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Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219338 is a reply to message #219331] Thu, 14 September 2006 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MaidenTy1 wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 01:07


Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 03:50

Wednesday, February 22nd, 2006... and when did you bring this all up? Wed, 07 June 2006 03:50... and you are proven a liar. Congratulations!

You fucking arrogant bitch. How does that prove me a "liar"? Last time I checked, the definition of "lying" is to make a statement you know to be untrue. Seeing as how I don't have access to this forum of which you speak, and therefore could not know of this conversation, then AT THE VERY MOST you've proven me to be mistaken. How fucking dare you label me a liar on that?


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You never gave a shit about providing clan support to Renegade until I posted that thread on XWIS. Go ahead and pretend that's untrue, I dare you.

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I challenge Crimson to refute this. The plain fact is making a clan ladder didn't even enter her mind until I made a thread on XWIS


Challenge met. Accusation NOT withdrawn.

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Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219339 is a reply to message #219338] Thu, 14 September 2006 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 03:22

Challenge met. Accusation NOT withdrawn.

actually, idiot...
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Seeing as how I don't have access to this forum of which you speak, and therefore could not know of this conversation, then AT THE VERY MOST you've proven me to be mistaken.


That's one accusation about which I was mistaken, and there you see I admit my error. It's really not a big deal for me to admit that... all that's changed is instead of not trying to create a clan ladder, it's merely taking you an unsufferably long time.

So far you've wrongly accused me of "lying", and wrongly accused me of hacking these forums, and you've withdrawn neither of these false accusations.


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Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219341 is a reply to message #218343] Thu, 14 September 2006 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry, but I can't say one way or another about you hacking or not hacking the forums until I can locate my logs from that time and figure out what you said to make me believe it was you. Maybe after I'm done waxing Blazer's ass crack I will dig them up and maybe "admit that I may have been mistaken". However, I'm pretty no one but you gives a shit.

And given that I don't know much about or participate in the CW site after a horrendous situation with the owners and creators of the site (at the time? I guess), I don't know who currently owns or runs it now and given your bubbly personality and childish insults, I'm also not really chomping at the bit and frantically opening a new tab to try and find out who is under the secret identities of "Renegade Admin 1" and "Renegade Admin 493"... if you're trying to keep their identities anonymous, then how do you expect me to figure out who the hell is in charge anyway?


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Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219342 is a reply to message #219341] Thu, 14 September 2006 01:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 03:33

Sorry, but I can't say one way or another about you hacking or not hacking the forums until I can locate my logs from that time and figure out what you said to make me believe it was you.

Then I'll refresh your memory.

At the time, I was on reasonably good terms with three parties: yourself, Olddust, and Jschultz. (to elaborate: co-owner of NoN00bs with Olddust, server mod at N00bstories and a long-time n00bstory writer, and just a general buddy of Jschultz) Funny how things change, eh?

Jschultz rented a server from Olddust and it was called N00bstations. It became rather popular and you became somehow affronted at its similar name to "N00bstories". Kholdstare decided to ddos N00bstations repeatedly. At roughly the same time you demanded their change the name of their community. Timing, for all I know, could have been a complete coincidence so I'll not make any accusations in your direction about the ddos attacks.

Me being in the middle of it and having a measure of respect for all three parties (not Kholdstare, obviously) didn't really want there to be a big ugly ddos-war, so I decided to try to negotiate some kind of peaceful solution with myself as a kind of mediator. I went to Olddust first: he said fine. I went to Jschultz: he said fine. I went to you, and your response was de-modding me from N00bstories (hardly a big deal since I rarely if ever played in public servers at the time) and telling Jschultz that if you didn't get your way, you'd publicise the accusation that NoN00bs was responsible for "Renguard's recent downtime". Completely fabricated, of course, and you knew it. That wouldn't stop many people believing it if you said it was true, though, and I think you knew that too.

I thought: fuck this. Olddust is willing to play nice, Jschultz is willing to play nice, you aren't. I said goodbye to N00bstories and said something along the lines of "it's been fun, cya". I forget my exact wording.

At the same time (and believe it or not, this was a COMPLETE coincidence) your forums got hacked. I pointed this out to you before I left the IRC conversation. Two entirely unrelated statements.

Your forums getting hacked was not me, nor done at my command, nor anything to do with me at all. I said so at the time.

Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 03:33

Maybe after I'm done waxing Blazer's ass crack I will dig them up and maybe "admit that I may have been mistaken". However, I'm pretty no one but you gives a shit.

Ah. So you need not withdraw a false accusation on the grounds that "you're the only one who gives a shit".

I'll be honest: it really means nothing to me that I was incorrectly accused of this. In fact most of CW thought it was hilarious, myself included. I merely bring it up as a parallel.

Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 03:33

And given that I don't know much about or participate in the CW site after a horrendous situation with the owners and creators of the site (at the time? I guess)

ah... you mean when WL guys photoshopped screenshots wrongly implicating Oompah (the creator of Clanwars.cc) of "fixing" [CW] and [WL]'s ladder points? Or perhaps when, again, WL guys decided that a good use of admin powers on these forums would be to steal [CW] members' accounts and use them for evil purposes?

Tell me, what's the worst anyone from [CW] ever did to you? Call you fat? It doesn't tip the scale.

Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 03:33

I don't know who currently owns or runs it now and given your bubbly personality and childish insults, I'm also not really chomping at the bit and frantically opening a new tab to try and find out who is under the secret identities of "Renegade Admin 1" and "Renegade Admin 493"... if you're trying to keep their identities anonymous, then how do you expect me to figure out who the hell is in charge anyway?

Does it matter who the admins are? I'll answer it for you: if they're doing a good job, no. They are doing a good job. If you want proof, make an anonymous account on Smak forums, say you're a new player thinking of joining the league but want to know if it's run maturely, and ask the community what they think of the admins.

And *I* am currently in charge of it. Now, you can say whatever you like about me personally, but I run the league with the utmost professionalism.


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Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219344 is a reply to message #218343] Thu, 14 September 2006 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jimbo27 wrote on Wed, 13 September 2006 14:19

clanwars.cc is actually a 100% legitimate, working, intact website that serves every decent clan on renegade.

[NE] does not use clanwars.cc, and I daresay proud of it. Most of the clans on clanwars.cc have a lot of idiots. Those that aren't idiots have huge ego problems. Call it elitism, call it bias, call it what you want. I don't like the people on clanwars.cc, so I will do everything I can to keep my clan off of it.

Crimson is not the one to be blamed for how slowly things are being worked on within BHS, at all. Far from it, she's going against walls at many fronts and that is what's slowing things down.

As much as I would like to comment more, I can only foresee that arriving to a lot of flaming going multiple ways.


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Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219345 is a reply to message #219342] Thu, 14 September 2006 02:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MaidenTy1 wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 01:48

you'd publicise the accusation that NoN00bs was responsible for "Renguard's recent downtime". Completely fabricated, of course, and you knew it. That wouldn't stop many people believing it if you said it was true, though, and I think you knew that too.


I think you forgot to mention the huge DDoS attack that olddust sent at all of my servers, crippling the entire RenGuard network. I mean, in the interest of honesty and fairness. I didn't just pretend there was a huge outage. There actually WAS a huge outage, and it WAS caused by olddust... no one involved except him had the capacity to launch such a large attack at that time and it was common knowledge among a large segment of the community that he had quite a substatial botnet.

Not to rehash this old, old, shit but the "n00bstations" name was TOO similar to n00bstories. So similar, in fact, that I was fielding complaints from unsatisfied players on the "n00bstations" server who read the name quickly and assumed it was "n00bstories". I could not and would not tolerate someone making a server that had a very similar name to the community I had established, then to have it run by n00bs at the time who were pissing off players. And I think a lot of people can attest to the fact that jschultz liked to piss people off, at least back then and even as recently as the last few months. Maybe you guys didn't care, but you guys weren't the owners of "n00bstories" which the name strongly resembled. Though I had nothing to do with any alleged attacks, I did express to anyone who would listen my displeasure with their choice of name and I did ask for it to be changed and even offered to pay for a new domain registration.

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At the same time (and believe it or not, this was a COMPLETE coincidence) your forums got hacked. I pointed this out to you before I left the IRC conversation. Two entirely unrelated statements.

Your forums getting hacked was not me, nor done at my command, nor anything to do with me at all. I said so at the time.


You might be talking about the time xptek and friends used a phpBB exploit and deleted stuff, prompting the move to FUDForum. If so, I would imagine that the repeated acknowledgement by both myself and the attackers of who the attackers were should have been sufficient enough for you not to bring this pointless crap up again.

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ah... you mean when WL guys photoshopped screenshots blah blah blah


Uh oh, I'm repeating myself again. My old disputes with the CW clan do not include any alleged faked screenshots. They are completely related to their whining and crying about the results of a 7-game matchup we had 4 years ago. What my moronic and childish ex-clanmates did at that time is not and wasn't condoned by me. I was satisfied to discuss the multi-game match on its merits, no screenshot fakery necessary.

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Tell me, what's the worst anyone from [CW] ever did to you? Call you fat? It doesn't tip the scale.


Let's see, how about the last time I tried to share some information with that community, someone posted anonymously calling themselves "Crimson" and put words in my mouth, words that TO THIS DAY I still have to live up to even though I NEVER SAID THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE! But why should I be worried about that, it's just my reputation, that's all. And none of this glorified staff could even lift a finger to say "hey, we compared IPs and this anonymous person wasn't Crimson at all". To allow someone to be impersonated isn't really what I would call "professional". It is something that I never allow and threaten fake bodily harm for.


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"Most" clans? More like three or four, out of dozens?

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Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219348 is a reply to message #219345] Thu, 14 September 2006 02:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 11:13

I think you forgot to mention the huge DDoS attack that olddust sent at all of my servers, crippling the entire RenGuard network. I mean, in the interest of honesty and fairness. I didn't just pretend there was a huge outage. There actually WAS a huge outage, and it WAS caused by olddust... no one involved except him had the capacity to launch such a large attack at that time and it was common knowledge among a large segment of the community that he had quite a substatial botnet.

Is that why, when you said this to Jschultz, you said it didn't matter whether it was true or not?

Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 11:13

Not to rehash this old, old, shit but the "n00bstations" name was TOO similar to n00bstories. So similar, in fact, that I was fielding complaints from unsatisfied players on the "n00bstations" server who read the name quickly and assumed it was "n00bstories". I could not and would not tolerate someone making a server that had a very similar name to the community I had established, then to have it run by n00bs at the time who were pissing off players. And I think a lot of people can attest to the fact that jschultz liked to piss people off, at least back then and even as recently as the last few months. Maybe you guys didn't care, but you guys weren't the owners of "n00bstories" which the name strongly resembled. Though I had nothing to do with any alleged attacks, I did express to anyone who would listen my displeasure with their choice of name and I did ask for it to be changed and even offered to pay for a new domain registration.

The fact that the names are similar (which was probably an accident anyway) is much, much worse than what Kholdstare did. You wouldn't condemn the actions of "your pet bulldog" (and I'm using your expression there, not mine), if you remember, yet you were ALL OVER someone having a superficially similar community name...

Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 11:13

You might be talking about the time xptek and friends used a phpBB exploit and deleted stuff, prompting the move to FUDForum. If so, I would imagine that the repeated acknowledgement by both myself and the attackers of who the attackers were should have been sufficient enough for you not to bring this pointless crap up again.

When was this, because I sure as hell never saw it...

Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 11:13

Uh oh, I'm repeating myself again. My old disputes with the CW clan do not include any alleged faked screenshots.

Alleged? There's no "alleged" about it. WL faked a screenshot which "proved" that Oomp posted a topic in the private forums saying he'd never let WL get ahead of CW on the ladder and if they shaved the points off gradually, no one would notice.

If I recall it took Bluuurrr about five minutes to find half a dozen things wrong with the screenshot (incorrect registration dates, member numbers, pixellation etc) and Stripey another ten minutes to find another dozen more mistakes WL made.

There is no "alleged" about this.

Let's not forget the "stealing CW players' accounts on this very forum" either. Either of those two things is sure as hell worse than anything I've ever done on this game.

Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 11:13

Let's see, how about the last time I tried to share some information with that community, someone posted anonymously calling themselves "Crimson" and put words in my mouth, words that TO THIS DAY I still have to live up to even though I NEVER SAID THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE! But why should I be worried about that, it's just my reputation, that's all. And none of this glorified staff could even lift a finger to say "hey, we compared IPs and this anonymous person wasn't Crimson at all". To allow someone to be impersonated isn't really what I would call "professional". It is something that I never allow and threaten fake bodily harm for.

Big deal admin-wise, most likely they missed the topic or figured it was a joke. I know it wasn't long after that thread that you couldn't post anonymously, so maybe that's why...
I think there's a little distinction between an admin not noticing that (or possibly not paying it too much heed) and an admin actually stealing someone's account, as happened to the CW guys on this very forum.

That topic is long gone by the way, those forums aren't even viewable anymore... but would you like me to make a sticky thread on Smak Forums explaining that it wasn't you? I don't really see what else you expect me to do...


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I don't see how it would matter. At any rate, I found the thread:

http://136.142.210.78/cw/ubb/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topi c;f=14;t=002154;p=1

The first post anonymous was mine. All the rest of the anonymous "Crimson"'s were not me and an IP check would confirm it. After the initial post I found my login and posted with my real account which is quite old (May 10, 2002).

However, everything the fake "Crimson" said in that thread, except the first post, are words that I am still being held to, to this day.

And if you want to see an example of what happened last time I tried to use the CW site when I was in a clan, check out this thread where, to this date, my clan was never credited with the wins.

http://136.142.210.78/cw/ubb/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topi c;f=14;t=000902;p=1


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Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 10:49

I don't see how it would matter. At any rate, I found the thread:

http://136.142.210.78/cw/ubb/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topi c;f=14;t=002154;p=1

The first post anonymous was mine. All the rest of the anonymous "Crimson"'s were not me and an IP check would confirm it.

Yeah. That is true. I believe I've already publicly said this.

Some idiot impersonated you, and that means Clanwars.cc is not and never will be capable of running a clan ladder... please.

Every time I see someone say they aren't using Clanwars.cc because blah blah blah... it's NEVER because of a flaw in the system or an incompetent admin. I love that. It's always something that happened two years ago, or one random idiot who doesn't represent the site starting a flamewar somewhere...

Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 10:49

However, everything the fake "Crimson" said in that thread, except the first post, are words that I am still being held to, to this day.

no, you aren't... I held them to you ONCE because I didn't know it was an impersonator. Your first post was anonymous, what do you expect? Then you told me it was an impersonator, and quite simply, I believed you without bothering to look for proof. I don't recall anyone else bringing them up... for a long, long time.

Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 10:49

And if you want to see an example of what happened last time I tried to use the CW site when I was in a clan, check out this thread where, to this date, my clan was never credited with the wins.

Stop me if I'm wrong but didn't the Renegade Admin give you the points?

That was the old ladder on auto, and an auto league is never perfect. Even our new BFME2 auto league (the official one we run for EA, in the most definite sense of the word "official") isn't perfect, sometimes games don't report because gamespy are crap, no offence to them. That's the nature of the beast for an auto league, and it's why we changed to a manual league a year ago (the fact the automatic clan pages kept dying was also part of it). FYI, this was about a month or two before I first became a ren-admin. Since the change to manual league, there has never been a problem of that nature. Game data has never, ever been lost in the manner auto league data could be, and (this I promise you:) will be for your project.


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by the way, the funniest thing I've seen all week has now been replaced by a quote from Blurrr from that thread.

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Coincidentally, if you check the westwood standings right now, youll find this for the top 4.

1. W3NDYS 119 wins / 46 losses 10,038
2. +DOA+ 52 wins / 5 losses 10,022
3. **NS** 278 wins / 98 losses 10,015
4. -WL- 3 wins / 1 losses 10,014

I guess its easy to see why WL would hate the clanwars ladder so much, I mean how can you justify being 3-1 and being in 4th place, JUST ONE POINT behind a clan that is 278 - 98.

^^ crap like that is why oompah made Clanwars.cc in the first place. And there are still people here who say the Westwood ladder was worth something...


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All I'm trying to say is that given these experiences, you wonder why my impression of CW.cc is so piss poor. I don't know if we ever got the points and quite frankly I don't care. The clan doesn't even exist anymore.

The only way data would be lost is if the FDS failed to send it at the end of the map. We are not using Westwood's software, we are using software written by us (Silent Kane mostly). Adding in a way to manually report a match that was missed wouldn't be a huge stretch to add.


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Kanezor wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 11:04

Jimbo27 wrote on Wed, 13 September 2006 14:19

clanwars.cc is actually a 100% legitimate, working, intact website that serves every decent clan on renegade.

[NE] does not use clanwars.cc, and I daresay proud of it. Most of the clans on clanwars.cc have a lot of idiots. Those that aren't idiots have huge ego problems. Call it elitism, call it bias, call it what you want. I don't like the people on clanwars.cc, so I will do everything I can to keep my clan off of it.

Crimson is not the one to be blamed for how slowly things are being worked on within BHS, at all. Far from it, she's going against walls at many fronts and that is what's slowing things down.



Is it me or BHS does fuck all? Okay, good job on 1.03 and core patches. Whats happened 1.04? You can promise these ladders but if something doesn't happen soon Renegade will be ghost game.

GET 1.04 OUT FOR FUCKS SAKE. The cheating accusation culture what circulates around Renegade is killing the game faster than any amounts of idiots can.

Oh back to the quote. So, what if you don't like someone at work, do you quit? Grow up.

So what if they are idiots, i bet there are always a number of idiots on a server at any given time. They haven't got huge egos, they are good players and they can back it up.

Besides, do NE actually play clans anymore? Or do they think all other clans cheat?


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Acey#GW wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 15:05

Kanezor wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 11:04

Jimbo27 wrote on Wed, 13 September 2006 14:19

clanwars.cc is actually a 100% legitimate, working, intact website that serves every decent clan on renegade.

[NE] does not use clanwars.cc, and I daresay proud of it. Most of the clans on clanwars.cc have a lot of idiots. Those that aren't idiots have huge ego problems. Call it elitism, call it bias, call it what you want. I don't like the people on clanwars.cc, so I will do everything I can to keep my clan off of it.

Crimson is not the one to be blamed for how slowly things are being worked on within BHS, at all. Far from it, she's going against walls at many fronts and that is what's slowing things down.



Is it me or BHS does fuck all? Okay, good job on 1.03 and core patches. Whats happened 1.04? You can promise these ladders but if something doesn't happen soon Renegade will be ghost game.

GET 1.04 OUT FOR FUCKS SAKE. The cheating accusation culture what circulates around Renegade is killing the game faster than any amounts of idiots can.

Oh back to the quote. So, what if you don't like someone at work, do you quit? Grow up.

So what if they are idiots, i bet there are always a number of idiots on a server at any given time. They haven't got huge egos, they are good players and they can back it up.

Besides, do NE actually play clans anymore? Or do they think all other clans cheat?

Remind me again of what you did for Renegade? I must have missed it.

As to Maiden and Crimson: Maiden, it seems Crimson offered you a possibility to help out on the ladder. Seems like she is asking you who could consult. Why should she then give names? You know best who could be suitable at CW.cc to do this, not?

As to all these old stories, it's totally irrelevant now. It just shows how stubborn both of you are.

TBH Maiden, maybe it's time to stop arguing and thinking everyone that comes close to you just wants to bash you or your ladder. Grab the opportunity and makei t something good ffs.


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Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 11:12

All I'm trying to say is that given these experiences, you wonder why my impression of CW.cc is so piss poor.


MaidenTy1 wrote:

Every time I see someone say they aren't using Clanwars.cc because blah blah blah... it's NEVER because of a flaw in the system or an incompetent admin. I love that. It's always something that happened two years ago, or one random idiot who doesn't represent the site starting a flamewar somewhere...


Read that again and see if it clicks. Just remember that unlike you, I don't publicly post misinformation about any of your projects, as you've done about mine on innumerable occasions, because of -a- something that happened years ago, or -b- the fact a minority of players who use it are infantile.

Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 11:12

I don't know if we ever got the points and quite frankly I don't care. The clan doesn't even exist anymore.

yet you publicly use it as an example of you not getting the points for a game?

MaidenTy1 wrote:

As to Maiden and Crimson: Maiden, it seems Crimson offered you a possibility to help out on the ladder. Seems like she is asking you who could consult. Why should she then give names? You know best who could be suitable at CW.cc to do this, not?

I don't think you understand very well.

You remember the Strike-Team thread, don't you? I'm sure you have at least a vague recollection since you posted a few times in it. When I made the proposal to XWIS, Crimson's first reply was something like "go look at their forums and see if they're capable of running a league".

That is the biggest pile of bullshit imaginable. Since the league was re-launched I daresay you could look as hard as you like and not find a single instance of unprofessionalism or bad management from the people actually running the show, the ADMINS. But omfg, there is a minority of idiots on the forums. I say again: there is a minority of idiots who use Renguard, there is a minority of idiots who use Renegadeforums.com, there is a minority of idiots who use Gamespy, there is a minority of idiots who use XWIS. And apprently unlike Crimson, I'm actually bright enough to not criticise those projects unless it's the ADMINS who fuck things up.

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TBH Maiden, maybe it's time to stop arguing and thinking everyone that comes close to you just wants to bash you or your ladder. Grab the opportunity and makei t something good ffs.

in case you haven't noticed, I've been running the league for some considerable time now.


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I was talking about the x-wis ladder. There lays your opportunity to work with Crimson at something that would be good for every ren player AND clanwars.cc (auto report games, anyone?).

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I already do work for something which is (potentially) good for every ren player and clanwars.cc. I've been working at it for about a year. It's not my fault people continually post misinformation, and in some cases outright lies, about it... and never retract any of them when I prove them to be absolutely dead wrong. God knows I've done that often enough...

...as for auto-report games, when we changed to manual last year there were about three or four dozen advantages (of manual as opposed to auto) and one disadvantage which was incorrect anyway, so forgive me if I don't see the big deal of going auto. Auto isn't better, it just SEEMS easier (and in actuality, it isn't)


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Goztow wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 15:17


Remind me again of what you did for Renegade? I must have missed it.




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Kanezor wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 05:04

Jimbo27 wrote on Wed, 13 September 2006 14:19

clanwars.cc is actually a 100% legitimate, working, intact website that serves every decent clan on renegade.

[NE] does not use clanwars.cc, and I daresay proud of it. Most of the clans on clanwars.cc have a lot of idiots. Those that aren't idiots have huge ego problems. Call it elitism, call it bias, call it what you want. I don't like the people on clanwars.cc, so I will do everything I can to keep my clan off of it.

Crimson is not the one to be blamed for how slowly things are being worked on within BHS, at all. Far from it, she's going against walls at many fronts and that is what's slowing things down.

As much as I would like to comment more, I can only foresee that arriving to a lot of flaming going multiple ways.


If your clan is the same [NE] from gamespy that used to play [gse], no offense but you guys sucked. Seriously, you sucked. So did every other clan on GSA except #GW and gse.

You, like so many other people, simply call CW.cc people "idiots" because they are vastly better than you. That is the plain and simple truth.


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Jimbo27 wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 17:14


You, like so many other people, simply call CW.cc people "idiots" because they are vastly better than you. That is the plain and simple truth.


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MaidenTy1 wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 03:48

Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 03:33

Sorry, but I can't say one way or another about you hacking or not hacking the forums until I can locate my logs from that time and figure out what you said to make me believe it was you.

Then I'll refresh your memory.

At the time, I was on reasonably good terms with three parties: yourself, Olddust, and Jschultz. (to elaborate: co-owner of NoN00bs with Olddust, server mod at N00bstories and a long-time n00bstory writer, and just a general buddy of Jschultz) Funny how things change, eh?

Jschultz rented a server from Olddust and it was called N00bstations. It became rather popular and you became somehow affronted at its similar name to "N00bstories". Kholdstare decided to ddos N00bstations repeatedly. At roughly the same time you demanded their change the name of their community. Timing, for all I know, could have been a complete coincidence so I'll not make any accusations in your direction about the ddos attacks.

Me being in the middle of it and having a measure of respect for all three parties (not Kholdstare, obviously) didn't really want there to be a big ugly ddos-war, so I decided to try to negotiate some kind of peaceful solution with myself as a kind of mediator. I went to Olddust first: he said fine. I went to Jschultz: he said fine. I went to you, and your response was de-modding me from N00bstories (hardly a big deal since I rarely if ever played in public servers at the time) and telling Jschultz that if you didn't get your way, you'd publicise the accusation that NoN00bs was responsible for "Renguard's recent downtime". Completely fabricated, of course, and you knew it. That wouldn't stop many people believing it if you said it was true, though, and I think you knew that too.


Hi spoony, still have a pole up your ass I see.

Ahh yes, Jschultz. Thief and overall fuckwit. After his (pathetic) attempts to attack the IRC network he resorted to attacking crimson's renegade servers. I thought he would like a taste of his own medicine. this was done on behalf of no one but myself. I do not like people who fuck with networks I frequent, period. Also note that a known (now patched) FDS exploit != DDoS.

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Comrade wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 20:49

Jimbo27 wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 17:14


You, like so many other people, simply call CW.cc people "idiots" because they are vastly better than you. That is the plain and simple truth.


Hi, my cock's bigger than yours.

No way, I've got 26 inches nP.

Go away, geek.


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Jimbo27 wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 18:18

No way, I've got 2.6 inches nP.

Go away, geek.


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