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Re: Global warming [message #222829 is a reply to message #218605] Wed, 27 September 2006 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i dont understand why some poeple are trying to stop global warming for these reasons:

1) it will happen anyway
2) people say "Thing of your childeren" but why if it would happen anyway.

3) after some though on this i would say that the ice age would bu over then the north atlantic current starts again(or some subsitute) well untill that part of the earth cools it will not. so the green house gasses will have to be destroyed somehow and untill that happens it will not restableize

this means after this ace age is over people in the future will have a second chance, they will not have carbon-based fuels because it will all be burnt up at the rate we use it.

so after this next ice age it will probably be a very long time to the next one.
Re: Global warming [message #222958 is a reply to message #218605] Wed, 27 September 2006 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some call it Global Warming.

I call it Population Control. Twisted Evil


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Re: Global warming [message #222964 is a reply to message #222829] Wed, 27 September 2006 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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help-linux wrote on Wed, 27 September 2006 16:37

this means after this ace age is over people in the future will have a second chance, they will not have carbon-based fuels because it will all be burnt up at the rate we use it.



That is what a lot of eco-freaks would like you to believe, but the truth is, no one knows for sure how much oil and natural gas is really left in the earth today.

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A primary source for worldwide reserves estimates is the Oil & Gas Journal (OGJ).[1] OGJ estimates that at the beginning of 2004, worldwide reserves were 1.27 trillion barrels of oil and 6,100 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. These estimates are 53 billion barrels of oil and 575 trillion cubic feet of natural gas higher than the prior year, reflecting additional discoveries, improving technology, and changing economics.

At 2003 consumption levels [2], the remaining reserves represent 44.6 years of oil and 66.2 years of natural gas. Does this mean that the world will be out of fossil fuels in 50 years or so? That theory has been around since the 1970s. In fact, the figures for years of remaining reserves have remained relative constant over the past few decades as the industry has replaced consumption with newly discovered oil and gas deposits and has developed technologies to increase the amount of oil and gas that can be recovered from existing reservoirs.


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But EIA estimates that in 2025, countries around the globe will still have more than 900 billion barrels of oil remaining to be discovered. EIA estimates total world oil resources at more than 2.9 trillion barrels of oil.



http://www.spe.org/spe/jsp/basic/0,,1104_1008218_1109511,00. html

And, these are what they call currently "recoverable" deposits. They also admit that there are trillions of barrels of known deposits which aren't even being considered because they aren't economically logical to persue. If people are willing to pay for it, they'll find a way to refine it.

By my guesstimates, there will be no "oh shit we're out of oil, what now?" scenarios for at least 100 years. And I'm pretty sure they'll find the next-best-thing by then.
Re: Global warming [message #223027 is a reply to message #222964] Thu, 28 September 2006 00:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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msgtpain wrote on Thu, 28 September 2006 04:53

help-linux wrote on Wed, 27 September 2006 16:37

this means after this ace age is over people in the future will have a second chance, they will not have carbon-based fuels because it will all be burnt up at the rate we use it.



That is what a lot of eco-freaks would like you to believe, but the truth is, no one knows for sure how much oil and natural gas is really left in the earth today.

Quote:

A primary source for worldwide reserves estimates is the Oil & Gas Journal (OGJ).[1] OGJ estimates that at the beginning of 2004, worldwide reserves were 1.27 trillion barrels of oil and 6,100 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. These estimates are 53 billion barrels of oil and 575 trillion cubic feet of natural gas higher than the prior year, reflecting additional discoveries, improving technology, and changing economics.

At 2003 consumption levels [2], the remaining reserves represent 44.6 years of oil and 66.2 years of natural gas. Does this mean that the world will be out of fossil fuels in 50 years or so? That theory has been around since the 1970s. In fact, the figures for years of remaining reserves have remained relative constant over the past few decades as the industry has replaced consumption with newly discovered oil and gas deposits and has developed technologies to increase the amount of oil and gas that can be recovered from existing reservoirs.


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But EIA estimates that in 2025, countries around the globe will still have more than 900 billion barrels of oil remaining to be discovered. EIA estimates total world oil resources at more than 2.9 trillion barrels of oil.



http://www.spe.org/spe/jsp/basic/0,,1104_1008218_1109511,00. html

And, these are what they call currently "recoverable" deposits. They also admit that there are trillions of barrels of known deposits which aren't even being considered because they aren't economically logical to persue. If people are willing to pay for it, they'll find a way to refine it.

By my guesstimates, there will be no "oh shit we're out of oil, what now?" scenarios for at least 100 years. And I'm pretty sure they'll find the next-best-thing by then.


when i ment the "fututre" i ment in about 100 years time.
Re: Global warming [message #223469 is a reply to message #218605] Fri, 29 September 2006 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Interesting topic was posted in the last couple of days over at www.space.com regarding the ozone layer over the poles.

Should be a good read, for those who are interested.

http://www.livescience.com/environment/060928_ozone_upate.ht ml
Re: Global warming [message #223495 is a reply to message #218605] Fri, 29 September 2006 09:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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read with interest
Re: Global warming [message #225338 is a reply to message #218605] Sat, 07 October 2006 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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controlling our population maybe more important than global warming . Global warming is going to happen and you can not stop it now. We wont really see the real effects until about 50-100 years from now.
Re: Global warming [message #225339 is a reply to message #218605] Sat, 07 October 2006 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The current estimate is 20-30 years.



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Re: Global warming [message #225396 is a reply to message #218605] Sat, 07 October 2006 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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can't wait lol, but do you think there will be drama? or do you think it will just get cold.
Re: Global warming [message #225426 is a reply to message #218605] Sat, 07 October 2006 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It doesn't matter since in the future our sun will become a red giant and completely incinerate the earth...theres "global" warming for ya Smile
Re: Global warming [message #225996 is a reply to message #225426] Tue, 10 October 2006 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Too further reinforce what you just said, there will be a time where life as we know it will not exist, since the universe keeps expanding, the gases that makes stars drift farther and farther apart, so think about it. Grandkids to the power of 10000 generations, will probably be not around, since life will eventually cease to exist.

At least, thats what i heard on discovery channel.
One of those wierd space shows *sigh*


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Re: Global warming [message #226008 is a reply to message #218605] Tue, 10 October 2006 23:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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im not sure they said "gases makes stars drift Listen

the universe is expanding but the milkyway is hurtling twards another galaxy. and even when they colide, if we suvive that long somehow. the 2 "mixes galaxes would be hurling tward a massive super cluster. so if nothing did die out like the sun kept working, earthes resrources just did we would definetly suvive it, just like the last one.


this was on a program called doomsday. xD
Re: Global warming [message #226226 is a reply to message #218605] Thu, 12 October 2006 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LOL I NO WY WUD U WUNT TO STOP ERTH FRUM DESTRUKSHUN LETS ALL IGNOR IT N GET DRUNK
Re: Global warming [message #226285 is a reply to message #218605] Thu, 12 October 2006 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Global warming [message #226286 is a reply to message #226226] Thu, 12 October 2006 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Broadus wrote on Thu, 12 October 2006 03:43

LOL I NO WY WUD U WUNT TO STOP ERTH FRUM DESTRUKSHUN LETS ALL IGNOR IT N GET DRUNK


Edit, I think he meant this:

Now why would you want to stop the Earth from Destruction? Lets all ignore it and get drunk.

Spell checks your friend, remember that.

Btw, with that kinda logic, i can bet youll never sirmound to anything in life.


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Re: Global warming [message #226307 is a reply to message #226286] Thu, 12 October 2006 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheekay77 wrote on Thu, 12 October 2006 10:00

Edit, I think he meant this:

Now why would you want to stop the Earth from Destruction? Lets all ignore it and get drunk.

Spell checks your friend, remember that.

Btw, with that kinda logic, i can bet youll never sirmound to anything in life.

Did you really think any of that through, or did your fingers just start spouting crap on your keyboard? Obviously, global warming is real, and I realize it. My sarcastic sentence doesn't make that any different.
"destruction"
"Let's"
I don't know how I could fix all of the wrong in "Spell checks your friend, remember that" sentence. I don't spell checkS my friend(s).
"By the way"
"kinda'" or "kind of"
"I"
"you'll"
"surmount"

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Re: Global warming [message #226407 is a reply to message #226307] Thu, 12 October 2006 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Broadus wrote on Thu, 12 October 2006 15:08

cheekay77 wrote on Thu, 12 October 2006 10:00

Edit, I think he meant this:

Now why would you want to stop the Earth from Destruction? Lets all ignore it and get drunk.

Spell checks your friend, remember that.

Btw, with that kinda logic, i can bet youll never sirmound to anything in life.

Did you really think any of that through, or did your fingers just start spouting crap on your keyboard? Obviously, global warming is real, and I realize it. My sarcastic sentence doesn't make that any different.
"destruction"
"Let's"
I don't know how I could fix all of the wrong in "Spell checks your friend, remember that" sentence. I don't spell checkS my friend(s).


"By the way"
"kinda'" or "kind of"
"I"
"you'll"
"surmount"

Lol I had a feeling i spelt surmount wrong Very Happy Meh, doesnt surprise me that you would come back with a sarcastic remark. All i was stating that there was no need for a "sarcastic post"

Even when you think that theres time to look like an idiot, even if you not, there usually isn't

Once again, not calling you an idiot. Just dont post stupid/sarcastic posts. Speak what you mean, if you meant sarcasm, type it normally, then put sarcasm. Its not hard.


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Re: Global warming [message #226408 is a reply to message #218605] Thu, 12 October 2006 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Type sarcasm normally, then put sarcasm? What does that even mean?
"'Sarcastic remark!' That was sarcasm, folks!"
Re: Global warming [message #226412 is a reply to message #226408] Thu, 12 October 2006 22:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Broadus wrote on Fri, 13 October 2006 01:01

Type sarcasm normally, then put sarcasm? What does that even mean?
"'Sarcastic remark!' That was sarcasm, folks!"



Your not getting what im saying.
Im saying, if you typed that jibberish sarcasm, you shoulda put lol then what you had USEful to put into the topic (not saying my last 4 or 5 posts are useful Smile)


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Re: Global warming [message #226413 is a reply to message #218605] Thu, 12 October 2006 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why would I want to add to my sarcasm? ESPECIALLY with something serious? Or "lol". What would be the point in that? Is someone going to read it and be like, "WELL, I GUESS THE EARTH IS GETTING UNNATURALLY HOTTER! MAYBE I SHOULD DO SOMETHING!" No, more like they'd go, "Meh, I don't care. In fact, I'll type something annoying purely for the enjoyment of being against someone."
Nobody would pay attention to or think about my two cents, so what would be the point? I mean, what does talking about political issues in a Renegade forum do for anything?
Re: Global warming [message #226417 is a reply to message #226413] Thu, 12 October 2006 23:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Broadus wrote on Fri, 13 October 2006 02:15

Why would I want to add to my sarcasm? ESPECIALLY with something serious? Or "lol". What would be the point in that? Is someone going to read it and be like, "WELL, I GUESS THE EARTH IS GETTING UNNATURALLY HOTTER! MAYBE I SHOULD DO SOMETHING!" No, more like they'd go, "Meh, I don't care. In fact, I'll type something annoying purely for the enjoyment of being against someone."
Nobody would pay attention to or think about my two cents, so what would be the point? I mean, what does talking about political issues in a Renegade forum do for anything?


1. Your a dumbass
2. If no one thinks about your two cents, maybe start putting in something worth thinking about. If people dont pay attention, get their attention.
3. And talking about political issues in the world expand our minds and give us new opinions on how the worlds done. Think of all the websites that people have posted about bush lying, the war on iraq useless,same with afghan. It goes to show, that without half of these people and their searching, that US would be made out to look like gods to the eyes of other countries.
Your saying youd rather not know NK has nukes then one day, your house is blown to ashes? Not saying it would happen, just saying stop being a retard and post something that people can relate to, then youll find that youll get more response, whether or not your right.
You can always fight your way out of a battle.

END OF DISCUSSION. I dont want to talk to you any longer. So dont even bother posting to this because i doubt youll have anything useful to say.


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Re: Global warming [message #226429 is a reply to message #218605] Fri, 13 October 2006 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Boohoo! It's about time you surrendered, seeing as how the argument you started was pointless to begin with.

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Re: Global warming [message #226430 is a reply to message #226429] Fri, 13 October 2006 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Broadus wrote on Fri, 13 October 2006 03:32

Boohoo! It's about time you surrendered, seeing as how the argument you started was pointless to begin with.


Funny, as to how feeble your mind that you have to feel that you "won" arguements to make yourself feel better.

Its alright. Thats like 95% of the people here. Not naming names.

Anywhos, fine, w/e you "win" this "arguement"

Feel any better?


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Re: Global warming [message #226437 is a reply to message #218605] Fri, 13 October 2006 00:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Whoa, what's this? I believe you said:
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END OF DISCUSSION. I dont want to talk to you any longer. So dont even bother posting to this because i doubt youll have anything useful to say.

Going back on your word? Talking to me, now? So dishonest of you. Obviously, I must've had something useful to say, since you came running back to sling some pitiful insults at me because you absolutely must get the last word in. If it so pleases you, I'll let you have the last word. But, yeah. I won. You know how I know? Because here you are, even after saying you wouldn't respond anymore. I'm just that irresistible!

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Broadus wrote on Fri, 13 October 2006 03:50

Whoa, what's this? I believe you said:
Quote:

END OF DISCUSSION. I dont want to talk to you any longer. So dont even bother posting to this because i doubt youll have anything useful to say.

Going back on your word? Talking to me, now? So dishonest of you. Obviously, I must've had something useful to say, since you came running back to sling some pitiful insults at me because you absolutely must get the last word in. If it so pleases you, I'll let you have the last word. But, yeah. I won. You know how I know? Because here you are, even after saying you wouldn't respond anymore. I'm just that irresistible!


OT: I like ham and cheese bagels Sarcasm


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