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i am so P***ed off with windows that i could lose all the work i currntly have just to get it off with my computer.
reason? i couldn't list there is so many things wrong with the windows generation.

first off windows is very unstable and crashes often, poeple can say this never happens but that is because they don't push like i do.

to stop it crashing at the moment i have overclocked the proccessor to the max and it over heats regulary. i have enough spyware to give tell the whole us when i go to the toilet.

i am going to install suse linux 9.1(i know it is a earlier version but i like it). i was wondering if there is a way to get rengaurd working with cedega. i was wondering if i run cedega twice once to run Game.exe and the second to run Game2.exe?

cedega runs renegade very well.

does anybody have problems with windows?
EG: you have renegade running in the background with rengaurd, renegade server is up and then level edit wont run or windows doesn't even seem to try and load it or it brings up a white window?

in suse linux if anything like that happens like the white screen it starts a crash handler that stops it *IMMEDIETLY* not it ten minits or an hour.

also the multitasking on suse linux is incredible, nothing windows could match. although i need windows for 3dsmax i can use Vmware which is good and windows seems to be more stable running in it.

ill post a screenshot of it later when i have everything installed.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218049 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm running Windows fine, currently my uptime is 5 weeks, 3 hours. I'm sure servers are up for longer, but as this is my home pc (And it isn't very good, still awaiting my new to arrive), I think its doing well.

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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218050 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nice.
would you be able to install it on my pc?(or at least lend me the disk Razz)

i used to run linux(suse 9.1). the only reason i switched back to windows is cos i put a new motherboard in my pc, and had to reinstall an os. i didnt have a linux disk knocking around, but found a windows one.


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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218052 is a reply to message #218049] Fri, 08 September 2006 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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dead6re wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 19:38

I'm running Windows fine, currently my uptime is 5 weeks, 3 hours. I'm sure servers are up for longer, but as this is my home pc (And it isn't very good, still awaiting my new to arrive), I think its doing well.


as i said in my post i could bet you don't push it as much as i do, i normally have:renegadeserver, renegade+rengaurd, VC++, HLBot, 2 or 3 windows for browsing various files running. sometimes the window bar(blue bar at bottom) is so full i dont dont know what is running and what isn't i try to close programs but i need them lol.

i better make this short, the processor alarm is going off.

also thing i like about linux is i will let you try to force it to do somthing EG: you want to write a CD and there is no cd in the drive. it prompts you and there is a option to force and if you click it, it will send the data to the CD drive to burn.

i am still in the process of backing up so i wil have it installed in about 3 hours.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218056 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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help-linux wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 12:35

i am so P***ed off with windows that i could lose all the work i currntly have just to get it off with my computer.
reason? i couldn't list there is so many things wrong with the windows generation.

first off windows is very unstable and crashes often, poeple can say this never happens but that is because they don't push like i do.

to stop it crashing at the moment i have overclocked the proccessor to the max and it over heats regulary. i have enough spyware to give tell the whole us when i go to the toilet.

i am going to install suse linux 9.1(i know it is a earlier version but i like it). i was wondering if there is a way to get rengaurd working with cedega. i was wondering if i run cedega twice once to run Game.exe and the second to run Game2.exe?

cedega runs renegade very well.

does anybody have problems with windows?
EG: you have renegade running in the background with rengaurd, renegade server is up and then level edit wont run or windows doesn't even seem to try and load it or it brings up a white window?

in suse linux if anything like that happens like the white screen it starts a crash handler that stops it *IMMEDIETLY* not it ten minits or an hour.

also the multitasking on suse linux is incredible, nothing windows could match. although i need windows for 3dsmax i can use Vmware which is good and windows seems to be more stable running in it.

ill post a screenshot of it later when i have everything installed.


I've been running Windows for years and have not had any "unknown problems". All the problems I have had with my computer were caused by me, and I know it. I have never had problems with Windows crashing, nor running slowly.

On the other hand, I don't see how you can possibly think overclocking your central processing unit is going to help.

And if you have spyware/viruses and other things, you really need to be more careful at what you browse on the internet, or stop looking at all that pr0n. Listen


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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218059 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Heh, we all have our moments with it I'd guess. I haven't had many problems in a long time, apart from Nvidia drivers causing memory dumps every now and then...and I do push it quite a lot.

Anyway, in the end, it's not like the average gamer has much of a choice. That's what it always falls down to. I have about 30 games on my shelf (all legal retail versions by the way), and I might get maybe 30%-60% of them running on other operating systems with a lot of tweaking. Yes, there are emulators, and no, they're not stable. They also need a lot of tweaking to get the games working. In Windows, I install the game, and it just works. Expect this to be an even bigger "problem" when MS comes up with Direct X 10 (Vista only). I do have Ubuntu on my oldest PC, and I like it, but I don't like the idea of spending countless hours to figure out how to play a game.


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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218060 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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like dan said, if you run windows through vmware, windows has major problems, all you have to do is delete the file it runs off and reinstall it. or, use cedega(it costs money - but i already have subscribed Razz)

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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218061 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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overclocking was need because windows coulnt run all those programs well as it needs half for its core.


lol, i once installed windows. set it up so it was on the desktop, i went for my tea. 2 hours later(somthing come up) it would only boot into safe mode.

what do you think of that? also that stupid thing microsoft come up with caled activeX controls just calls for viruses and spyware.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218062 is a reply to message #218059] Fri, 08 September 2006 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Scythar wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 20:11


Anyway, in the end, it's not like the average gamer has much of a choice. That's what it always falls down to. I have about 30 games on my shelf (all legal retail versions by the way), and I might get maybe 30%-60% of them running on other operating systems with a lot of tweaking. Yes, there are emulators, and no, they're not stable. They also need a lot of tweaking to get the games working. In Windows, I install the game, and it just works. Expect this to be an even bigger "problem" when MS comes up with Direct X 10 (Vista only). I do have Ubuntu on my oldest PC, and I like it, but I don't like the idea of spending countless hours to figure out how to play a game.


as much as i hate windows i second that.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218063 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i loved linux when i ran it - i didnt even need to worry about viruses, and it ran so quick! since then i have improved my computer with new motherboard and put an AMD processor in it(alright, dan put them in Razz)and it run amazingly better in linux than with windows.

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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218064 is a reply to message #218063] Fri, 08 September 2006 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the17doctor wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 20:18

i loved linux when i ran it - i didnt even need to worry about viruses, and it ran so quick! since then i have improved my computer with new motherboard and put an AMD processor in it(alright, dan put them in Razz)and it run amazingly better in linux than with windows.



it runs very fast on my computer as well, as it doen't have to waste CPU power loading grafix not to mention the ram it uses.

i hope vista doesn't sell as that will need a powerfull computer run, if you had a duel core processor it would just be as fast as if it was on windows xp with a 333MHz intel processor.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218065 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the only problem i have with MS is blocking P2P ports....
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218067 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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help-linux wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 14:35

first off windows is very unstable and crashes often, poeple can say this never happens but that is because they don't push like i do.

to stop it crashing at the moment i have overclocked the proccessor to the max and it over heats regulary. i have enough spyware to give tell the whole us when i go to the toilet.


well that's really smart




learn how to use windows, mine is fine

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Jaspah wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 20:42

help-linux wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 14:35

first off windows is very unstable and crashes often, poeple can say this never happens but that is because they don't push like i do.

to stop it crashing at the moment i have overclocked the proccessor to the max and it over heats regulary. i have enough spyware to give tell the whole us when i go to the toilet.


well that's really smart




learn how to use windows, mine is fine


i know how to use windows i have had it (on and off) for 10 years.

but linux truly rules over it
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218078 is a reply to message #218077] Fri, 08 September 2006 13:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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help-linux wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 16:08

Jaspah wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 20:42

help-linux wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 14:35

first off windows is very unstable and crashes often, poeple can say this never happens but that is because they don't push like i do.

to stop it crashing at the moment i have overclocked the proccessor to the max and it over heats regulary. i have enough spyware to give tell the whole us when i go to the toilet.


well that's really smart




learn how to use windows, mine is fine


i know how to use windows i have had it (on and off) for 10 years.

but linux truly rules over it


You were only 5. How can a 5 year old judge an operating system?


whoa.
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218079 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the only problem i can find with linux is it's lack of programs - which isnt too bad, and it's not exactly a bug, it's just people who create programs prefer to write ones for windows.

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Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218081 is a reply to message #218078] Fri, 08 September 2006 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430 wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 21:12

help-linux wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 16:08

Jaspah wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 20:42

help-linux wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 14:35

first off windows is very unstable and crashes often, poeple can say this never happens but that is because they don't push like i do.

to stop it crashing at the moment i have overclocked the proccessor to the max and it over heats regulary. i have enough spyware to give tell the whole us when i go to the toilet.


well that's really smart




learn how to use windows, mine is fine


i know how to use windows i have had it (on and off) for 10 years.

but linux truly rules over it


You were only 5. How can a 5 year old judge an operating system?


i knew my way around windows 98 then, i could even install it
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Windows has made a habit out of easy installs. It's nothing more than point, click, and maybe type in your name, organization, and how to identify your computer to a network.

whoa.
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same with the suse generation
Re: Windows/Microsoft has pulled the last straw!!! [message #218087 is a reply to message #218048] Fri, 08 September 2006 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Windows is perfectly fine however you use it, and any Spyware that infects it is 99.9% the user's fault.
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help-linux wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 16:42

same with the suse generation

What's your point? My point is that you can't judge an Operating System when you're that young regardless if you know how to install it.


whoa.
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I agree with egg. Why do you run all those anyway? Is it necissary? If it weren't for Windows you would have porbably not got into computers. The only windows i've had problem with was on my old comp with Windows Me- but even then i lived through it for 4/5 years.

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j_ball430 wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 16:08

help-linux wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 16:42

same with the suse generation

What's your point? My point is that you can't judge an Operating System when you're that young regardless if you know how to install it.




explain your point a bit more


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before we turn this into flame wars because everybody is entitled to an opinion and i respect 99% of the forums members.

i have just installed it took 15 minits. and it works perfectly and everything comes up strate away.



just so you know, i didn't judge windows when i was younger because i didn't use it like then. but i remeber what it was like and i like windows 98 better than all of the windows generations.

i will post a picture of renegade when i get Cedega installed.

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help-linux wrote on Sat, 09 September 2006 06:35

first off windows is very unstable and crashes often, poeple can say this never happens but that is because they don't push like i do.

I'd say i've pushed both XP and 2000 pretty hard and they have coped very well. Anything before them though is flakey.

help-linux wrote on Sat, 09 September 2006 06:35

to stop it crashing at the moment i have overclocked the proccessor to the max and it over heats regulary. i have enough spyware to give tell the whole us when i go to the toilet.

I'm sure there's a more sensible fix than OCing, and as for spyware you need tools to protect your PC, it comes with the territory.

help-linux wrote on Sat, 09 September 2006 06:35


does anybody have problems with windows?
EG: you have renegade running in the background with rengaurd, renegade server is up and then level edit wont run or windows doesn't even seem to try and load it or it brings up a white window?

Nope, never had anything like that.

Some people just don't like Windows, just like I'm not a big *nix fan, but I use netBSD at Uni and this PC has been dual booted with Mandrake and SuSE and Ubuntu. I still go back to Windows because it's what im confortable with.


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