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Night Regulator [message #225740] Mon, 09 October 2006 12:39 Go to next message
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Please, NO GOD DAMN FLAMEING.

Just post in you're reason's why YOU Dislike it.

or why you prefair another bot OVER Night Regulator.

I see no problem's with it...apart from the !slap and !fart command's...


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Re: Night Regulator [message #225750 is a reply to message #225740] Mon, 09 October 2006 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I prefer brenbot because... well I code it Razz No point coding it and then using something else is there? Smile

I have nothing against NR, it's a good bot in it's own right.


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Re: Night Regulator [message #225757 is a reply to message #225740] Mon, 09 October 2006 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Those commands can be turned off.

I prefer NRs user friendly interface and good staff that always solve problems. I onlce had the whole of NRs source code on my laptop (under Lees supervision of course) to debug a little error.

I'm a NR beta tester so i use NR, and i like it too. Smile
Re: Night Regulator [message #225771 is a reply to message #225740] Mon, 09 October 2006 16:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you ask me...

BRenBot seem's to be used the most..

And I can't understand why people say ( About NR)

"it's a crap bot" I mean, It has all the same command's as every other bot, right?

;s, I just thought I ask.


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Re: Night Regulator [message #225775 is a reply to message #225757] Mon, 09 October 2006 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Merovingian wrote on Mon, 09 October 2006 23:14

good staff that always solve problems.


And BRenBot's staff don't solve problems? You should see how long the changelog for the new version is.....


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Re: Night Regulator [message #225813 is a reply to message #225740] Tue, 10 October 2006 00:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brenbot 1.41 had been lacking support, I agree, but the people with access to the 1.43 beta know this ain't the case anymore.

I prefer brenbot because it works. I once tried NR and neevr got it to work. But that must have been my fault, i guess. All i did was install it and expect it to work thanks to its interface. Wink


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Re: Night Regulator [message #225823 is a reply to message #225813] Tue, 10 October 2006 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What I didnt like was that you could virtually set every small un importnat thingy in NR.. but that might have to do with how I was planning on using the bot.

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Re: Night Regulator [message #225824 is a reply to message #225775] Tue, 10 October 2006 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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danpaul88 wrote on Tue, 10 October 2006 00:18

Merovingian wrote on Mon, 09 October 2006 23:14

good staff that always solve problems.


And BRenBot's staff don't solve problems? You should see how long the changelog for the new version is.....


I've never personally used BRenBot so i wouldn't know. Thanks for the accusation anyway.
Re: Night Regulator [message #225829 is a reply to message #225824] Tue, 10 October 2006 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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another thing that I forgot to mention was the fact that most bots needs renlog with seems a bit of a workaround to me, and doesn't really improve either the speed of the bot nor the speed of the FDS as creating those logs does appear to take quite some CPU.

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Re: Night Regulator [message #225844 is a reply to message #225829] Tue, 10 October 2006 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 10 October 2006 03:58

another thing that I forgot to mention was the fact that most bots needs renlog with seems a bit of a workaround to me, and doesn't really improve either the speed of the bot nor the speed of the FDS as creating those logs does appear to take quite some CPU.


Because it is the first and only log that the FDS outputs to? And was the only log until a few years back as far as I know. SSAOW log is made by.. well... SSAOW. And gamelog by scripts.dll. If you have a clean FDS install renlog is still the only log.

Gamelog has detailed information about everything happening in the game easily readibly by bots.

SSAOW has detailed information too but you can configure what you want to see in SSAOW.ini and you can just one on one put it in IRC and it still looks nice.

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Re: Night Regulator [message #225874 is a reply to message #225740] Tue, 10 October 2006 07:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like BR more because it much simplier. I like that theres a sepcific file for every config, instead of 1 .exe that does it all Big Grin

Re: Night Regulator [message #225968 is a reply to message #225740] Tue, 10 October 2006 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[NR] is great cause you have a guy who keeps on working on it. Nightma is a great guy, he keeps on making betas, he debugs every bug within 1 day of his notice, personally. [NR] is the 3rd bot standing as of right now.. Only cause it has horrible .ini settings. Damn thing has like 9000 lines! He needs to make it more usuable for FTP users.. Otherwise, it would be #1. But BRenBot and CloudyServ have the lead *right now*

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Re: Night Regulator [message #226007 is a reply to message #225740] Tue, 10 October 2006 23:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here are a few of my problems with NR(not saying it is a bad bot), but are that the server to IRC lag gets VERY huge at times.. One time a friend of mine said something in game, and timed it, and it had taken over 3 minutes for it to show up IRC. Actually, this is probably my only real "problem", the other thing is that you cannot check to see what player names matche an IP through a command available to moderators who have access to the !ip command.

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Re: Night Regulator [message #226012 is a reply to message #225740] Tue, 10 October 2006 23:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it depends on what you prefer, i like the SBot because it is extremly fast and unlike NR and BR a n00b could use it. plus, i can modify anything i want or dislike
Re: Night Regulator [message #226039 is a reply to message #225740] Wed, 11 October 2006 05:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol @ this topic

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[NR] is great cause you have a guy who keeps on working on it. Nightma is a great guy, he keeps on making betas, he debugs every bug within 1 day of his notice, personally. [NR] is the 3rd bot standing as of right now.. Only cause it has horrible .ini settings. Damn thing has like 9000 lines! He needs to make it more usuable for FTP users.. Otherwise, it would be #1. But BRenBot and CloudyServ have the lead *right now*


thats exactly why NR 3.5 will have better config files Wink


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Here are a few of my problems with NR(not saying it is a bad bot), but are that the server to IRC lag gets VERY huge at times.. One time a friend of mine said something in game, and timed it, and it had taken over 3 minutes for it to show up IRC. Actually, this is probably my only real "problem", the other thing is that you cannot check to see what player names matche an IP through a command available to moderators who have access to the !ip command.


as i have said before, this is NOT a NR problem, its basically UnrealIRCd limiting the lines of text that is sent per second, to block spam attacks.

To fix this either set the IRC bot as an IRCop, or you can put NR 3.5 onto irc.aohost, which NR sends of special commands to (ive got a modifed IRCd) that reduces the spam completely Smile
Re: Night Regulator [message #226051 is a reply to message #225740] Wed, 11 October 2006 07:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spam? you mean lag? Razz
Re: Night Regulator [message #226070 is a reply to message #225740] Wed, 11 October 2006 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He meant flooding. I think it's a horrible protection though, as it just makes it worse as multiple lines get split up and sent with a delay instead. That's more annoying than a long message imo...

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Re: Night Regulator [message #226088 is a reply to message #225740] Wed, 11 October 2006 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Viva la Resistance!
BRenBot and Cloudy don't have nearly as many features as [NR] and are only now catching up to some of the features that [NR] has had for awhile. Additionally, [NR] has a GUI for those "long INI files" which is not meant for manually editing unless, of course, you prefer to.

I'm really impressed with Nightma12's work on this bot and he puts a lot of effort into it. I'm trying to convince him to let me make a .net version which should make it 3X's as reliable and efficient. *cough*Lee*cough*
Re: Night Regulator [message #226096 is a reply to message #225740] Wed, 11 October 2006 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Viva la Resistance!
night regulators gui also has a built in svrcnfg.ini that lets you easilt change server settings.

it's a great bot; i'd run it if i was running a server Wink


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Re: Night Regulator [message #226131 is a reply to message #225740] Wed, 11 October 2006 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Has it ever occured to you that more features is not nessicaraily better?

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Re: Night Regulator [message #226134 is a reply to message #225740] Wed, 11 October 2006 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[NR] has some n00b command responses, lol..

[BR] is the most professional bot right now.
CloudyServ has the most expandibility because its based on mIRC Code so you can add some of your special codes, meaning you don't have to run another mIRC and BR or NR so you can add your own stuff ot it..

I use Cloudy right now, it has !aban, !ip, and 5 levels of moderation access.

[NR] will soon catch up to Cloudy as Nightma keeps on working on better and better betas..

CloudyServ on the other hand, it has nothing to get better on..


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Re: Night Regulator [message #226140 is a reply to message #226134] Wed, 11 October 2006 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matix wrote on Wed, 11 October 2006 17:12

[NR] has some n00b command responses, lol..

[BR] is the most professional bot right now.
CloudyServ has the most expandibility because its based on mIRC Code so you can add some of your special codes, meaning you don't have to run another mIRC and BR or NR so you can add your own stuff ot it..

I use Cloudy right now, it has !aban, !ip, and 5 levels of moderation access.

[NR] will soon catch up to Cloudy as Nightma keeps on working on better and better betas..

CloudyServ on the other hand, it has nothing to get better on..

that and the fact that mIRC scripts are quite limited. plus mIRC scripting disgusts me for large scale things such as this.
Re: Night Regulator [message #226154 is a reply to message #225740] Wed, 11 October 2006 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, lets see here..

mIRC scripting is quite easy to do..

Of course, when you have a LARGE SCALE build like BR, and have excellent knowledge of comp language, like so C++, then why not do it?

BR has a long time running thing going in renegade. Its only fair its made in a complex language. CloudyServ is maintened by a dude who only knows IRC scripting afaik.. And it hasen't even reached a full version yet (0.982 latest)


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Re: Night Regulator [message #226173 is a reply to message #225740] Wed, 11 October 2006 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brenbot is preffered by alot of server owners because NR has adds for nightmas servers and hosting for one, which I personally think looks retarded on a persons server.

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To fix this either set the IRC bot as an IRCop, or you can put NR 3.5 onto irc.aohost, which NR sends of special commands to (ive got a modifed IRCd) that reduces the spam completely


Your limited to talking the irc owner into giving your bot irc op status or using nightmas irc server. Which is kinda stupid as well.

NR had no way around(that im aware of) of making mods log in to get thier status.

BR is just simply easier to use. Quicker to setup. Easier to maintain. BR has alot of available plugins now.

NR does also have alot of useless commands, especially on servers where the mods are totally ignorant.



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Re: Night Regulator [message #226223 is a reply to message #225740] Thu, 12 October 2006 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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The problem I have with NR is inefficent routines, if you ever get to see some of the coding, you will see this. It has loads of "n00b"like commands and if requires you to change SENDQ because NR can't regulator the amount of text it is sending to the IRC server.

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