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Sat, 14 October 2006 11:36   |
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I still stand by my idea. Just randomize the list. Every X minutes the server list refreshes and 10 (Or how every many servers on one page) appear, And so on...
This would give everyone a fair chance in getting traffic, Which is why most of us host. I hear people complaining about there nicknames not bringing in the traffic other then the server itself. Pure bullshit, Then why are these servers using high nicks?
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226621 is a reply to message #226596] |
Sat, 14 October 2006 12:25 |
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| Acey#GW wrote on Sat, 14 October 2006 15:50 |
How about...
You give me all the a000 nicks and i keep them so none of you can use them?
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226635 is a reply to message #226158] |
Sat, 14 October 2006 14:02 |
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Kam, thats why it was suggested its not sorted by nicks. Thats the whole point to the topic.
If they did away with a00000 everyone would go for b0000 names. Thats why randomize it and then there isnt the big struggle for hosting nicks.
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226646 is a reply to message #226158] |
Sat, 14 October 2006 14:34 |
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I'm not being serious, as i couldn't careless really, players have their own preferences on server, why do you guys want to shove your server in their face?
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226724 is a reply to message #226661] |
Sun, 15 October 2006 03:58 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sat, 14 October 2006 23:25 |
| ghost wrote on Sat, 14 October 2006 20:36 |
I still stand by my idea. Just randomize the list. Every X minutes the server list refreshes and 10 (Or how every many servers on one page) appear, And so on...
This would give everyone a fair chance in getting traffic, Which is why most of us host. I hear people complaining about there nicknames not bringing in the traffic other then the server itself. Pure bullshit, Then why are these servers using high nicks?
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So you preffer to have every day a new load of noobs and no regulars? Nofi, but I preffer it that ppl can find my server because it has a sollid place in the listings. If the buddy list would work I might agree with you, but now, no.
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I dissagree, it is true that when the server is higher listed it will be more crowded. But less to no regulars? No way. We try to keep the gamers as satisfied as possible, it's like merchandise: If something is very wanted, we try to offer it. People complain the 40pl. serv is too big, we've added a small aow serv for 20pl. Now we have added a CP-maps serv too. Like Kamuix said, "Make a uniq server and you will get people". Though I do agree the BlackIntel servers are unique.
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226748 is a reply to message #226724] |
Sun, 15 October 2006 09:55 |
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| Herr wrote on Sun, 15 October 2006 12:58 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sat, 14 October 2006 23:25 |
| ghost wrote on Sat, 14 October 2006 20:36 |
I still stand by my idea. Just randomize the list. Every X minutes the server list refreshes and 10 (Or how every many servers on one page) appear, And so on...
This would give everyone a fair chance in getting traffic, Which is why most of us host. I hear people complaining about there nicknames not bringing in the traffic other then the server itself. Pure bullshit, Then why are these servers using high nicks?
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So you preffer to have every day a new load of noobs and no regulars? Nofi, but I preffer it that ppl can find my server because it has a sollid place in the listings. If the buddy list would work I might agree with you, but now, no.
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I dissagree, it is true that when the server is higher listed it will be more crowded. But less to no regulars? No way. We try to keep the gamers as satisfied as possible, it's like merchandise: If something is very wanted, we try to offer it. People complain the 40pl. serv is too big, we've added a small aow serv for 20pl. Now we have added a CP-maps serv too. Like Kamuix said, "Make a uniq server and you will get people". Though I do agree the BlackIntel servers are unique.
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I think you misuderstad me, if the wol list would be randomized, it would be nearly impossible to quickly find your favorite server right? So I think there will be less people tryig to play in the same server everyday, because they would have to look through 117(?) servers and get their favorite out of it. Ad its completely random... Small chance that a lot of ppl would do that.
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226806 is a reply to message #226786] |
Sun, 15 October 2006 17:30 |
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| StealthEye wrote on Sun, 15 October 2006 18:08 |
Yes, that stopped working, and it dead easy to fix (on the XWIS side). It is the default password sent to the channel which XWIS thinks is bad. It should ignore it on non passworded channels. Joining passworded channels through buddies probably works, but that's of much less use... That's why you get the "invalid password" message when trying to join though buddies.
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FYI, yes the join buddy still works for passworded servers only.
It would just be better if you could select servers to be added to a favorites list that would appear at the top above any other servers - similar systems are used for lots of games, but really if your server is getting no traffic it is down to more than just the server nick.
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226809 is a reply to message #226158] |
Sun, 15 October 2006 18:42 |
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At the end of the day it will go one of two ways, there aren't anywhere near enough people who play the game to fill all the servers that are hosted, not even a 5th of them.
So one of the following will ensue:
You get 5 times as many servers that are a tenth full, still no real benefit to anyone.
The servers that are full now, keep their regulars and the rest just look for a busy server. Again, randomizing the list is of no benefit.
Their are too many servers for such a small fan base, this is the major problem, randomizing will not change that, it will either spread players out and there are no full servers, or the popular servers stay popular and it takes people a little longer to find them.
The only ways to fix the problem are, either get more players, like at least 4 times the amount we have now, which is never gonna happen. Or we need far fewer servers, again, this is unlikely.
All randomizing will do is split the player base up even more as far as I can see.
Also, before anyone starts, no I'm not saying this because we have a top login name. I have no problems helping out other servers and communities, you can ask three other communities at the top of the list who lends them a name. I don't ask for money, I never did, they where loaned out indefinatly as a favour to people I know who run good servers. I will never ask for them back unles the favour was abused in any way. I have been offered silly amounts of money in the past for login names, I have said no on each and every single time.
My viewpoint is based on a general view, both as a server owner and a fan of the game in general. Spliting up the player base helps nobody.
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226814 is a reply to message #226809] |
Sun, 15 October 2006 21:16 |
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Jelly for Prime Minister tbh.
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226819 is a reply to message #226158] |
Sun, 15 October 2006 22:39 |
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Also, before anyone starts, no I'm not saying this because we have a top login name. I have no problems helping out other servers and communities, you can ask three other communities at the top of the list who lends them a name. I don't ask for money, I never did, they where loaned out indefinatly as a favour to people I know who run good servers. I will never ask for them back unles the favour was abused in any way. I have been offered silly amounts of money in the past for login names, I have said no on each and every single time.
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Who is to decide who runs a good server?
Ive seen alot of servers that dont have an a0000 name that are good servers. lag free, descent players. but I dont see you offering them an a000 name. Its a prefernece and a bargain chip. Correct me if Im wrong, but didnt you trade a login name to someone for thier private bot once thier private bot is finished.
I also have logs of the person with the bot telling me so, so lying is useless.
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226821 is a reply to message #226819] |
Sun, 15 October 2006 23:00 |
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Do you know what a favour is, jschultz? You do one for someone, they tend to be inclined to do a favour back. Bit different to selling something.
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226835 is a reply to message #226809] |
Mon, 16 October 2006 01:31 |
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FYI, yes the join buddy still works for passworded servers only.
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It would just be better if you could select servers to be added to a favorites list that would appear at the top above any other servers - similar systems are used for lots of games, but really if your server is getting no traffic it is down to more than just the server nick.
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Yes, that way would be slightly better than buddies, but buddies would work too imo.
The main problem of a lower nick is that there will be little players joining when it's empty, and therefore little players will become regulars. The server will fill up if you sit in for a couple of minutes, but you have to be online and playing in your own server to get it running a little. When you have some regulars willing to join and wait for other players then it will fill up easily. If we would move down again we would be getting more players than before. I know this because when I start my test server (BlkIntel5, so not at the top) it fills up much quicker than before we had the a0000 nicks. Probably due to "BlackIntel" in the server name.
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Their are too many servers for such a small fan base, this is the major problem, randomizing will not change that, it will either spread players out and there are no full servers, or the popular servers stay popular and it takes people a little longer to find them.
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Regulars would manually sort by name again, because that's easier to look for their server, which basically makes the randomizing thing useless, lol I agree that randomizing is solely annoying and will not help solving this issue much.
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The only ways to fix the problem are, either get more players, like at least 4 times the amount we have now, which is never gonna happen. Or we need far fewer servers, again, this is unlikely.
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More players would be nice, but highly unlikely indeed Fewer servers is only possible by limiting them on the XWIS side, but that's not a really nice solution as some people will still want to run a 1p test server to test maps or start a 2 player server to play with their friends or something... You could ofcourse limit it only for dedicated servers, but then:
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Who is to decide who runs a good server?
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Currently, it's obviously the owner of the nick deciding that...
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226841 is a reply to message #226158] |
Mon, 16 October 2006 02:13 |
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I have to agree that there are quite simply TOO MANY SERVERS for the number of players we have and if people who run servers that are empty or less than 25% full all day long would just give up the ghost and join forces with an existing server community that has traffic, we'd all be better off and this wouldn't be as much of an issue.
Jelly might be right with the end result of randomizing.
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| Re: a000 nick discussion redux [message #226845 is a reply to message #226158] |
Mon, 16 October 2006 02:23 |
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It's strange that gamespy doesn't have these problems. What's the exact ranking system on there?
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