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that serves every decent clan on renegade
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I can positively say that is incorrect. Unless CW.cc serves every decent clan because a clan isn't decent if it doesn't play at CW.cc (in your mind). Then you are prooving your own point, which obviously for any intelligent being seems flawed.
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219238 is a reply to message #218343] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 13:50 |
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1) One only has to visit the cw.cc forums to see what the so-called "decent clan community" looks like.
2) There WILL be another ladder, I daresay it will be up within the next 3-4 months.
This thread has been moved to the Hot Topics forum where it seems to belong.
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219280 is a reply to message #218343] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 17:50 |
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If EA was actually going to do something in renegade, the last thing they would probably care to fix would be the clan ladder. So using the excuse that since there's an alternative ladder, they decided not to do anything to fix the clan ladder, is just pretty stupid. If EA really cared, they'd fix major problems like ob walking and what not. Also it does seem a bit strange that only after some YEARS of the clan ranking not working, it suddenly becomes a priority. I would work more towards the new RG than fixing the clan ladder when there's already an alternative. I mean I know it takes a lot of work to completely rewrite it or whatever you had to do, but I don't think the original RG took this long. Then again, that's just me.
By the way there *is* an alternative to clanwars.cc - there's the league called ESL, which is primarily european, and one of the clans I know who was in it caught a clan cheating and the ESL admins did nothing. Oh wait, yeah they did, they banned the clan that exposed the cheaters. Awesome alternative. Don't know if it's active anymore, though
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219281 is a reply to message #219226] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 18:03 |
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| Goztow wrote on Wed, 13 September 2006 16:00 |
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that serves every decent clan on renegade
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I can positively say that is incorrect. Unless CW.cc serves every decent clan because a clan isn't decent if it doesn't play at CW.cc (in your mind). Then you are prooving your own point, which obviously for any intelligent being seems flawed.
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I know for a fact that there isnt a single clan on renegade thats half decent that does not participate in clanwars.cc
Name one that could compete with the clans on clanwars.cc. Then have them play us to back it up.
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219285 is a reply to message #219238] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 18:18 |
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| Crimson wrote on Wed, 13 September 2006 16:50 |
1) One only has to visit the cw.cc forums to see what the so-called "decent clan community" looks like.
2) There WILL be another ladder, I daresay it will be up within the next 3-4 months.
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A working auto-report ladder. In all honesty, that would be great.
However, let's stop and reflect for a second on what you just said.
"There WILL be another ladder"... Okay. That is then, this is now. For the next few months at least, clanwars is THE ladder. God, it must KILL you that EA actually endorses us. You seem so intent on killing clanwars.cc. (the sad thing is everyone automatically agrees with you)
"I DARESAY...3-4 months"... You don't sound too sure of yourself on this. What even is the necessity for another clan ladder when the current one works fine? Look at C&C generals, for instance. It's manual ladder has been working for years. No reason that renegade's would fail.
Let's be honest, Crimson. Your hate for clanwars.cc came from the early days when WL played CW in clanwars. I wasn't on WOL then, so I don't know the details. But I do know that some of the players from [CW] got on your nerves. Furthermore, you seem to get thoroughly irritated by a few "immature" people on clanwars, like wrs or soul for instance. Just ignore them ffs. The majority of people on clanwars forums are fine.
We can all get along. I know we can.
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219311 is a reply to message #219238] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 23:46 |
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| Crimson wrote on Wed, 13 September 2006 15:50 |
1) One only has to visit the cw.cc forums to see what the so-called "decent clan community" looks like.
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I never tire of hearing this bullshit from you, and the fact you simply do not realise how horribly flawed it is.
Shall I copy-paste our recent email conversation about your auto ladder project? You said you'd love my help but didn't want to involve "the clanwars.cc people" on the grounds that they're all immature.
Now, I challenged you to explain exactly who you mean by this - you couldn't think of a response, but I'll happily give you another go. It can't be the admins in charge of Renegade, because we administrate the Renegade league in a mature and professional manner. It can't be any specific player because why would you need their involvement?
So what did your statement mean?
If your entire anti-CW argument is based on the fact that there is a minority of idiots who use it, then by the same "logic" Renguard, XWIS, Gamespy, Renegadeforums.com and every single public server is equally guilty.
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2) There WILL be another ladder, I daresay it will be up within the next 3-4 months.
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Thank god. You've only neglected it for ten months and counting, so thank god. You never gave a shit about providing clan support to Renegade until I posted that thread on XWIS. Go ahead and pretend that's untrue, I dare you. Considering how often you've publicly stated that clans and a clan league are a waste of time, etc. It's plain to me that you couldn't give two hoots whether there's a functional league, you just can't handle Clanwars.cc getting rightful credit for something.
On my watch as admin/overseer of the renegade league, there has never been a single 24-hour stretch where either myself or a fellow admin wasn't there to add peoples' games, answer questions, etc. Compare that to your ten-month stretch of utter neglect.
| Crimson wrote on Wed, 13 September 2006 15:50 |
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Fine by me. Way to dodge my earlier statement directed at you, by the way. Reminds me of Snipler or whatever the hell his/her name was, because he/she still hasn't had the common decency to admit he/she was absolutely dead wrong about every feeble point he/she attempted to make.
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219312 is a reply to message #219285] |
Wed, 13 September 2006 23:47 |
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| Jimbo27 wrote on Wed, 13 September 2006 20:18 |
Let's be honest, Crimson. Your hate for clanwars.cc came from the early days when WL played CW in clanwars. I wasn't on WOL then, so I don't know the details.
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I do know the details, even though I wasn't around then.
The absolute worst anyone from [CW] did was a little forum flaming. You'd probably be quite surprised about some of the stuff WL did... it's quite funny, some of it.
Everyone, and I mean everyone from [CW] back then got over all the fucked up shit that WL did A LONG time ago. Crimson is still angry at [CW] even though they didn't do anything. Go figure.
I withdraw my offer to assist your ladder project, by the way.
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219316 is a reply to message #219281] |
Thu, 14 September 2006 00:06 |
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| Jimbo27 wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 03:03 |
| Goztow wrote on Wed, 13 September 2006 16:00 |
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that serves every decent clan on renegade
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I can positively say that is incorrect. Unless CW.cc serves every decent clan because a clan isn't decent if it doesn't play at CW.cc (in your mind). Then you are prooving your own point, which obviously for any intelligent being seems flawed.
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I know for a fact that there isnt a single clan on renegade thats half decent that does not participate in clanwars.cc
Name one that could compete with the clans on clanwars.cc. Then have them play us to back it up.
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Click at my siggy.
And before you ask: HR challenged us and got beaten up quite badly. You asked me to name one, and i gave you one.
We got beaten up by GW but then again: not many can say they haven't, can they?
I remember MrPirate challenging us once but we never played him because we simply don't play people which show bad attitude.
Sure, we play for fun, not in competition but we can put up a good fight against most clans. Ask PApirate.
If you want to do a funwar with us, go to our forums and ask for one in a decent way, then we will arrange a date, time, number of players and maps. Might not be in a couple of days though, we try to keep it to 1-2 funwars per week and we already have some appointments.
And don't give me the "I only play for CW.cc points" thing, please  .
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219318 is a reply to message #218343] |
Thu, 14 September 2006 00:10 |
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Tbh even though I <3 Jimbo I don't agree with the whole "only Clanwars.cc clans are any good" angle. At least, I believe it is LARGELY true (though not completely) but I don't find it a very tasteful statement.
He's bang on about everything else.
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219320 is a reply to message #219318] |
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| MaidenTy1 wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 09:10 |
Tbh even though I <3 Jimbo I don't agree with the whole "only Clanwars.cc clans are any good" angle. At least, I believe it is LARGELY true (though not completely) but I don't find it a very tasteful statement.
He's bang on about everything else.
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You are probably right because exercice makes clans good but there are other ways to exercice, though you need to have many community contacts to get in contact with enough other worthful clans. clanwars.cc makes that easier.
However, as anyone can join up at cw.cc, it's normal that you must also have beginning clans that aren't good.
I think a statement like "you can find many good clans at clanwars.cc" would be more appropriate.
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219321 is a reply to message #219311] |
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| MaidenTy1 wrote on Wed, 13 September 2006 23:46 |
Shall I copy-paste our recent email conversation about your auto ladder project? You said you'd love my help but didn't want to involve "the clanwars.cc people" on the grounds that they're all immature.
Now, I challenged you to explain exactly who you mean by this - you couldn't think of a response, but I'll happily give you another go. It can't be the admins in charge of Renegade, because we administrate the Renegade league in a mature and professional manner. It can't be any specific player because why would you need their involvement?
So what did your statement mean?
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Maybe YOU need to check your inbox, because I replied to you and you never wrote back:
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----- Original Message -----
From: Christine Korza
To: spoony@clanwars.cc
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: VPC Consultant
I think you misunderstand me. I recognize that the people who have the most knowledge about clanning in Renegade are members of the cw.cc community. As a result, I had always intended to approach you guys for your input on this project. Hence, I'm glad that you are interested in this project.
-Christine
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From: Will Rose
To: crimson@blackhand-studios.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: VPC Consultant
So "most of them" refers to a small minority who in no way represent the site, and that's why CW is unsuited for such a project? Stop me if I'm misinterpreting your statement somehow.
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You're welcome.
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You never gave a shit about providing clan support to Renegade until I posted that thread on XWIS. Go ahead and pretend that's untrue, I dare you.
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100% bullshit. You can't claim to know my plans or my thoughts. I don't like to announce things before they're at least starting to come to fruition. We are currently running a successful test of the new ladder system. All that's left is the database components.
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Considering how often you've publicly stated that clans and a clan league are a waste of time, etc.
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I did? When? I used to be in a clan... just because I don't have the time to be in a clan at the moment doesn't mean I think they're a waste of time.
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On my watch as admin/overseer of the renegade league, there has never been a single 24-hour stretch where either myself or a fellow admin wasn't there to add peoples' games, answer questions, etc. Compare that to your ten-month stretch of utter neglect.
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Well, on my watch as admin/overseer of the Renegade Forums, the RenGuard network, the n00bstories Renegade server, the n00bstories IRC network, and the n00bstories website, there has never been a 24-hour stretch where I wasn't there to answer questions or emails or private messages. Is that a worthwhile comparison?
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Way to dodge my earlier statement directed at you, by the way.
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Sorry, but most of the time I can't bring up the energy to respond to shit when you seem to ignore that I ever said anything later.
Withdraw your request... I don't mind. You're the one who came to me, remember?
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219322 is a reply to message #218343] |
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Oh, crap, I have to repeat myself again. I will continue to stand by my stance that the CW clan was in the wrong in their whining about the clan matches between WL and CW, and I will continue to agree that most of the members of WL were a bunch of crybabies. As soon as they had to actually TRY to win, they lost interest in this game. Their arguments were stupid, and good riddance to them. Can you please tattoo this on your forehead so I stop being accused of saying anything besides this?
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219323 is a reply to message #219280] |
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 02:50 |
Also it does seem a bit strange that only after some YEARS of the clan ranking not working, it suddenly becomes a priority. I would work more towards the new RG than fixing the clan ladder when there's already an alternative.
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As I say...
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You never gave a shit about providing clan support to Renegade until I posted that thread on XWIS. Go ahead and pretend that's untrue, I dare you. Considering how often you've publicly stated that clans and a clan league are a waste of time, etc. It's plain to me that you couldn't give two hoots whether there's a functional league, you just can't handle Clanwars.cc getting rightful credit for something.
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I challenge Crimson to refute this. The plain fact is making a clan ladder didn't even enter her mind until I made a thread on XWIS (who have made no efforts to create a Renegade clan ladder either) suggesting an endorsement for the Clanwars.cc ladder which was already in existence, seeing as how nobody else could be bothered to do it. Crimson tried quite surprisingly hard to stop this, although failed... mainly due to the fact her "arguments" were complete garbage. I think it was about a week later that she suddenly announced that she's always wanted to provide clan support to Renegade and is gonna fix up a new clan ladder, DESPITE her constant earlier statements that clans and a clan league are a waste of time.
She didn't give a shit about the ten months of utter negligence Renegade's clan support status has had from those in authority. Yet when it seemed likely that a community she still has an irrational hatred of might get this honour, suddenly it's top of her agenda. I can put it no plainer than by saying she doesn't care about providing Renegade's clan support - she simply wants to take something away from Clanwars.cc.
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219324 is a reply to message #218343] |
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Until you are privy to all the emails exchanged between EA, myself, and Strike Team, plus all the private chats between the BHS members, and and tape recordings of my conversations with Blazer, you'd better watch what lies you're spouting. I have ALWAYS wanted to get both ladders back up, and I have ALWAYS intended to post a thread on the CW forums asking if anyone amongst them wanted to consult on the project when it was time. There's a thing called priorities, and for now, there is a gap in Silent Kane's time where he was able to finish his part of the ladder project. We are currently running a test of the software which is creating text file dumps until the database components are done:
[root@box logs]# ls -l
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219326 is a reply to message #219321] |
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About the e-mails, all I find necessary to say is that you still haven't answered this question:
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Now, I challenged you to explain exactly who you mean by this - you couldn't think of a response, but I'll happily give you another go. It can't be the admins in charge of Renegade, because we administrate the Renegade league in a mature and professional manner. It can't be any specific player because why would you need their involvement?
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| Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 02:15 |
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You never gave a shit about providing clan support to Renegade until I posted that thread on XWIS. Go ahead and pretend that's untrue, I dare you.
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100% bullshit. You can't claim to know my plans or my thoughts. I don't like to announce things before they're at least starting to come to fruition.
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Who do you think you're convincing here?
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Considering how often you've publicly stated that clans and a clan league are a waste of time, etc.
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I did? When?
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all the time...
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On my watch as admin/overseer of the renegade league, there has never been a single 24-hour stretch where either myself or a fellow admin wasn't there to add peoples' games, answer questions, etc. Compare that to your ten-month stretch of utter neglect.
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Well, on my watch as admin/overseer of the Renegade Forums, the RenGuard network, the n00bstories Renegade server, the n00bstories IRC network, and the n00bstories website, there has never been a 24-hour stretch where I wasn't there to answer questions or emails or private messages. Is that a worthwhile comparison?
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No, because I was talking about clan ladder.
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Way to dodge my earlier statement directed at you, by the way.
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Sorry, but most of the time I can't bring up the energy to respond to shit when you seem to ignore that I ever said anything later.
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You didn't reply to my earlier statement at all.
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Withdraw your request... I don't mind. You're the one who came to me, remember?
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Request? I offered assistance for your benefit, not mine... simply on the basis that I know you don't have the faintest idea how to run a successful clan ladder. As for "you're the one who came to me, remember?", you're the one who posted a thread asking people to, remember?
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| Re: EA's Officially sponsored sites [message #219327 is a reply to message #219324] |
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| Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 00:25 |
Until you are privy to all the emails exchanged between EA, myself, and Strike Team, plus all the private chats between the BHS members, and and tape recordings of my conversations with Blazer, you'd better watch what lies you're spouting.
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Lies? What lies?
| Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 00:25 |
There's a thing called priorities, and for now, there is a gap in Silent Kane's time where he was able to finish his part of the ladder project.
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I'm sorry, but "there's a thing called priorities" is hardly an excuse for a ten-month stretch of negligence.
Where does Renguard 1.04 feature on the priorities? How long's it been since the bypass was released, a few months maybe?
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by the way, here's what I meant by the "earlier post", which you did not respond to.
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Funny, according to the logs that my monitoring software keeps, RenegadeForums and all other BHS sites have 99.81% uptime, leaving 11 hours, 6 minutes, and 53 seconds of downtime this entire year
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That's more downtime than our renegade league has had this year. I can't prove this with statistics, but I know it for certain simply because I've been consistently overseeing.
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Don't open your mouth and make accusations like that unless you're prepared to prove it.
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Rich coming from yourself, considering the amount of idiotic and baseless public accusations you've made about my website... that thread on XWIS would be an excellent example, as would be our recent conversation by e-mail about your ladder project. Another shining example, while we're on the subject of people messing with your forums, how about when you were absolutely dead sure that *I* hacked this site (and your proof was an irrelevant comment which you twisted and took out of context), and it turned out to be nothing whatsoever to do with me at all?
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| MaidenTy1 wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 00:30 |
About the e-mails, all I find necessary to say is that you still haven't answered this question:
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Now, I challenged you to explain exactly who you mean by this - you couldn't think of a response, but I'll happily give you another go. It can't be the admins in charge of Renegade, because we administrate the Renegade league in a mature and professional manner. It can't be any specific player because why would you need their involvement?
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How the hell can I come up with names when most of the members of that forum, from my limited observations, change their nicknames as often as they change their underwear? I can't answer this question. I can't give you specific names because I can't tell them apart. And I *DID* address this question of yours when I stated (NOTICE I AM REPEATING MYSELF AGAIN!) "I recognize that the people who have the most knowledge about clanning in Renegade are members of the cw.cc community. As a result, I had always intended to approach you guys for your input on this project."
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Considering how often you've publicly stated that clans and a clan league are a waste of time, etc.
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all the time...
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No, because I was talking about clan ladder.
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I fail to see where you're trying to go with this. Yes, I freely admit that I haven't been available at least once every 24 hours to respond to questions for a league that I don't run. Are you happy?
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You didn't reply to my earlier statement at all.
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Request? I offered assistance for your benefit, not mine... simply on the basis that I know you don't have the faintest idea how to run a successful clan ladder. As for "you're the one who came to me, remember?", you're the one
who posted a thread asking people to, remember?
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I don't have the faintest idea how to run a successful clan ladder? Based on what? A wild hare in your ass told you so?
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by the way, here's what I meant by the "earlier post", which you did not respond to.
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| Crimson wrote on Sun, 10 September 2006 05:01 |
Funny, according to the logs that my monitoring software keeps, RenegadeForums and all other BHS sites have 99.81% uptime, leaving 11 hours, 6 minutes, and 53 seconds of downtime this entire year
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That's more downtime than our renegade league has had this year. I can't prove this with statistics, but I know it for certain simply because I've been consistently overseeing.
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Am I supposed to respond to this? You admit you have no proof, only your word. Big deal.
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Don't open your mouth and make accusations like that unless you're prepared to prove it.
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Rich coming from yourself, considering the amount of idiotic and baseless public accusations you've made about my website... that thread on XWIS would be an excellent example, as would be our recent conversation by e-mail about your ladder project. Another shining example, while we're on the subject of people messing with your forums, how about when you were absolutely dead sure that *I* hacked this site (and your proof was an irrelevant comment which you twisted and took out of context), and it turned out to be nothing whatsoever to do with me at all?
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Ugh, seriously? I barely remember that. Why is it that you can remember obscure shit from months ago, but you can't remember posts I made within the last hour? I find that very strange. I don't know what you're trying to accomplish here, but if you want to doubt my dedication and devotion to this community, you go right ahead. My actions will speak louder than my words ever will. I wouldn't sit here and spend nearly $500 a month on servers used 95% for Renegade-related stuff if I didn't care, believe me. (That's probably more than EA is spending, tbh)
By the way, I did locate proof that I had these plans for the Renegade clan ladder way before you brought it up. There is a private forum on here for BHS and Strike Team members, so if you want, you can ask Olaf for confirmation on this that what I'm pasting to you is the 100% honest truth.
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We would like to get a "basic" ladder working again which just ranks based on the ladder points sent by the server at the end of each map, but afterwards we would like to get a more complex calculation (hopefully with input from the community) to use some of the other data collected towards the rankings.
Regarding clans: restoring something similar to the old functionality would be great except that I don't see why clan size should be limited to 20 people like it was with WOL. Clans also run a separate ladder and could use a more complex calculation.
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Wednesday, February 22nd, 2006... and when did you bring this all up? Wed, 07 June 2006 03:50... and you are proven a liar. Congratulations!
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| Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 03:50 |
How the hell can I come up with names when most of the members of that forum, from my limited observations, change their nicknames as often as they change their underwear? I can't answer this question. I can't give you specific names because I can't tell them apart.
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This is pathetic.
If you cannot come up with one figure of authority at the Clanwars.cc Renegade league (and there are only three to select from) who is unsuitable to manage a Renegade league, then it's time to admit you didn't have a leg to stand on in the first place.
And if your "clanwars.cc is not suitable to have something like this" angle is based on an individual player, rather than an official Clanwars.cc Renegade League representative, then by that sad attempt at reasoning, I could name one idiot who uses Renguard or posts here and conclude that every project of yours is equally unsuitable.
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No, because I was talking about clan ladder.
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I fail to see where you're trying to go with this. Yes, I freely admit that I haven't been available at least once every 24 hours to respond to questions for a league that I don't run. Are you happy?
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where I'm going with this will be explained towards the end of the post.
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Request? I offered assistance for your benefit, not mine... simply on the basis that I know you don't have the faintest idea how to run a successful clan ladder. As for "you're the one who came to me, remember?", you're the one
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I don't have the faintest idea how to run a successful clan ladder? Based on what? A wild hare in your ass told you so?
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Based on your complete lack of experience... but hey, prove me wrong.
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Don't open your mouth and make accusations like that unless you're prepared to prove it.
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Rich coming from yourself, considering the amount of idiotic and baseless public accusations you've made about my website... that thread on XWIS would be an excellent example, as would be our recent conversation by e-mail about your ladder project. Another shining example, while we're on the subject of people messing with your forums, how about when you were absolutely dead sure that *I* hacked this site (and your proof was an irrelevant comment which you twisted and took out of context), and it turned out to be nothing whatsoever to do with me at all?
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Ugh, seriously? I barely remember that.
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hmmm, and even when you could remember it you never retracted this false accusation (and it wasn't an "I think Spoony did it" deal, it was a "Spoony did it" deal)
| Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 03:50 |
I find that very strange. I don't know what you're trying to accomplish here, but if you want to doubt my dedication and devotion to this community, you go right ahead.
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Sheer hypocrisy. I don't go out of my way to criticise your projects. You, on the other hand, have been doing precisely that for as long as I can remember. Indeed, the only reason for my participation in this thread was to refute misinformation about my league... much like the ignorant bullshit you've been spouting on the same subject for some considerable time.
| Crimson wrote on Thu, 14 September 2006 03:50 |
Wednesday, February 22nd, 2006... and when did you bring this all up? Wed, 07 June 2006 03:50... and you are proven a liar. Congratulations!
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You fucking arrogant bitch. How does that prove me a "liar"? Last time I checked, the definition of "lying" is to make a statement you know to be untrue. Seeing as how I don't have access to this forum of which you speak, and therefore could not know of this conversation, then AT THE VERY MOST you've proven me to be mistaken. How fucking dare you label me a liar on that? Or is this another of your false accusations you won't have the spine to retract, like when you wrongly publicised the "fact" that I hacked these forums?
By the way, even if you started in February, what have you proven? The fact that by your it'll-be-ready-in-four-months estimate it takes you nearly a year to accomplish something? And yet you state on the record that Clanwars.cc is "not capable of doing something like this" when our system's been in place for ages, simply because there are one or two idiots on the forums LIKE THERE ARE IN EVERY SINGLE COMMUNITY OF THIS GAME? Hey, at least when there's a problem with my league that needs addressing, it doesn't take me a year to do so.
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Better idea: how about you do one of the following: justify your accusation, or withdraw it? I'll lay odds you can't do 'A' and you don't have the decency to do 'B'. Just like when you wrongly said I hacked the forums... Someone with a little more decency than you would've publicly said you were wrong, instead of locking the topic and hoping everyone would forget about it. I guess it would have been too much of a blow to your ego. You're never wrong... I'll be honest, I'm surprised you didn't delete the thread entirely.
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