Renegade Public Forums
C&C: Renegade --> Dying since 2003™, resurrected in 2024!
Home » General Discussions » Heated Discussions and Debates » Removed threads
Removed threads [message #219956] Sat, 16 September 2006 19:29 Go to next message
Crimson is currently offline  Crimson
Messages: 7429
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Karma: 0
General (5 Stars)
ADMINISTRATOR
Regarding the "admin access" to the old Westwood forums, I will make this clear. Aircraftkiller was mistaken. I can admit that in a way, I had higher access than most people. I'm sure none of you remember back then, but certain people who I have made peace with were attacking the hell out of my sniper server and I was working with one of the guys at Westwood (Steve Tall) to get the exploit patched. (DOM_TreyD was helping at the time too, as a fellow victim) My work with them on this issue not only earned me a Renegade mousepad and a few t-shirts (which was nice, but I was glad to have my server fixed more), but I also ended up talking to a lot with other employees at Westwood, including Delphi (who got me into the much-coveted Generals beta) and Tim Hempel who worked late and I could call up to get him to k-line these people when they were messing with my server. What I ALSO did was mass email everyone at Westwood that I had contact with when people were spamming the old Renegade Forums. I don't really know which of them was the one who would clean things up, but generally within a couple hours of me contacting them, the spammer would go away (until he changed IPs I guess). So, that's how I had access to admin.

In a related matter, it may have also seemed like we were admins because we used an exploit on that piece of shit UBB to read the raw data of posts, which included their IPs. Later on, we obtained an exploit that allowed you to create posts as someone else. Blazer still has a document with the details, and I'm sure the exploit has been patched, but it involved using the [ code] tag and the doulbe pipe (||) delimiter to append another post onto yours, and you could put any user id in there and the post would look like it came from them. You could even put any source IP in there. I'm quite sure that the person who told us about it told other people about it, because I know we did it once, made a post and deleted it, to see if it worked. You could tell when a post was fake because the one before it always had a [ code] tag in it.

We told Westwood about it, but at that time they were getting ready to shut 'er down and UBB didn't even have a patch for it, so nothing ever came of it.

As for Kholdstare, I started talking to him a few years ago and we found that we had things in common, such as living in the same town but we haven't met because he's afraid my brother will kick his ass. I found out that it ended up being nice when you were a frequent victim of DDoS attacks to have a friend "in the business" as it were. But, to the best of my knowledge, at the time he just had "friends" with botnets who would do favors for him, and I can't prove or disprove whether people disconnected from my server after pissing him off were attacked or exploited or whatever, because he won't even admit anything to ME, I have done the next best thing and made sure he can't use any elevated access through me to retaliate against people who piss him off. (Oh, and since I hate dogs, I'm pretty sure I would never call someone "my" dog, so I don't know where that came from.) You all know how nice and forgiving I am and whatnot, and though I should ban the hell out of him for some of the things he's done, it's difficult for me to do that to a friend. (For reference on that, just look at how much I let Aircraftkiller get away with for the same reason.) And while I may have twisted the truth to some people in private about my friendship with Kholdstare to try and hide the fact that I have an overabundance of kind-heartedness, the truth is that we are friends, no more, no less.

However, if I find out you're not my friend and have been telling half-truths about me behind my back, knowing they'd be used against me in some unholy crusade, then I will ban the hell out of you.

I hope this clears things up. I'm not given the chance to defend myself over on the other side of this, because when I post there, even the most respectable of posts, I get replies with all sorts of insults and the dislike of me that started when I was associated with the retards of WL with the leaders and old-school members of CW has propagated over the years to people who don't even know why they're supposed to dislike me, they just do. It's amazing how badly the truth gets warped when you add years and rumors and hearsay to things, isn't it?

For the record, I have instituted a 7-day ban against the two who continued to attack me after I said it needed to stop. Yes, it's 7 days. If they don't come back after that, it's not because they're still banned. Anyone who's used FUDForum can attest to the fact that there is a field where you type in the number of days and it automagically unbans them at the end of that time.


I'm the bawss.

[Updated on: Sat, 16 September 2006 19:31]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Removed threads [message #219957 is a reply to message #219956] Sat, 16 September 2006 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
$c0p3 is currently offline  $c0p3
Messages: 155
Registered: April 2004
Karma: 0
Recruit
heh

edit: ha, im still here!


im best playa

[Updated on: Sat, 16 September 2006 19:42]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Removed threads [message #219958 is a reply to message #219956] Sat, 16 September 2006 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Crimson is currently offline  Crimson
Messages: 7429
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Karma: 0
General (5 Stars)
ADMINISTRATOR
You weren't attacking me. Siding with Spoony, maybe, but not attacking me.

I'm the bawss.
Re: Removed threads [message #219959 is a reply to message #219956] Sat, 16 September 2006 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
$c0p3 is currently offline  $c0p3
Messages: 155
Registered: April 2004
Karma: 0
Recruit
"Eternal suffering awaits anyone who questions God's infinite love"

why would someone that loves you make u suffer cuz u questionned the person's love?

that's flawed. that's why i stopped believing in religion 5 years or so ago


im best playa
Re: Removed threads [message #219960 is a reply to message #219956] Sat, 16 September 2006 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Crimson is currently offline  Crimson
Messages: 7429
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Karma: 0
General (5 Stars)
ADMINISTRATOR
I agree. I'm an atheist.

I'm the bawss.
Re: Removed threads [message #219961 is a reply to message #219956] Sat, 16 September 2006 19:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xptek is currently offline  xptek
Messages: 1410
Registered: August 2004
Location: USSA
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
Crimson wrote on Sat, 16 September 2006 22:29

Oh, and since I hate dogs, I'm pretty sure I would never call someone "my" dog, so I don't know where that came from.


Oh.. my god. Crying or Very sad


cause = time
Re: Removed threads [message #219962 is a reply to message #219956] Sat, 16 September 2006 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cheesesoda is currently offline  cheesesoda
Messages: 6507
Registered: March 2003
Location: Jackson, Michigan
Karma: 0
General (5 Stars)

Ugh, I'm not going to turn this into a religious debate thread, but... it's not eternal suffering for those who question His love, but for those who choose to live a life without God. It's not a punishment, it's just a consequence of choices made during one's life.

whoa.
Re: Removed threads [message #219963 is a reply to message #219956] Sat, 16 September 2006 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aprime
Messages: 900
Registered: July 2005
Location: Gatineau, Canada
Karma: 0
Colonel

[removed by request]

FUCK

[Updated on: Sat, 16 September 2006 20:10]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Removed threads [message #219964 is a reply to message #219956] Sat, 16 September 2006 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xptek is currently offline  xptek
Messages: 1410
Registered: August 2004
Location: USSA
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
What Renforums needs is some clean burning propane.

cause = time
Re: Removed threads [message #219971 is a reply to message #219956] Sat, 16 September 2006 21:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jimbo27 is currently offline  Jimbo27
Messages: 148
Registered: February 2004
Location: Pittsburgh
Karma: 0
Recruit
Hey! that was mean Sad bully

http://www.clanwars.cc/Leagues%5C_Games%5CSpoonRen%5CGlobal/MainBanner.jpg
Re: Removed threads [message #219977 is a reply to message #219956] Sat, 16 September 2006 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jonty is currently offline  Jonty
Messages: 538
Registered: June 2006
Location: Chesterfield, England
Karma: 0
Colonel
Viva la Resistance!
Well, I hope that clears everything up! Rocked Over
Oh, and for the record; it is not eternal suffering awaiting those who question God's love, God will forgive anyone who is really sorry for what they've done. However, it is eternal suffering for those who completely turn their back on God (not particularly Atheists, I mean people who hate God and do evil things, not people who don't believe in him.).
Then again, according to the Bible, eternal suffering and hell aren't firey pits of doom, they are just watching everyone else go to heaven and be happy for ever before you die, physically and spiritually. Big Grin

P.S. I'm not a vicar Tell Me
Re: Removed threads [message #219996 is a reply to message #219956] Sun, 17 September 2006 03:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnDoe is currently offline  JohnDoe
Messages: 1416
Registered: May 2006
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
I don't think Crimson will or is getting any backing from EA anymore (seeing as how clanwars is getting prizes sponsored by them), so what's the point in denying and changing the story all the time? How did this start anyway?

lol
Re: Removed threads [message #219997 is a reply to message #219956] Sun, 17 September 2006 03:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jnz is currently offline  jnz
Messages: 3396
Registered: July 2006
Location: 30th century
Karma: 0
General (3 Stars)
well, i am definetly on Crimsons side on this. this forum had really gone to hell lately i hope this is the end of all the flaming.

what does ddos stand for?
Re: Removed threads [message #220002 is a reply to message #219956] Sun, 17 September 2006 04:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JeepRubi is currently offline  JeepRubi
Messages: 1417
Registered: April 2005
Location: Ontario. Canada
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)

Im confused, whats going on?

HORQWER wrote on Tue, 18 September 2007 20:47

this is not a real renegade forums ,some one made it up

Renforums

We Know Drama

Renegade Forums - Official Drama Perpetuator.
Re: Removed threads [message #220003 is a reply to message #219956] Sun, 17 September 2006 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
futura83
Messages: 1285
Registered: July 2006
Location: England
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
Viva la Resistance!
who was the other person that got banned?(i know spoony did)

This is a signature. Reading this is wasting your time.
Re: Removed threads [message #220005 is a reply to message #219958] Sun, 17 September 2006 04:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Orca is currently offline  Orca
Messages: 31
Registered: July 2006
Karma: 0
Recruit
Crimson wrote on Sat, 16 September 2006 21:45

You weren't attacking me. Siding with Spoony, maybe, but not attacking me.

Pretty lame for you to ban Spoony for exposing you. Honestly your pathetic.

[Updated on: Sun, 17 September 2006 04:25]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Removed threads [message #220010 is a reply to message #219956] Sun, 17 September 2006 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nightma12 is currently offline  Nightma12
Messages: 2593
Registered: August 2003
Karma: 0
General (2 Stars)
Category Moderator
Orca... just let it go, help-linux is right, this has gone on for long enough now

and help-linux: DDOS stands for Distributed Deniel Of Service
Re: Removed threads [message #220016 is a reply to message #220010] Sun, 17 September 2006 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Orca is currently offline  Orca
Messages: 31
Registered: July 2006
Karma: 0
Recruit
Nightma12 wrote on Sun, 17 September 2006 06:30

Orca... just let it go, help-linux is right, this has gone on for long enough now

and help-linux: DDOS stands for Distributed Deniel Of Service


Here you are saying its gone on for long enough, which is what Spoony informed you all about and in return you ban him and back up the accused. Good job.
Re: Removed threads [message #220018 is a reply to message #219956] Sun, 17 September 2006 04:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnDoe is currently offline  JohnDoe
Messages: 1416
Registered: May 2006
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
The average IQ here is 54, so I doubt they even understood what's going on.

lol
Re: Removed threads [message #220019 is a reply to message #220018] Sun, 17 September 2006 05:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
futura83
Messages: 1285
Registered: July 2006
Location: England
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
Viva la Resistance!
JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 17 September 2006 12:54

The average IQ here is 54, so I doubt they even understood what's going on.


it was higher than that but then you joined...


This is a signature. Reading this is wasting your time.
Re: Removed threads [message #220021 is a reply to message #219956] Sun, 17 September 2006 05:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnDoe is currently offline  JohnDoe
Messages: 1416
Registered: May 2006
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
Means a lot coming from a 15 year old nerd with autism...

lol
Re: Removed threads [message #220022 is a reply to message #219956] Sun, 17 September 2006 05:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
futura83
Messages: 1285
Registered: July 2006
Location: England
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
Viva la Resistance!
what, and that comment is supposed to affect me.

i think i'll be the more mature one here and stop this before we have a flamewar.


This is a signature. Reading this is wasting your time.
Re: Removed threads [message #220025 is a reply to message #219977] Sun, 17 September 2006 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
$c0p3 is currently offline  $c0p3
Messages: 155
Registered: April 2004
Karma: 0
Recruit
Jonty wrote on Sun, 17 September 2006 02:18

Well, I hope that clears everything up! Rocked Over
Oh, and for the record; it is not eternal suffering awaiting those who question God's love, God will forgive anyone who is really sorry for what they've done. However, it is eternal suffering for those who completely turn their back on God (not particularly Atheists, I mean people who hate God and do evil things, not people who don't believe in him.).
Then again, according to the Bible, eternal suffering and hell aren't firey pits of doom, they are just watching everyone else go to heaven and be happy for ever before you die, physically and spiritually. Big Grin

P.S. I'm not a vicar Tell Me



moron please, quit acting like u've been through the process.

u need some education. maybe a couple of history lessons, just so u understand that the whole religion thing = (n)


im best playa
Re: Removed threads [message #220026 is a reply to message #220022] Sun, 17 September 2006 05:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
$c0p3 is currently offline  $c0p3
Messages: 155
Registered: April 2004
Karma: 0
Recruit
the17doctor wrote on Sun, 17 September 2006 08:37

what, and that comment is supposed to affect me.

i think i'll be the more mature one here and stop this before we have a flamewar.


hahaha

that sounded so corny.


im best playa
Re: Removed threads [message #220036 is a reply to message #220010] Sun, 17 September 2006 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
jnz is currently offline  jnz
Messages: 3396
Registered: July 2006
Location: 30th century
Karma: 0
General (3 Stars)
Nightma12 wrote on Sun, 17 September 2006 12:30

Orca... just let it go, help-linux is right, this has gone on for long enough now

and help-linux: DDOS stands for Distributed Deniel Of Service


Quote:


- On the Internet, a distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack is one in which a multitude of compromised systems attack a single target, thereby causing denial of service for users of the targeted system. The flood of incoming messages to the target system essentially forces it to shut down, thereby denying service to the system to legitimate users.
A hacker (or, if you prefer, cracker) begins a DDoS attack by exploiting a vulnerability in one computer system and making it the DDoS "master." It is from the master system that the intruder identifies and communicates with other systems that can be compromised. The intruder loads cracking tools available on the Internet on multiple -- sometimes thousands of -- compromised systems. With a single command, the intruder instructs the controlled machines to launch one of many flood attacks against a specified target. The inundation of packets to the target causes a denial of service.

While the press tends to focus on the target of DDoS attacks as the victim, in reality there are many victims in a DDoS attack -- the final target and as well the systems controlled by the intruder.



all i had to do was look in google. i keep forgetting to look.
Previous Topic: I would like to say im sorry.
Next Topic: RUMSFELD CHEATS
Goto Forum:
  


Current Time: Tue Nov 26 21:50:44 MST 2024

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.01729 seconds