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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218154 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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macs are probably the best type of pc's you can grab

you can have like shitty specs and still have excellent performance on it, too bad you cant run any games on it Huh
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218155 is a reply to message #218151] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Merovingian wrote on Sat, 09 September 2006 01:12

help-linux wrote on Sat, 09 September 2006 01:07

icedog90 wrote on Sat, 09 September 2006 00:52

Merovingian wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 15:54

Windows is fine, there's really nothing wrong with it and if you can't get mulitple programs running, upgrade the RAM not the CPU.

i usually have about 6 programs running constantly all the time for months on end and i've had no problems what-so-ever.

The only problems i've had is:
virus
and......
erm......
That's about it.



icedog90 wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 14:56

People who think Windows is a good operating system are nubcakes. You obviously have never used Linux before (especially with Xgl).


And the problems I have with Linux are...
erm...
umm...
nothing.



Owned!

what i don't like is people that say they are used to windows and don't want to switch. well the version i am using (Suse) is very much like windows (expt all the benefits of the linux kernel)




Well you can go with Linux, i'm going with Windows myself since it can use and run all of the applications i use today. If you don't properly know how to use Windows, why use it?

Also, in my defence, i actually admitted i have never, ever used a Linux machine in my life, and have only just got to grips with Mac OSX.


lol, i wasn't saying that in a sarcastic way. it was funny, i couldn't resist. i have seen mac os everywhere but i have never got round to trying it. is it free?
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218156 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218157 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mac's are only built and designed with their counterpart machines. They make their own computers as well as make the software but Mac's are mainly used for media like video editing and music editing and stuff.

Our school just got a PowerMac G5 for the studio and it's absolutly great.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218159 is a reply to message #218156] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90 wrote on Sat, 09 September 2006 01:17

I know how to use Windows just fine.


That post was directed towards the last person that was in the quote. Sorry if i mislead you.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218160 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I want to get a mac so badly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hardly play games these days anyway, so when i wont play games, imma go on my mac Big Ups those r only dreams tho lol
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218162 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Icedog, you might know this. Does 3DSMax work on Macs? our collage is thinking about buying it.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218164 is a reply to message #218162] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Merovingian wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 17:21

Icedog, you might know this. Does 3DSMax work on Macs? our collage is thinking about buying it.



Unfortunately, no.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218165 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Damn!

Gona have to install Windows to a partition then and boot from that.

See, something Windows can do that others can't.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218166 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it's not something Windows can do, it's the company making the program run on a certain OS. That has nothing to do with the OS itself.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218167 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just FYI, the Intel Macs do have Boot Camp that allows you to run Windows (and any games) natively.

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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218168 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How does that work?
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218170 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Macs now use Intel chips and can function just like any other PC if you so desire.

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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218196 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 23:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On MacOS: It's great, I run a quad-boot on my PC with XP, Vista, Ubuntu and MacOSX 10.4.6
That's right, you can run MacOS on pretty much ANY computer now! Just take a look at www.osx86project.org, it has guides and links to all you need to run MacOS on your normal computer (provided you have MacOS on a DVD, of course Tell Me)

On Linux: It's great..etc.
However, all the crapola about dependancies really does annoy me, if I want to install a program on Linux there's a good chance I'll either have to "apt-get install" the dependancies, or, because that's often not worked, find them manually on the internet and compile/install them. Another thing that annoys me is Xgl/Compiz. I have to admit, the effects are pretty cool, but only if you have a decent graphics card that someone can be bothered to make Linux drivers for, and besides, I hate anything that doesn't have Antialiasing nowadays. Razz Oh, and it's far from finished, and plays Videos and other graphicky things rubbishly.

On Windows: I don't see why everyone hates it so much! I have a Sempron64 3400+ with 512Mb RAM and I've probably had more crashes on Ubuntu/MacOS than on Windows. I've never had a single virus/spyware (Of course, that depends on the websites one visits!) and it hardly ever seems slow or sluggy without me accidentally putting an infinite loop in a script or something.

All in all, I think Ubuntu and MacOS both have great potential, as does Vista, but, at the moment, there simply isn't enough worldwide support or programs to make them a completely viable solution for me.
Therefore, I'll stick with what I got now. Big Grin

Although...
Has anyone actually got Renegade/RenGuard/WOL working under Cedega? I don't like Cedega (Crap license, Open Source all the way!) but I do use it. Rocked Over
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218198 is a reply to message #218052] Sat, 09 September 2006 00:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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help-linux wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 14:52

dead6re wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 19:38

I'm running Windows fine, currently my uptime is 5 weeks, 3 hours. I'm sure servers are up for longer, but as this is my home pc (And it isn't very good, still awaiting my new to arrive), I think its doing well.


as i said in my post i could bet you don't push it as much as i do, i normally have:renegadeserver, renegade+rengaurd, VC++, HLBot, 2 or 3 windows for browsing various files running. sometimes the window bar(blue bar at bottom) is so full i dont dont know what is running and what isn't i try to close programs but i need them lol.


Lets see what programs...

- IDA x2 (One for RenegadeFDS on windows, one for Linux)
- mIRC x2( I should use just one but I don't)
- RenegadeServer
- RenGuard + Renegade
- Visual Studio

And my processor is only 2.40GHz


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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218207 is a reply to message #218196] Sat, 09 September 2006 01:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jonty wrote on Sat, 09 September 2006 08:58

On MacOS: It's great, I run a quad-boot on my PC with XP, Vista, Ubuntu and MacOSX 10.4.6
That's right, you can run MacOS on pretty much ANY computer now! Just take a look at www.osx86project.org, it has guides and links to all you need to run MacOS on your normal computer (provided you have MacOS on a DVD, of course Tell Me)

On Linux: It's great..etc.
However, all the crapola about dependancies really does annoy me, if I want to install a program on Linux there's a good chance I'll either have to "apt-get install" the dependancies, or, because that's often not worked, find them manually on the internet and compile/install them. Another thing that annoys me is Xgl/Compiz. I have to admit, the effects are pretty cool, but only if you have a decent graphics card that someone can be bothered to make Linux drivers for, and besides, I hate anything that doesn't have Antialiasing nowadays. Razz Oh, and it's far from finished, and plays Videos and other graphicky things rubbishly.

On Windows: I don't see why everyone hates it so much! I have a Sempron64 3400+ with 512Mb RAM and I've probably had more crashes on Ubuntu/MacOS than on Windows. I've never had a single virus/spyware (Of course, that depends on the websites one visits!) and it hardly ever seems slow or sluggy without me accidentally putting an infinite loop in a script or something.

All in all, I think Ubuntu and MacOS both have great potential, as does Vista, but, at the moment, there simply isn't enough worldwide support or programs to make them a completely viable solution for me.
Therefore, I'll stick with what I got now. Big Grin

Although...
Has anyone actually got Renegade/RenGuard/WOL working under Cedega? I don't like Cedega (Crap license, Open Source all the way!) but I do use it. Rocked Over



i got renegade working on cedega with WOL. unfortunately, i couldnt install RG, as the way cedega installs programs is it creates a new virtual c: drive for all the games instead of just installing them to the same virtual drive.


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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218213 is a reply to message #218160] Sat, 09 September 2006 01:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Teh-Pwnerer wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 20:19

I want to get a mac so badly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hardly play games these days anyway, so when i wont play games, imma go on my mac Big Ups those r only dreams tho lol

you do know that there is software for mac called boot camp, you can run pretty much any windows/linux software in it, and since i know you can afford it, you may as well do that Razz
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
also, there are some games you can play on mac. WoW, I think UT as well, there are many more, just don't remember them.

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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218219 is a reply to message #218196] Sat, 09 September 2006 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jonty wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 23:58

On MacOS: It's great, I run a quad-boot on my PC with XP, Vista, Ubuntu and MacOSX 10.4.6
That's right, you can run MacOS on pretty much ANY computer now! Just take a look at www.osx86project.org, it has guides and links to all you need to run MacOS on your normal computer (provided you have MacOS on a DVD, of course Tell Me)

On Linux: It's great..etc.
However, all the crapola about dependancies really does annoy me, if I want to install a program on Linux there's a good chance I'll either have to "apt-get install" the dependancies, or, because that's often not worked, find them manually on the internet and compile/install them. Another thing that annoys me is Xgl/Compiz. I have to admit, the effects are pretty cool, but only if you have a decent graphics card that someone can be bothered to make Linux drivers for, and besides, I hate anything that doesn't have Antialiasing nowadays. Razz Oh, and it's far from finished, and plays Videos and other graphicky things rubbishly.

On Windows: I don't see why everyone hates it so much! I have a Sempron64 3400+ with 512Mb RAM and I've probably had more crashes on Ubuntu/MacOS than on Windows. I've never had a single virus/spyware (Of course, that depends on the websites one visits!) and it hardly ever seems slow or sluggy without me accidentally putting an infinite loop in a script or something.

All in all, I think Ubuntu and MacOS both have great potential, as does Vista, but, at the moment, there simply isn't enough worldwide support or programs to make them a completely viable solution for me.
Therefore, I'll stick with what I got now. Big Grin

Although...
Has anyone actually got Renegade/RenGuard/WOL working under Cedega? I don't like Cedega (Crap license, Open Source all the way!) but I do use it. Rocked Over


If ubuntu messes up on you, it's because you set it up wrong.

I have Xgl and I can run MULTIPLE H.264 videos at decent resolutions and overlap them, make them transparent, and do all kinds of other stuff with them and they don't lag. In Windows, ONE H.264 video that is a pretty decent resolution will lag a whole lot for me. There's nothing more to say here.

I don't see what's wrong with apt-get install. It works perfectly fine for me. I think it's nice because I can easily find a free program with a package manager, instead of having to search Google (and most likely find a trial).
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218223 is a reply to message #218219] Sat, 09 September 2006 01:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90 wrote on Sat, 09 September 2006 09:33

I have Xgl and I can run MULTIPLE H.264 videos at decent resolutions and overlap them, make them transparent, and do all kinds of other stuff with them and they don't lag. In Windows, ONE H.264 video that is a pretty decent resolution will lag a whole lot for me. There's nothing more to say here.


Question is, do I want to run multiple overlapped transparent H.234 videos? Wink

EDIT: Nevertheless, I'm interested. Do you have an nVidia card? I have a GeForce 6200, I can run a HD video *fairly* fine in XP, but in Xgl I can't seem to find a working video output thingy. Then again, I haven't tried for a few months now, there's probably been a few thousand updates. Tell Me

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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218227 is a reply to message #218048] Sat, 09 September 2006 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You mean H.264. H.264 is probably the best video compressing codec out there right now and it is very powerful. It uses a crapload of CPU to decode.

I have a Geforce 6800. I used to have problems getting video to work in Xgl/compiz, but after a new version of Ubuntu it randomly seemed to work fine. Remember though, Xgl is totally new and it's not even in beta.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218254 is a reply to message #218048] Sat, 09 September 2006 04:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218274 is a reply to message #218227] Sat, 09 September 2006 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90 wrote on Sat, 09 September 2006 09:55

You mean H.264. H.264 is probably the best video compressing codec out there right now and it is very powerful. It uses a crapload of CPU to decode.
Yes, It'll take me quite a long time to get that right. Dont Get It

Anyways, I'm installing Xgl and compiz now. Big Grin Hopefuly, the videos will work better on Dapper than they did on Breezy...

On Cedega: Every time I try to install Renegade, I set everything up but when the installer's actually supposed to start nothing seems to happen. Do I have to try and use that non-graphical installer someone made, or is my computer b0rked? Tell Me
Also, is everyone here using KDE, or are there some GNOME users other than me? Satisfied

EDIT: OK, I changed some things, and now I can get as far as installing the game. However, when it actally starts copying the files, it says that "TDBERR" is copying and locks up before the little rotating soldier appears, so I still can't finish the install. Sad

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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218308 is a reply to message #218048] Sat, 09 September 2006 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use Gnome.

just so you know, you can't count on getting Renegade to work in Cedega if you have Xgl/compiz. Because right now direct rendering is not supported in Xgl. But if the nVIDIA drivers for Xorg 7.1 EVER COME OUT, then that will change. I can't even believe ATi released Linux drivers for Xorg 7.1 before nVIDIA.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218320 is a reply to message #218048] Sat, 09 September 2006 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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renegade does work in cedega, but only after i installed the nvidia drivers
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218323 is a reply to message #218048] Sat, 09 September 2006 15:40 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Yeah but I said not with Xgl/compiz.
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