo,Does this somehow make my word more valid than somebody who has never played the demo level ???If you think it does then you deluding yourselves <---all that means i can say things like ""Arrrr i remember when no helis were available,Arrrr i remember when clans use to get 3 artys and 3 fixers and just whore buildings,Arrrrrr the good old days"" Or "Arrr when i was a lad you use to be able to get the stats for amount of bullets fired,Hits to the arms/torso/head were all available.
c,Old player/New player ---Okay then in all my time playing this game(100s of thousand of games)had me own server --only just got rid of renegade in the server box--and put 2142 in renegades place ---in all that time Ive never seen/been held down so convincinly by 1 person in a heli ~~4 shots from a havoc and not 1 touch him ???
LOL you really are your own worst enemies.
What Goztow posted is indeed the truth ---we all no people can and do by pass renguard ---The worst type are the people who no how to play the game and still do it <---what makes it ten times harder if you get 30 people jumping to there defence.
i tell you what ---forget it--you enjoy your games,and keep ignoring people who say certain people aint playing this game on a level playing field.
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He has a point. And no, I ain't saying Dan cheats.
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Re: heli cheats [message #226863 is a reply to message #226834] |
Mon, 16 October 2006 04:57 |
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soapdirt wrote on Mon, 16 October 2006 03:30 | Okie:
a,Firstly you show me anywhere in this thread where ive said Dan from CW cheats --Go on just once ??????? thats right you cant.So plz stop telling me i have said it ;)you are making yourselves look stupid by continually saying i have.
I'll give a $1000 to the first person who finds and posts where i have called him a cheat.I can find you quite a few posts where you keep telling me he isnt/doesnt cheat tho ~~~Offer still stands $1000 for the first person to show ME where ive called him a cheat.
You are saying the guy is in the server that you were playing with/against was cheating. That guy, is Dan from CW. As you can obviously see by him explaining he took an orca.
b,New to this game makes no diffrence to ANYBODY who wishes to complain/question what somebody has done,Ive played this game since it was just a demo level (Under)~~Infact i was the 73rd person to D/L the demo,Does this somehow make my word more valid than somebody who has never played the demo level ???If you think it does then you deluding yourselves <---all that means i can say things like ""Arrrr i remember when no helis were available,Arrrr i remember when clans use to get 3 artys and 3 fixers and just whore buildings,Arrrrrr the good old days"" Or "Arrr when i was a lad you use to be able to get the stats for amount of bullets fired,Hits to the arms/torso/head were all available.
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about here. Did someone even mention anything about "new to this game"? Besides the point, if you didn't know that copters rule in public and you've been playing since demo, then I have to make the assumption that unless you're really stupid (we're not ruling this out now) than there is no way in hell you wouldn't have realized that copters rule, if you've played since the demo. So pick and choose. However, on this point I would like to add that someone who's played since the demo *SHOULD* have the knowledge of knowing how much damage a unit does and everything. Unfortunately, there have been a lot of people who claim playing for however long and still doesn't know fundamentals, like that a GDI soldier does more than a Nod one.
c,Old player/New player ---Okay then in all my time playing this game(100s of thousand of games)had me own server --only just got rid of renegade in the server box--and put 2142 in renegades place ---in all that time Ive never seen/been held down so convincinly by 1 person in a heli ~~4 shots from a havoc and not 1 touch him ???
It's no ones fault but your own if you can't hit a helicopter. They're not very small targets, you know. You have to actually *HIT* the copter, in order to do some damage. It's pretty obvious that you haven't played against any of the best pilots - Yes, Dan would be up there, and he's definetely smart enough to use his surroundings to his advantage (ie "looping" under the bridge to kill a bunch of snipers from behind). I say looping because some guy who bought a sakura the entire game yesterday said all that I could do was loop with a copter to kill his sakura even though all he did was buy a sakura the entire game.
As for his stats, Probably 80%+ of the time I play City Flying from the start, I'll have at least 4500 points and over 30 kills. So has mrpirate, and I'm sure I could name other people. That very game I was talking about I had over 6k points and about 30 kills, mrpirate had more kills, but a little less points. The reason why people who buy havocs are so easy to kill for us, is that they are not good players. The fact that they use a ramjet to have to kill copters suggests this. They never actually dare trying to use a copter to kill a copter - no - they wouldn't, instead they spend the entire game buying havocs and losing them, and for each havoc killed is a nice 100 points.
LOL you really are your own worst enemies.
uhh.... OK? You have absolutely no proof what-so-ever that he cheats. I'm sure spoony has enough connections to get the jelly admin to post the logs, and there won't be anything wrong with them. If you think it's "impossible" to kill 3 havocs within 3 seconds - you are wrong.
What Goztow posted is indeed the truth ---we all no people can and do by pass renguard ---The worst type are the people who no how to play the game and still do it <---what makes it ten times harder if you get 30 people jumping to there defence.
AGAIN - WHY, OH WHY would we believe anything you have to say, when you have NO PROOF? The only thing you're telling us is that some n00b players died by some guy who is good at this game, and has been good at this game, and even when RG 1.04 comes into town, will STILL be good at this game. Which, I'm hoping to come out soon, just so people can start accusing me of bypassing renguard again after the first week it's been released. Which, by the way is the neverending cycle. Y'see, people will keep saying so and so bypassed renguard and they'll say "well this RG isn't perfect, wait until the next and we'll see if you're truly this good" Next RG comes out, "wow bypasser, ban again" Like one week after the original RG came out, we were already accused of bypassing it. Now, maybe we're just awesome code breakers or whatever the hell you need to be to bypass, and we just happen to do it faster than some anti-RG retard who spends his life trying to bypass renguard. Or...... Maybe we're just good players, who've played a lot of clangames, where the real incentive to be good is at?
i tell you what ---forget it--you enjoy your games,and keep ignoring people who say certain people aint playing this game on a level playing field.
Don't try and play that card. You have absolutely no proof what-so-ever and you expect us to flock to ban him, when you have absolutely NOTHING? Soapdirt killed 3 havocs really quick! he was untouchable (even though I'm terrible at aiming)! Ban him! ban him! he bypassed RG and then killed my conjoined twin![/sarcasm] If you have any proof of him cheating - which you won't find, because he doesn't - than you look like a complete idiot, especially if you say something like "he had 30 KD and 4500 points" Which is... a common score among people who know how to copter. Hell, I'm sure ack was good enough with a copter to agree. Would you believe it was possible if ack came in here and told you it was? No, that would admit a mistake. I'm not saying to question every person you meet that you think might be cheating, because they might as well be - but what Dan did is nothing short of what anybody can do, if they had the heart to be good at this game.
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It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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Re: heli cheats [message #226881 is a reply to message #226579] |
Mon, 16 October 2006 11:29 |
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RTsa
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Oh ffs. He never said the guy cheated. Let's see now...
Quote: | hi
Nope, not here.
Are there any exploits that bypass renguard when you in a heli.
Nope, not here either.
I ask because --iva just played on jelly server(half renguard)and this guy in a heli was untouchable.
He didn't say the guy cheated here either...
he took armour off aPC wicked fast --he just drop on havocs and kill ya wicked fast. groups of 3 havocs.
Hmm, still didn't say it.
he stop every attack in a lone apache,, apcs and people inside the apcs.
Nope.
He could kill 3 orcas and fly away hardly touched ?? Yet it said he was running renguard?
He's just...Puzzled
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Quote: | yeah
--"I have names"
this Numptys name was SHADEYPIES
That was the guy he talked about earlier, who was a great flier in an Orca.
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map was city -- he had a K/D of 30-1 and about 4500+ points
Umm..nope, didn't say he cheated in the edit either.
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I could go on, but you can see it yourself. He really didn't say the guy cheated...
As for the thread title, he's asking if there're cheats that can be used with helis. (with RG on)
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Re: heli cheats [message #226882 is a reply to message #226579] |
Mon, 16 October 2006 11:46 |
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Quote: | he took armour off aPC wicked fast --he just drop on havocs and kill ya wicked fast. groups of 3 havocs.
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Machinegun can kill apcs pretty fast, and if he was hovering over it, he could just go down as soon as it blew up, and kill everyone inside by squishing them.
I do it all the time
Renx wrote on Mon, 16 October 2006 10:04 |
fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 14 October 2006 20:27 | Plus orcas just straight up OWN apaches and vehicles since they are more agile and have a longer range.
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I disagree. If you can come up ontop of an Orca in an Apache they have little or no chance of surviving. Also, if you know how to use the missiles correctly this shouldn't be a problem anyway.
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Then all the orca has to do is use rockets.. they lock on, and get a range boost, so they can hit the apache. Plus they do quite a bit of damage. You can kill an enemy helicopter faster with rockets, than with the gun, givin all the rockets it..
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Re: heli cheats [message #226891 is a reply to message #226881] |
Mon, 16 October 2006 12:20 |
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RTsa wrote on Mon, 16 October 2006 20:29 | Oh ffs. He never said the guy cheated. Let's see now...
Quote: | hi
Nope, not here.
Are there any exploits that bypass renguard when you in a heli.
Nope, not here either.
I ask because --iva just played on jelly server(half renguard)and this guy in a heli was untouchable.
He didn't say the guy cheated here either...
he took armour off aPC wicked fast --he just drop on havocs and kill ya wicked fast. groups of 3 havocs.
Hmm, still didn't say it.
he stop every attack in a lone apache,, apcs and people inside the apcs.
Nope.
He could kill 3 orcas and fly away hardly touched ?? Yet it said he was running renguard?
He's just...Puzzled
Puzzled
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Quote: | yeah
--"I have names"
this Numptys name was SHADEYPIES
That was the guy he talked about earlier, who was a great flier in an Orca.
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map was city -- he had a K/D of 30-1 and about 4500+ points
Umm..nope, didn't say he cheated in the edit either.
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I could go on, but you can see it yourself. He really didn't say the guy cheated...
As for the thread title, he's asking if there're cheats that can be used with helis. (with RG on)
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Oh come off it...its blindly obvious what hes indicating.
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Re: heli cheats [message #226894 is a reply to message #226579] |
Mon, 16 October 2006 12:31 |
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soapdirt | Are there any exploits that bypass renguard when you in a heli.
I ask because --iva just played on jelly server(half renguard)and this guy in a heli was untouchable.
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first you post asking if it's possible to bypass renguard to make helis invincible.
herr | Do you have any names?
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soapdirt | yeah
this Numptys name was SHADEYPIES
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you are practically accusing 'shadeypies' of cheating, correct?
maidenty | If it was Shadypies that's Dan from GW I think... He's pretty good in a heli, and a good flyer is somewhat prone to cheating accusations because new players often get a shock when they see what a heli's capable of
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we find out the accused is a skilled player that wouldn't use cheats
so then, his question has been answered, we know dan dosn't cheat;
thread over
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Re: heli cheats [message #226896 is a reply to message #226882] |
Mon, 16 October 2006 13:44 |
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razorblade001 wrote on Mon, 16 October 2006 15:46 |
Renx wrote on Mon, 16 October 2006 10:04 |
fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 14 October 2006 20:27 | Plus orcas just straight up OWN apaches and vehicles since they are more agile and have a longer range.
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I disagree. If you can come up ontop of an Orca in an Apache they have little or no chance of surviving. Also, if you know how to use the missiles correctly this shouldn't be a problem anyway.
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Then all the orca has to do is use rockets.. they lock on, and get a range boost, so they can hit the apache. Plus they do quite a bit of damage. You can kill an enemy helicopter faster with rockets, than with the gun, givin all the rockets it..
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Good luck hitting the Apache when it's hovering directly above you. By the time you get in position to actually hit it, you'll be at least at half health.
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Re: heli cheats [message #226899 is a reply to message #226895] |
Mon, 16 October 2006 14:21 |
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RTsa wrote on Mon, 16 October 2006 15:32 | I know he's indicating the guy cheated. However, he didn't say it straight out.
And that's what you needed to find to get the 1000$.
Don't get me wrong here, I don't know DaN. I do know, however, that I've been accused of cheating numerous times because I did something similar in an Apache/Orca. Yet, I do know there're people, who are a lot better at it than me and sometimes it's really scary how good some people are.
What's the right damage an Orca/Apache does? I don't think it's 200 damage for one headshot...100, might be. How about bodyshots?
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I've already said it is 200, if you don't believe me
Quote: | Orcas own infantry. Their main gun does 20 per shot normally, and has a Steel type warhead which does double damage to infantry targets. This means it does 40 per body shot, or 200 per headshot. This means that any infantry unit will die in 2 headshots from an Orca, making them highly lethal. This also means that once the Hand of Nod is gone, you can kill free infantry in 1 headshot making the Orca a preferred unit for kill whoring. The chaingun also does decent damage to vehicular targets, due more to its rate of fire and lack of reloading than its actual power. The Orca's rockets are obviously the preferred weapons of choice for taking on armored targets, but they're better suited to shooting the slower-moving tanks rather than Buggies, APCs, or even enemy Apaches.
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- FUDonline.com
So as you can see, the potential for killing infantry and vehicles is pretty high if it's in the right hands, that's why copters kick-ass. Then again, it is light armour and it means ramjets, that's what seperates the big boys from the little ones. A smart pilot knows how to use the surroundings and tactics like "looping" i mentioned earlier. Also, trying to stay near the top of the map if you know there is an enemy copter pilot that is smart. You see, because one tactic is you can run past an enemy copter and block it's exit, meanwhile you are over them, so that when they run... they're running in the only direction they really can go, towards you - and thus, if you anticipate that they're best bet is going back to their base, you can already beat them there.
Anyways, some people believe that APC/buggy/humvee damage is the same as orcas/apaches, they are not
Orca/Apache
40 - bodyshot
200 - headshot
APC/humvee/buggy
FUDonline says it does 120 per headshot, so i am liable to think the body shot does one fifth of that or...
24 - bodyshot
120 - headshot
However, both shoot just as fast with their chaingun, and both as I believe, fire 43% *slower* than a normal rifle shoots meaning - it's harder to hit units because you have to lead them more. Which is one of the aspects you have to learn. Also you're more prone to hitting an enemies head more (compared to the body) if you're in the air than you are if you're on ground.
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It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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Re: heli cheats [message #226907 is a reply to message #226579] |
Mon, 16 October 2006 15:33 |
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In relevance to fighting off 3 orcas "unscathed"...
This was also on FUDonline
Quote: | To be able to hit targets directly in front of you, it is best to fly backwards so that the gun tracks higher. Most people still don't understand this facet of air combat, but it is usually the difference between flying off unscathed and losing your investment.
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Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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