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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217746 is a reply to message #217656] |
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Im done with all of this, I told fl00d3d keep the 30 dollars, theres way to much drama involved with all this. Im trying to keep my nose clean, and run my server, and cant do it by being involved with all of this.
I have shut my server down on the box teh-pwnerer, you were paid for the server running on the a000000ic name, so I expect it to stay online.
I dont wanna be involved in whatever is going on with all of this.
There was talk of stealing of serials by greg, I was told that by numerous people, its a battle over an a000 name, and its not worth all this trouble, people stealing others website templates and everything else.
Fl00d3d was told to keep the money, that where I stand on this situation, I told teh-pwnerer Id idnt like the other people he was involved with, such a KrY aka Tyler Riveria.
I do know that fl00d3d left greg, cuz I knew it before Greg did. Ive learned through all the crap ive been through, its a game, and it isnt worth all this trouble, Ive made my mistakes, and I deal with my rep everyday. But greg, my advice is to drop the whole thing, let it go, and dont bury yourself in it.
Greg wether your server was attacked or not, I dont know, but UDP floods arent somethign to throw around with accusations, unless you know who did it. Been there done that. Not a pretty sight.
Let it go, and start fresh. Thats my take on the whole situation.
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217764 is a reply to message #217656] |
Wed, 06 September 2006 18:06 |
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Apology accepted...just keep me out of it, as I didn't do anything to anyone...besides stand up for what is right. I know what I've seen and I know what I think of the situation...
Note to person before me making comments who has nothing to do with it: can't stand the heat? get out of the kitchen.
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217766 is a reply to message #217656] |
Wed, 06 September 2006 18:19 |
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Greg might have apologized to you, but he still hasn't apologized to me for creating this ridiculous thread and working up a lot of people.
Greg: Don't try to resolve my issues with anyone else - especially on these forums. I'm big enough of a man to hold my own weight and I don't need your help. jball and I had a miscommunication and it has been fixed. And don't try to run from this thread now that the truth has been put on the table and you look like a complete ass. I think that is what Crimson was laughing about.
Jball: My paypal has three checking accounts and one credit card bound to the account - so I know what you're talking about. But I do not wire money back and forth from my checking accounts ... I simply use the PayPal debit card which takes the funds directly from the PayPal account. Much more convenient for keeping track of business expenses (especially since the checking accounts are personal). And don't listen to Greg and his advice about PayPal. If he was so pro with it he would have an account that was older than 2 months, confirmed by adding at least one verifiable proof of identity, and would have been able to manage the business finances from the get go. Instead he has an unverified account and a security flag by PayPal (that I still don't know what it's for).
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I hope you're not including anyone but Greg in that inclusive statement. There is a valid discussion/debate going on here and plenty of intelligent inputs ... so for you to jump in out of nowhere like that is a bit ignorant. The thread was started by "Greg" and I think he's just ended it by making of fool of himself.
Crimson, please keep this thread open until he decides to come clean about everything. Otherwise I'll just continue to throw evidence and support from others into his face until he shuts up. He started this thread, he can end it one way or another. The choice is his. But I don't want my name being ruined because some 15? year old kid decides to lie.
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217770 is a reply to message #217766] |
Wed, 06 September 2006 18:31 |
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| fl00d3d wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 21:19 |
Jball: My paypal has three checking accounts and one credit card bound to the account - so I know what you're talking about. But I do not wire money back and forth from my checking accounts ... I simply use the PayPal debit card which takes the funds directly from the PayPal account. Much more convenient for keeping track of business expenses (especially since the checking accounts are personal). And don't listen to Greg and his advice about PayPal. If he was so pro with it he would have an account that was older than 2 months, confirmed by adding at least one verifiable proof of identity, and would have been able to manage the business finances from the get go. Instead he has an unverified account and a security flag by PayPal (that I still don't know what it's for).
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If I go to pay for something via PayPal and don't have the money in the account (as usually is the case), it does an instant transfer, taking it out of my bank account (and/or credit card). Wouldn't this be the case on the PayPal account with the debit card? If you make a purchase and don't have enough in the PayPal account, it takes the money out of said banking/checking account? If so, I bring up the point about allowing a 15 year old with that money, or is that what the restrictions included?
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217781 is a reply to message #217656] |
Wed, 06 September 2006 19:07 |
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Not only was he restricted to only requesting money to be added to the account (ie. requesting payments from customers) but the checking accounts were old and closed. They were verified in the past and PayPal knows no different - so he couldnt possibly get money out of them.
Not to mention, I dont think bank account -> paypal transfers are instant. I believe they take 2-3 business days. Paypal -> PayPal is instant ... and so is using a PayPal debit card on the internet (deducts from your paypal account balance).
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217790 is a reply to message #217656] |
Wed, 06 September 2006 19:33 |
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I'd prefer no tie to my accounts anyway, lol. That way if I do go over for something it doesn't affect my "real" finances. I use PayPal as a sort of buffer for my business.
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217802 is a reply to message #217801] |
Wed, 06 September 2006 21:38 |
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| Crimson wrote on Thu, 07 September 2006 00:32 |
Paypal debit cards do not automatically pull from a linked account unless you specifically set one as "backup funding" for the debit card.
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Ah. I wondered if that would be the case or not.
whoa.
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217822 is a reply to message #217656] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 04:18 |
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Are you stupid? I never accused you of attacking my servers. 
And, I have NOT posted lies. Please specify which of my statements are supposivly *lies*
When we lost the A00000004 login, I simply stated "Yeah, Kamuix gave me his serial, ROFL." Then you said "?, change the pw then..." And as it has been mentioned before on my part, if I had any serial to any login, and they would see somone else, they would report it, find me using it, and ban me for life. I see there is no point in hell why I would *want* to do it, wouldn't anyone want to do it AND get away with it? Sure. But that isn't how things are run here.
And once again, I never accused you of attacking my server.
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217844 is a reply to message #217656] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 07:45 |
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Let's address the post that started this since your're so dodgy:
| Teh-Pwnerer wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 15:02 |
Alright, #1 is when fl00d3d is telling people about "my plan to hijack all serials and get all the xwis nicks" As much as I would like to do that, I would obviously be FUCKED and screwed out of the renegade community really badly.  And I love playing renegade, so really, I would recieve no benefit at ALL from this. I also have a screenshot prooving that Kamuix provided a *fake* serial to his A00000004 login (which I now have because I bought Kamuix a box for it.)
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Your plan was to take control over the serial. You're denying it. WTF-ever. You won't be able to, so at this point I don't even care about it anymore.
| Teh-Pwnerer wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 15:02 |
And now, Nightma and his buddies are UPD Flooding my servers.
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Proof? You've totally dodged this topic. No one is attacking any of your servers. Admit that you just decided to throw it in here to spice up your argument.
| Teh-Pwnerer wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 15:02 |
So they are really immature for doing this. I have no intent of getting any of the logins anyway, because Renegade doesn't support much to businesses when in means of finicial wise.
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That's the only thing that "Frontlines-Hosting" (copied from Frontlines-Gaming) sells.
| Teh-Pwnerer wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 15:02 |
#2 - I do realize I have a *bad* name in the renegade community, because you all trust "Nightma12" and "fl00d3d", who have the power to kick anyone in the arse with a lie that everyone would believe from this. I am SICK and TIRED of all this,
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lol? Maybe if you weren't stealing eveyrone identities, websites, and business being a little prick people would care what comes out of your mouth!
| Teh-Pwnerer wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 15:02 |
I even has proof of caveman telling me he's going to try to hack my servers.
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Again ... proof?
| Teh-Pwnerer wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 15:02 |
The point here is, that we should do something about "Nightma" and his little squad of kiddie friends, who once they get stabbed in the back, they have to randomly "UPD Flood" servers and such, I have people joining my servers saying "wow, if I ran a server this gay, I would shoot myself in the head" and this is getting on my nervs.
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I know from previously working with you that you just switched to new servers. Perhaps your change of hardware, network, and/or OS settings are to blame for your servers' performance?
| Teh-Pwnerer wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 15:02 |
#3 - I left FL00D3D he did not leave ME. I left him because he had a $122+ debt in his paypal account and then he wanted me to send him $20 or something for FOOD unless he would starve, I would have no problem giving him $20 for food, but my paypal was fucked, and at the time, I did not have $122 to pay off his gay debts.
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I left you pal. And I proved that in my previous post. Not to mention I have witnesses. And the financial situation was explained as well. But nice try at stooping low for an easy kill: didn't work!
| Teh-Pwnerer wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 15:02 |
#4 Fl00ded is accusing me of stealing his "Tsunami-Alliance" Community ideas. Personally, I wouldn't give a rats ass if he did something so *cool* to his community, it would bring like 9999999999999999999 people to it. Look at his community @ www.tsunami-alliance.com and look at mine www.rencorner.net see the difference? His community even has a "bible" that they stand by. My community? It fucking runs on its own.
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That last sentence doesn't make much sense, but you do have something to gain by knowing what I told you about how my system works. And you did take the forums that *I* created on RenCorner that forwarded to my forums and alter them in such a way that they were regular forums rather than links to mine - leaving an exact copy of my forums on your site. Which I removed before I left.
| Teh-Pwnerer wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 15:02 |
#5 Server Attacks - ever since I got back a00000004 from Kamuix, its either Nightma or his friends attacking my servers, and I am getting SICK AND FUCKING TIRED of the stupid UPD Flooding, every 5 minutes, a dude with an insulting nick says something about my server, then the server crashes, WTF...
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You already mentioned this - but like I said above, where is your proof? You've lied about so many other things, why wouldn't you lie about this too?
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[Edit] Caveman explained to me that he went on my "Ren Server" and not my server's RDP. Hehe. Sry for that one
Post your comments / complaints / suggestions on this topic. Thanks.
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Wow, don't you feel dumb? Are you getting the point, yet?
TOPIC: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear
*Yes, I think we did clear up your bullshit. Crimson feel free to lock at your discretion.
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217847 is a reply to message #217715] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 07:56 |
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| fl00d3d wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 23:09 |
I apologize for my fashionably late entry into this discussion. I promised a lot of people I would be up and about at 12 noon my time, and here I am about 5hrs late.  Apparently there has been a huge discussion about me while I was gone so I will defend all my point here.
1- There is a thread about this in the server owners discussion for anyone interested in reading some of the details which I will repeat here.
2- "Teh-pwnerer" (stolen) aka. "Iccytouch" (stolen) aka. "Animosity" (stolen) has a habit -as Crimson has so kindly pointed out to support me- of stealing other people's ideas.
3- When I first started talking with this guy (herein referred to by his first name 'Greg'), he told me that he was 23 years old. I am 25. It wasn't until after the merger was complete that he admitted to me that he was 15 (which I have recently learned from his friend/new Co-owner of RenCorner that he is younger than that). At that point I was hesitant, but since he admitted it to me I decided to give him another chance. Being so young I inquired about how he ran his "business" and even offered to send legal paperwork to his parents.
4- He claims that he had no interest in taking Kamuix's serials but he does. Since this issue has been addressed (server owners thread) I do not feel the need to discuss it any further.
5- He suggests that I am somehow associated with the UDP flooding of his server without considering the fact I was one of the people that was openly discussing possible ways of helping server owners fix the problem months ago. Your accusation is about as retarded as people saying BHS makes cheats.
6- I left you. And I have the MSN conversation and two witnesses to prove it (Justin Schultz was on MSN before I left, during my message to you on MSN, and after - and I was talking to him the whole time I was doing it. My fiancee who lives with me was also awake and next to me on her computer when I was going through all of this and she was witness to it.) I left almost 12 hours before you even KNEW I was going to leave. YOu have some balls to lie about that.
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9/1/2006 11:06:50 PM fl00d3d (F) Teh-Pwnerer why are the passwords changed
9/1/2006 11:09:14 PM fl00d3d (F) Teh-Pwnerer I'm *VERY* irritated with you right now. You changed the passwords and locked me and Amunra out intentionally. If I can't get in by midnight you'll be working alone tomorrow. This is straight up BULLSHIT
9/1/2006 11:15:04 PM fl00d3d (F) Teh-Pwnerer Forget it dude
9/1/2006 11:15:08 PM fl00d3d (F) Teh-Pwnerer you're on your own.
9/1/2006 11:15:44 PM fl00d3d (F) Teh-Pwnerer I'm sick of this shit......between your financial issues, the lack of trust, locking me out, making decisions on your own, lack of professionalism, immaturity in tsunami ... it's just got to me
9/1/2006 11:15:49 PM fl00d3d (F) Teh-Pwnerer Do not send me any money. I do not want it.
9/1/2006 11:16:00 PM fl00d3d (F) Teh-Pwnerer I have locked you out of everything and you are no longer welcome. Bye!
9/2/2006 10:59:42 AM (F) Teh-Pwnerer fl00d3d Well, thanks for nothing, have fun with your community, don't ever talk to me again, I hope you starve to death. And I want my $30 to go into teh-pwn0r@hotmail.com now. Failure to comply will result in me contacting paypal and taking this to the fullest extent of the law. Thanks.
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7- The $30 payment he's referring to is a payment made by JSchultz to my PayPal. I asked Justin what he wanted me to do with it, and he said 'keep it'.
8- I have an old paypal account that hasn't been used in awhile. It had a negative balance of about $122 when I entered into this relationship with him. He agreed to bring the balance back to zero in exchange for joint use of the account since I had a paypal debit card associated with it.
9- I recently moved FROM Maryland to Illinois because of a pretty serious family issue - and moved back TO Maryland about 2 months ago. This left my fiancee and I without jobs, and we were being watched over by her father which generously provided us with the necessities for the last couple of months. I explained most of this to Greg and he offered $50 so that I could get my own food so I didn't have to bother my fiancee's father. The fact that he's going this low in a public forum is a true testament to his immaturity.
10- When we were still together he was creating a Rencorner website and Frontlines website even though we agreed to use the Tsunami website and a new "CWN" website for business. This caught my suspicions and when I left him a few days later I removed any work that I had done to his RenCorner website and forums. He asks you to compare communities and as you will notice I have a fully developed community with 4 clans (one of which just joined the other day) and a series of active forums. When you look at Rencorner you see mostly two people talking to eachother ... himself and his friend "Kry" (Tyler).
That about sums up my side of the story.
I would also like to add, however, a few more things to consider: I have the confidence of a lot of people in this community - whereas he does not. I went to the server owners forum a few days after the split to "courtesy notify" other server owners of some of the issue related to this and NEVER made a single post or "anti-Greg" post/comment in the public area for anyone to see. He has now done just that.
j_ball430, you also have quite a few things to say about me yet you and I have never had interaction before. You do not know me nor do you know much about me. I am not going to go off and flame you for some of the ignorant things you said because I am hoping that this post will clear any questions you had in your mind.
Summary:
--fl00d3d goes to buy server from 'someone'
--'someone' says he is 23 years old and wants to do business with fl00d3d
--fl00d3d and 'someone' do business, then it comes out that 'someone' is actually 15
--fl00d3d forgives 'someone' because he came clean unprompted and seemed determined to clean up his act
--'someone' continued to be unprofessional and irresponsible so fl00d3d left him
And the whole time I was in regular dialog with Crimson and other server owners.
His post is just a ridiculous lie and exaggeration, in an attempt to save him some face in the community.
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i would like to comment this because i am 15 and i have alot of trust in money:
1)my mum has told me the pin number to every single one of here debit cards.
2) my mum will let me go down and withdraw an amount(mine or not) and trust i havnt sneeked some out.
3)if i got offerd access to someones(not my mums) i would always say no.
4)i bid alot on ebay, and always pay up.
but my comment on the fact your server got attacked was this:
Unlucky!
you should of used UDP Flood protection idiot.
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217872 is a reply to message #217656] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 09:38 |
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I have already installed it. fl00d3d, your a dumbass because you continue saying that I blame you for attacking my servers. Ok, I have no proof, I said one day I will.
I will never hack anyone because I would be fucked for doing it.
fl00d3d, just leave me alone. I came here to clear out the rumor that you started, about me stealing serials. I proved it wrong, and that's it.
Ok, so I have a habit for *copying* things. Big whoop, like you didn't copy the Terms of Service from www.lolomghi.net and put it on your site??  
You said I was stealing ideas from Tsunami... Well, look at every aspect of both our communites, they run very differently.
You think you left me first. But you never realized that I have been working on a new site for rencorner, new forums, and a new business site? Just because I never told you, doesn't mean I am working with you.
As I have said before, the reason for this topic has been reached. fl00d3d, if you want to talk, go on msn.
Pwner Out.
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217875 is a reply to message #217656] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 10:01 |
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Just out of genuine curiosity, what is is about the Terms of Service from www.reyox.net that makes them so unique that they would be singled out from every single Terms of Service ever made? I only ask this because a Terms of Service document, being the legal document that it is, is most likely something that has been standardized and mass produced. If this is the case, then it wouldn't be stealing, as everyone using exactly the same thing, or one with few differences.
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You think you left me first. But you never realized that I have been working on a new site for rencorner, new forums, and a new business site? Just because I never told you, doesn't mean I am working with you.
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In the world of business, the person who makes it official first gets the bragging rights to who ended it. Simply doing other work for other places doesn't mean it was at an end, despite your reasons for doing said work.
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217938 is a reply to message #217656] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 15:44 |
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Or perhaps the fact that I was the COO of the company at one point and have the approval of the CEO to use those TOS? We're still partners and friends to this day. Thanks for the free advertisement, though, idiot. lol
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217943 is a reply to message #217656] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 15:58 |
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Oh, as for your "I proved that I wasn't trying to take his serial" theory --- two comments on that:
1- You didn't prove anything. All that was proven is that you are UNABLE TO. Not that you didn't want to.
2- You said you came here to dispell a rumor about you stealing serials but that is not all you complained about. You made a nice long rant with 5 separate items. And as I quoted above, you lied about half of those.
Let's keep this thread going - its only hurting you more and more.
BTW - I just wanted to make something else public: The webhosting that you used to bribe Kamuix for his a0000004 nick is *MINE*. So I don't know if you're running IIS on one of your boxes (which is probably why its being attacked ROFL), but once Kamuix learns that he can get this free PROFESSIONAL webhosting from me - I'm sure that nick will find a new home. Rest in pieces.
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| Re: Some Bullshit I would Like to Clear [message #217981 is a reply to message #217656] |
Thu, 07 September 2006 23:41 |
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According to him he never planned on trying to steal any nicks/serials. He's just trying to clear up that rumor which I apparently started. All I said (in the server owners discussion) is that he had access to Kamuix's serial and had told me that he was going to try and get the serial reset so he would have control over all of the nicknames. Kamuix has informed us that it was a fake serial that he gave him and that there is no thread. I just wanted it cleared up that I wasn't lying about his DESIRE.
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