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Re: Global warming [message #219577 is a reply to message #218708] |
Fri, 15 September 2006 00:15   |
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Hydra
Messages: 827 Registered: September 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Scythar wrote on Mon, 11 September 2006 11:08 | I don't think anyone here is claiming that. The original poster asked whether we think the climate is warming, which it is. We're not arguing who's causing it as far as I know.
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DAMMIT SCYTHAR, WHY WON'T YOU LET ME GET INTO A RED-FACED RANT AND SHOUT WORDS AT PEOPLE OVER THE INTERNET??? NOW THERE'S NO ONE FOR ME TO GET MAD AT!!!
I WANNA CHANGE THE TOPIC TO SOMETHING I CAN GET MAD ABOUT!!!
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Re: Global warming [message #219670 is a reply to message #218605] |
Fri, 15 September 2006 10:26   |
Berkut
Messages: 508 Registered: July 2005 Location: N/A
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Global warming? No. Global climate shifts? It's happened. Apparently, at one point in time, the Earth had a slightly more torrid climate, but some cataclysmic event (seismic upheaval causing massive flooding, meteor, what have you...), changed the climate a bit. Anywho, I saved my notes from my topography course. A change in the Earth's axial tilt in one direction by only a few degrees could cause an Ice Age. At the same time, a tilt in the other direction could bake the surface of the Earth into oblivion.
So to be safe, don't just slam down into the back of your couch. Slide into it slowly and you could prevent the Apocalypse!
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Re: Global warming [message #222545 is a reply to message #222303] |
Tue, 26 September 2006 15:02   |
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warranto
Messages: 2584 Registered: February 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada
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Steppo wrote on Mon, 25 September 2006 20:31 | Just so you guys know, there's more CO2 coming out of limestone and shale beneath your feet than ANYTHING that we could produce.
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I think the idea is that limestone, shale, cows, etc. + (nothing else) = one "natural release" number, but
limestone, shale, cows, etc. + (everything else) = much greater "excessive release" number, which is related to everyone's concerns.
Yes, others things do it naturally, but that's just it... it's done naturally, and is a "normal" occurance. Adding to that is what people are concerned about.
Example:
Simply to use random numbers for simplicity's sake, lets say the Earth can handle 100 units of CO2 before a "Global Warming" occurs.
Let's combine all the natural sources of CO2, and make it equal to 1 unit released per year. That means it will take 100 years for Global Warming to occur.
Let's now combine all the artifical sources of CO2 and make it equal to 1 unit. By themselves, it also means it will take 100 years for Global Warming to occur.
Not that big of a deal, right? One thing that's missing though:
Because both are occuring simultaneously, we need to add them together. 1 unit of natural + 1 unit of artifical = 2 units released every year. It now only takes 50 years instead of 100 for Global Warming to occur.
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Re: Global warming [message #222573 is a reply to message #222545] |
Tue, 26 September 2006 16:51   |
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jnz
Messages: 3396 Registered: July 2006 Location: 30th century
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warranto wrote on Tue, 26 September 2006 23:02 |
Steppo wrote on Mon, 25 September 2006 20:31 | Just so you guys know, there's more CO2 coming out of limestone and shale beneath your feet than ANYTHING that we could produce.
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I think the idea is that limestone, shale, cows, etc. + (nothing else) = one "natural release" number, but
limestone, shale, cows, etc. + (everything else) = much greater "excessive release" number, which is related to everyone's concerns.
Yes, others things do it naturally, but that's just it... it's done naturally, and is a "normal" occurance. Adding to that is what people are concerned about.
Example:
Simply to use random numbers for simplicity's sake, lets say the Earth can handle 100 units of CO2 before a "Global Warming" occurs.
Let's combine all the natural sources of CO2, and make it equal to 1 unit released per year. That means it will take 100 years for Global Warming to occur.
Let's now combine all the artifical sources of CO2 and make it equal to 1 unit. By themselves, it also means it will take 100 years for Global Warming to occur.
Not that big of a deal, right? One thing that's missing though:
Because both are occuring simultaneously, we need to add them together. 1 unit of natural + 1 unit of artifical = 2 units released every year. It now only takes 50 years instead of 100 for Global Warming to occur.
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not only that:
100U = earth
-1U = trees plants
1.5U = nateral release
1U = our realeas
but also if a global warming does accur and we go into an ice-age this is reset. all we are doing is speeding up how long it will take.
some scientists think that we are in a ice age now because it was alot warmer 1000000's of years ago
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