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Sorry, I forgot to add one thing. Spoony is not permanently banned from here. The message that FUDForum supplies to a banned person implies that it's permanent but I think that's just a holdover from before he added the time-limiting feature.
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| Re: Removed threads [message #220175 is a reply to message #219956] |
Sun, 17 September 2006 21:25 |
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considering I ran n00bstations, who the hell is Olddust? Im assuming iccy.
The attacks that happend towards n00bstations, were never directly "tied" to crimson. Allthough we did know her community members, or some of themwere tied to it, from logs that were given to us from members of the n00bstories community.
Once renguard was taken down by the person that did it, and we spoke with crimson for her to put the word out to leave n00bstations alone, the attacks stopped. But this is all in the past, so why is it being drug up now?
The attacks against n00bstations were supposedly done because n00bstations was to close of a name to n00bstories, and certain people felt n00bstations was taking n00bstories traffic.
What Spoony has to do with this is beyond me, to my knowledge he wasnt involved in it, unless iccy brought him into it, I dont recall speaking with him, but this was quite some time ago, so my memory of who all was involved may be a little foggy.
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| Re: Removed threads [message #220212 is a reply to message #220161] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 04:07 |
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| Crimson wrote on Sun, 17 September 2006 21:14 |
I've already explained all I'm going to explain. If it's not enough for you, then that's just too bad for you. I'm done with it.
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Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Removed threads [message #220216 is a reply to message #219956] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 04:47 |
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Well, I can't just let people lie about me, can I? The public ladder would have been up this week but Spoony wasted all my time on this bullshit and cleaning up vandalism from several websites, so I didn't get to finish the database components. 'Tis a shame.
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| Re: Removed threads [message #220219 is a reply to message #220216] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 05:27 |
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| Crimson wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 06:47 |
Well, I can't just let people lie about me, can I? The public ladder would have been up this week but Spoony wasted all my time on this bullshit and cleaning up vandalism from several websites, so I didn't get to finish the database components. 'Tis a shame.
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Damn you Spoony, you screwed the ladder!!!
I hate those internet vandals.
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| Re: Removed threads [message #220221 is a reply to message #219956] |
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Yeah well the last time someone posted on behalf of spoony, you deleted it. So what is this going to be? He posts about it on clanwars.cc and then you respond it here and then someone from here tells him what you said so that he can respond again on cw.cc? Why don't you go over there to argue your point? I mean the purpose of banning him was to stop arguing, yet you're still talking to spoony (indirectly), so what was the point in banning him :\
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So, thanks for admitting to the attacks and totally negating your argument about my friendship with Kholdstare. Unlike you, I don't put my friend into a position of power on my servers or anything else I run because I know how his temper can run. And whether I was friends with him or not would NOT change how he behaves, so I fail to see how it's relevant.
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"Unlike you" ? By this I assume you mean spoony. How did Spoony put olddust into power? wasn't Olddust the one hosting, and the one who put himself into power? Where does this fit in with him?
about the ddos war, I don't see how it proves anything connecting to spoony or him doing anything wrong, i mean, you never really denied he wanted a peaceful resolution to start with. Why wasn't that route taken? Because you thought spoony hacked the forums?
We're getting off tangent anyways, the purpose of the argument is for a clan ladder. The real question is what is so wrong with clanwars? Spoony would love to hear criticisms that tie into the ladder. If there's something that you think needs fixing, what is it? Is it all because of the fact that there are idiots on the forum? If so, If there are idiots in this new clan ladder, are you going to ban them? Just for being idiotic? That seems unfair, because for one, who is anyone to really judge that? How far does idiotic go to be something to be banned for? Why is it that spoony should ban the idiots, meanwhile there are plenty of people here who joyously take pleasure in insulting ack and others on a personal level. If you think that it's flaming that is the problem, then Ack should be banned (Not that I want him to be banned, I don't really give a shit if someone says so and so maps/mods are bad or calls me names, just making a point here) What *SPECIFICALLY* is wrong with clanwars.cc that needs replacing? Isn't that the core of what should be argued about?
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Removed threads [message #220224 is a reply to message #219956] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 06:39 |
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A coverup, LOL. I have responded over and over and over and over and over to these accusations, and no one's mind has been changed one way or another. You guys won't be satisfied until I say Spoony was 100% right, and I can't do that because he's not.
I agree that the discussion should have always been about the merits of the CW ladder and the integrity of its leadership, founders, owners. But some people have to resort to ad hominem and attack the person instead of the argument. I sincerely hope that the CW ladder is run with a lot more integrity than it did when I into clanning. I really do. But given the way that community has treated me in the past, I am not going out of my way to find out if they've changed and support or promote what they're doing. If they (the CW founders, not Spoony) are not going out of their way to listen to me and stop childishly insulting me, then I'm not going out of my way to help them in any way. I'm sorry if you think that's wrong, but that's how I feel about it.
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| Re: Removed threads [message #220226 is a reply to message #219956] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 06:56 |
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This argument is NEVER going to go anywhere.
Let the past cover itself with dust (You cannot change anything that HAS happened) and look forwards to the present and the future.
Let all your wishes be granted except one, so you will still have something to strieve for.
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| Re: Removed threads [message #220261 is a reply to message #220233] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 10:05 |
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Just drop this grudge against cw.cc and i think everything will die down for at least the foreseable future.
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| Re: Removed threads [message #220263 is a reply to message #220224] |
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| Crimson wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 09:39 |
A coverup, LOL. I have responded over and over and over and over and over to these accusations, and no one's mind has been changed one way or another. You guys won't be satisfied until I say Spoony was 100% right, and I can't do that because he's not.
I agree that the discussion should have always been about the merits of the CW ladder and the integrity of its leadership, founders, owners. But some people have to resort to ad hominem and attack the person instead of the argument. I sincerely hope that the CW ladder is run with a lot more integrity than it did when I into clanning. I really do. But given the way that community has treated me in the past, I am not going out of my way to find out if they've changed and support or promote what they're doing. If they (the CW founders, not Spoony) are not going out of their way to listen to me and stop childishly insulting me, then I'm not going out of my way to help them in any way. I'm sorry if you think that's wrong, but that's how I feel about it.
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It seems to me that the whole thing is over your uncanny ability to hold a gruge. A gruge against players who no longer play the game nor participate in anything that has to do with the game. Playing in both the new league and the old league i can tell you that the league is run a hell of alot better today then it was years ago. And if I remember correctly that all started because someone killed someones hand of nod before everyone had loaded into the game. Honestly, who the fuck cares I wish this stupid feud would just end. Almost everyone I ever played a competitive game with i disliked at one point or another including spoony and a close personal friend of mine. But everyone always apologizes in the end and lets bye gones be bye gones. Maybe you should try the same thing. I know people at CW will always flame you just like i will probably always be flamed by people here but honestly who cares.
Another issue is that if you were to start up clan ladder all it would do is split the communitys more. Some would play on CW and others would play on your ladder and there arent enough people who play clan matchs to split in half.
There are probably alot of spelling and grammer errors in this post so i apologize, i didnt edit it because honestly who cares.
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| Re: Removed threads [message #220271 is a reply to message #220264] |
Mon, 18 September 2006 11:28 |
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| j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 19:08 |
| Acey#GW wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 13:05 |
Just drop this grudge against cw.cc and i think everything will die down for at least the foreseable future.
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...idiot. The reason why I say that should be so blatantly obvious that I don't need to explain it further.
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Oh I see, just because I show support for cw.cc makes me an idiot. You people say that the cw.cc forums are full of retards, the people what post here regulary aren't very receptive here either, just because i have a different opinion to you doesn't warrant an insult.
But hey, keep on with your stereotypical views. 
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Mon, 18 September 2006 11:38 |
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| Acey#GW wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 14:28 |
| j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 19:08 |
| Acey#GW wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 13:05 |
Just drop this grudge against cw.cc and i think everything will die down for at least the foreseable future.
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...idiot. The reason why I say that should be so blatantly obvious that I don't need to explain it further.
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Oh I see, just because I show support for cw.cc makes me an idiot. You people say that the cw.cc forums are full of retards, the people what post here regulary aren't very receptive here either, just because i have a different opinion to you doesn't warrant an insult.
But hey, keep on with your stereotypical views.
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You truly are an idiot, aren't you? That wasn't my implication at all. I guess it wasn't as obvious as I thought.
She can dislike cw.cs as much as she likes. It's just all of you idiots dragging it out that is going to keep this shit going, not her holding a grudge. YOU get over the fact that she doesn't like it. She dislikes cw. OH NOES.
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| IceSword7 wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 12:08 |
| Crimson wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 09:39 |
A coverup, LOL. I have responded over and over and over and over and over to these accusations, and no one's mind has been changed one way or another. You guys won't be satisfied until I say Spoony was 100% right, and I can't do that because he's not.
I agree that the discussion should have always been about the merits of the CW ladder and the integrity of its leadership, founders, owners. But some people have to resort to ad hominem and attack the person instead of the argument. I sincerely hope that the CW ladder is run with a lot more integrity than it did when I into clanning. I really do. But given the way that community has treated me in the past, I am not going out of my way to find out if they've changed and support or promote what they're doing. If they (the CW founders, not Spoony) are not going out of their way to listen to me and stop childishly insulting me, then I'm not going out of my way to help them in any way. I'm sorry if you think that's wrong, but that's how I feel about it.
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It seems to me that the whole thing is over your uncanny ability to hold a gruge. A gruge against players who no longer play the game nor participate in anything that has to do with the game. Playing in both the new league and the old league i can tell you that the league is run a hell of alot better today then it was years ago. And if I remember correctly that all started because someone killed someones hand of nod before everyone had loaded into the game. Honestly, who the fuck cares I wish this stupid feud would just end. Almost everyone I ever played a competitive game with i disliked at one point or another including spoony and a close personal friend of mine. But everyone always apologizes in the end and lets bye gones be bye gones. Maybe you should try the same thing. I know people at CW will always flame you just like i will probably always be flamed by people here but honestly who cares.
Another issue is that if you were to start up clan ladder all it would do is split the communitys more. Some would play on CW and others would play on your ladder and there arent enough people who play clan matchs to split in half.
There are probably alot of spelling and grammer errors in this post so i apologize, i didnt edit it because honestly who cares.
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That's exactly how I feel about it...I see no reason why a league run by Spoony shouldn't be supported by Crimson...all her accusations about him deleting the forums and being involved in a DDoSwar between n00bstories and n00bstation have turned out to be false, so what has he possibly done wrong to warrant such a resentment? Being involved with people that Crimson holds a grudge with because of something that has happened over 4 years ago? That would seen quite childish to me.
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| j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 14:38 |
| Acey#GW wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 14:28 |
| j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 19:08 |
| Acey#GW wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 13:05 |
Just drop this grudge against cw.cc and i think everything will die down for at least the foreseable future.
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...idiot. The reason why I say that should be so blatantly obvious that I don't need to explain it further.
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Oh I see, just because I show support for cw.cc makes me an idiot. You people say that the cw.cc forums are full of retards, the people what post here regulary aren't very receptive here either, just because i have a different opinion to you doesn't warrant an insult.
But hey, keep on with your stereotypical views.
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You truly are an idiot, aren't you? That wasn't my implication at all. I guess it wasn't as obvious as I thought.
She can dislike cw.cs as much as she likes. It's just all of you idiots dragging it out that is going to keep this shit going, not her holding a grudge. YOU get over the fact that she doesn't like it. She dislikes cw. OH NOES.
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So you think it's a good thing that the person overseeing the Renegade forums is holding a childish grudge?
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| IceSword7 wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 13:08 |
Another issue is that if you were to start up clan ladder all it would do is split the communitys more. Some would play on CW and others would play on your ladder and there arent enough people who play clan matchs to split in half.
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I'd rather have a ladder that I'd enjoy being a part of instead of having to be a part of a ladder where I don't like the administration because it's the only one available.
Edit: JohnDoe, sure. A person is allowed to feel as they should. If she disagrees with a community, she has every right to voice it. She's not telling people to agree.
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| j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 14:48 |
| IceSword7 wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 13:08 |
Another issue is that if you were to start up clan ladder all it would do is split the communitys more. Some would play on CW and others would play on your ladder and there arent enough people who play clan matchs to split in half.
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I'd rather have a ladder that I'd enjoy being a part of instead of having to be a part of a ladder where I don't like the administration because it's the only one available.
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One thing about the administration at cw is that you don't even know who they are. Spoony is an admin, but the main Renegade admins are unknown so that they dont get caught up in petty arguments.. So how can you really dislike someone when you don't even know who they are? And even if you dislike the administration, you basically won't ever have to talk to them except in AR or AM threads. Are you really saying that you dislike the administration or do you mean that you dislike how it is being run?
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| Ralphzehunter wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 19:53 |
| j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 14:48 |
| IceSword7 wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 13:08 |
Another issue is that if you were to start up clan ladder all it would do is split the communitys more. Some would play on CW and others would play on your ladder and there arent enough people who play clan matchs to split in half.
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I'd rather have a ladder that I'd enjoy being a part of instead of having to be a part of a ladder where I don't like the administration because it's the only one available.
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Are you really saying that you dislike the administration or do you mean that you dislike how it is being run?
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the administration is the same as how it is run; he wasnt commenting on the administrators just the administration
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| Re: Removed threads [message #220282 is a reply to message #219956] |
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So you think it's a good thing that the person overseeing the Renegade forums is holding a childish grudge?
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You cant call the grudge that crimson has childish, if you dont look at the crap spoony is doing as childish.
The whole thing is retarded, and no im not calling the people retarded. The whole situation, dragging up shit from years ago to try and drag peoples name thrgouh the mud. Hopefully Crimson does the right thing, locks this topic, and stops people from stirring anymore shit and her and spoony can work it out via email, without any outside kids making trouble.
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| j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 13:59 |
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Are you really saying that you dislike the administration or do you mean that you dislike how it is being run?
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Of course. The same idea as people not liking the Bush administration. People don't like the way it's being run.
(Of course, people say they hate Bush personally and such, but they don't actually know them...)
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Then tell me, what don't you like about the way it's run?
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| JohnDoe wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 15:17 |
| j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 18 September 2006 13:59 |
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Are you really saying that you dislike the administration or do you mean that you dislike how it is being run?
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Of course. The same idea as people not liking the Bush administration. People don't like the way it's being run.
(Of course, people say they hate Bush personally and such, but they don't actually know them...)
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Then tell me, what don't you like about the way it's run?
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How the fuck would I know? The only person from ClanWars that I've had any interaction with is Spoony, and I've never checked out their ladder system or community.
Note: I never once said that I didn't like cw. I never said once that I had an issue with any administrators or how the adminstration ran cw. I simply stated that more than one option should be available, and that not liking the administration is one example as to why there should be more than one.
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I agree. I have tried quite a few times to bring the thread back to the future (haha) but it doesn't always work. I *think* we might be getting close to a resolution, though.
