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A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #217168] Sun, 03 September 2006 23:20 Go to next message
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Looking over the different types of Renegade games you can play... Snipers only, All Out War, Capture The Flag, How about this one: Protect The President. Sure it would probably have a lot of flaws, like a sniper to the head, but Im sure this can be overcome and be made into a great game. But I don't do editing YET.......

Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!

The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.

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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #217195 is a reply to message #217168] Mon, 04 September 2006 03:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Capture the mobius?
Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #217248 is a reply to message #217168] Mon, 04 September 2006 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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capture the locke/kane perhaps?
Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #217277 is a reply to message #217195] Mon, 04 September 2006 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nightma12 wrote on Mon, 04 September 2006 06:54

Capture the mobius?


wasn't that a gametype that was supposed to be implemented?
Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #217325 is a reply to message #217168] Mon, 04 September 2006 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It already was implemented, in the Sole Survivor mod.

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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #217369 is a reply to message #217325] Mon, 04 September 2006 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No man, the point of the game would be to kill either Locke, EDIT: Maybe Protected by AI Bots?, or Kane, OR a different somebody, Brittney Spears? Skins....

Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!

The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.

Americas Founding Fathers Must Be Turing In Their Graves, As Well As Every Revolutionary, Every Soldier That Has Fought For This Great Country.

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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #217370 is a reply to message #217195] Mon, 04 September 2006 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nightma12 wrote on Mon, 04 September 2006 05:54

Capture the mobius?


LOL, THAT WOULD BE A HARD ONE. I would try it. Althought you would somehow have to take his gun away. Big Grin


Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!

The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.

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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #217403 is a reply to message #217168] Mon, 04 September 2006 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jaspah wrote on Mon, 04 September 2006 11:59

Nightma12 wrote on Mon, 04 September 2006 06:54

Capture the mobius?


wasn't that a gametype that was supposed to be implemented?

Dover wrote on Mon, 04 September 2006 15:04

It already was implemented, in the Sole Survivor mod.


I think Jaspah was trying to confirm whether Capture the Mobius was one of the many gamemodes Westwood was considering before they were forced to abandon all but C&C mode. Anyway, Sole Survivor did manage to implement this mode, but as nobody ever seriously played that mod, it was forgotten. Here's a quick clip: Video
Note: Team Dri Reign deliberately made it so that a character's normal weapons (you could pick up more from crates) had infinite refills, so that's why you see my sniper rifle ammo reserves at 999.

thrash300 wrote on Mon, 04 September 2006 19:39

No man, the point of the game would be to kill either Locke, EDIT: Maybe Protected by AI Bots?, or Kane, OR a different somebody, Brittney Spears? Skins....


Black-Cell once had a Siege mode, where one team had to protect a satellite uplink device. I wasn't part of the community back then, but from what I heard, it was very glitchy, as well as unbalanced, and vloktboky abandoned it. He had posted the source of his version of CTM (not sure if it's the same as Team Dri Reign's) and of Siege, but the links to where they were hosted are now dead, though, so I have no idea if anyone still has them.


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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #217512 is a reply to message #217168] Tue, 05 September 2006 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Both Siege and CTM were abandoned due to public interest. Most of the people were screaming for AOW and CTF modifications and additions, and that forced the early prototypes onto the back burner. I wouldn't call Siege glitchy or unbalanced; it was merely a working experiment that, for the most part, did what was promised of it.

Had more people wanted to see it be worked on over building the SSCTF package, it would have probably evolved more into a "build your base and lay siege to the opponent's base" in a sense that both teams would have a static "target" entity (perhaps come sort of comm sat or other important-looking object) that, when destroyed, would cause you to lose. However, the difference would be that instead of being able to just buy any infantry/vehicle or have a steady income of credits, you would instead have to hunt down plugin objects that are placed throughout the map and install them in your base. These plugins would fail overtime and would need to be replaced. For example, installing a wrench plugin would enable the purchase of engineers/repair guns and/or auto repair on vehicles, or something along those lines. Installing a tiberium crystal would allow for a steady flow of credits. The more crystals installed, the more cash you get every second. Plugins to allow you to purchase certain vehicles or classes of vehicles, certainty infantry rolls and weapons, and special abilities to aid in either laying siege or defeating a siege placed on your own base, etc. What would result from that is proper siege warfare - not just blocking the team in to the vicinity around their base, but also blocking them off from vital resources needed to keep their base operating efficiently. Those plugins won't last forever and will break, and if you can't get out to the field, get a new one, and get it back to your base intact and installed, you're going to steadily lose abilities until you eventually have nothing more than an auto assault rifle. By default, the other team would surely win, which they should, for in this case, they have properly laid siege onto the enemy.

The only problem I can foresee in such a gameplay scenario would be space constraints, especially if you do such a thing server-side and are forced to use the stock maps. You would really have to be careful where you place those plugin spawners - not too close to each other, but still in key locations that could be besieged by a team on their own.

Oh, and I have no idea where you could find the source for the previously mentioned projects. I do not have those files any longer.
Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #217765 is a reply to message #217403] Wed, 06 September 2006 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So "Protect The President" woulden't work because of gliches, and such and such?

Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!

The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.

Americas Founding Fathers Must Be Turing In Their Graves, As Well As Every Revolutionary, Every Soldier That Has Fought For This Great Country.
Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #217778 is a reply to message #217765] Wed, 06 September 2006 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well that question is completely dependant on what you are looking for when you ask if it will work. Is it feasible? Sure. Is it programmable given the limitations present? To an extent. Will many play it? Nobody can answer that until there is something to play.

Make it and tweak it until it works the way you deem it must work.
Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #217779 is a reply to message #217778] Wed, 06 September 2006 18:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I need to learn how to do all of that.! Big Grin You woulden't happen to know any good tutorials for this?

Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!

The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.

Americas Founding Fathers Must Be Turing In Their Graves, As Well As Every Revolutionary, Every Soldier That Has Fought For This Great Country.

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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #218147 is a reply to message #217168] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #218315 is a reply to message #217168] Sat, 09 September 2006 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What the hell does CCM stand for anyway? I know it's part of the n00bstories server name, but I always thought it was "Crimson's Castle, Motherfucker".

[Edit:] I am a dumbass. I just realized what it stood for three seconds after I posted this. Please forgive me.


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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #218409 is a reply to message #217168] Sun, 10 September 2006 02:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #218423 is a reply to message #217168] Sun, 10 September 2006 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Command and Conquer Mode" I believe.

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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #218426 is a reply to message #217168] Sun, 10 September 2006 03:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oh. AOW and CCm are the same thing then...



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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #218428 is a reply to message #217168] Sun, 10 September 2006 03:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, I don't know where the heck "AOW" came from when the correct name is "Command and Conquer Mode" and results in a 3 letter acronym just the same.

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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #218496 is a reply to message #217168] Sun, 10 September 2006 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just like ctf only a moving target correct?

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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #218549 is a reply to message #217168] Sun, 10 September 2006 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm pretty sure AOW implies "All Out War", meaning that there aren't any disallowed units. Some servers like to disallow Ramjets or flying vechs or snipers, or whatever. Those servers can't claim to be AOW

Or I could be talking out my ass.


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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #218568 is a reply to message #218428] Sun, 10 September 2006 15:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you almighty one for correcting us simple folk in our grievous misconception.
Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #218582 is a reply to message #218549] Sun, 10 September 2006 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Sun, 10 September 2006 16:05

I'm pretty sure AOW implies "All Out War", meaning that there aren't any disallowed units. Some servers like to disallow Ramjets or flying vechs or snipers, or whatever. Those servers can't claim to be AOW

Or I could be talking out my ass.

technically speaking, a server would have to allow ob walk, base to base and whatnot to be truly "all out war".

Possibly even cheats.


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Re: A NEW TYPE OF RENEGADE! [message #218583 is a reply to message #217168] Sun, 10 September 2006 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Only if you are technically an idiot. You in general know exactly what people are referring to when they use that acronym to describe their server. Don't even try to turn it into anything else or push it out of their vocabulary. All Out War means everything fair goes. And if people want to use it, what the Hell concern is it of yours?
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To be a 'true' AOW server would you have to allow extras?

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vloktboky wrote on Sun, 10 September 2006 19:23

Only if you are technically an idiot. You in general know exactly what people are referring to when they use that acronym to describe their server. Don't even try to turn it into anything else or push it out of their vocabulary. All Out War means everything fair goes. And if people want to use it, what the Hell concern is it of yours?

Who, may I ask, is the official judge of what is "fair"?


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