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| RenEvo... [message #21252] |
Mon, 19 May 2003 03:34   |
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General Havoc
Messages: 1564
Registered: February 2003
Location: Birmingham, England, Unit...
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Sad to see Renegade Evolution go  As they say, all good things must come to an end. In my opinion it has helped Renegade last much longer than i originally would have thought. It's done well. I too would have liked to see some more CTF maps and TeamDM ones.
I am currently working on a Team Deathmatch map that uses the script that Jon Wil wrote. Its nothing big, just a Nod refinery with a harvester, an outside area, teleporters in the lifts and pickups. I originally made it to test the Team DM script. I can release the map in its current state, it's only missing the "JFW_User_Settable_Parameter" script that I was using to allow the host to set how many kills to win. The script crashes Renegade after the map has been won, which is a problem at the moment, although I may be able to resolve it after more testing.
I hope this can be remembered like all other C&C games in the future. A lot of people have spend many hours of their lives deidcating time for this game. For me this is the longest I have ever continously played and been involved with a game. Lat it live on!
_General Havoc
Visit my website at http://renhelp.laeubi-soft.de powered by laeubi.de
"SHUT UP AND MOD" - Dante
"ACK is the Simon Cowell of modding" - Ultron10
Scripts.dll Debugger, Map Scripter and Tutorial writer
Computer Science Bsc
Aston University in Birmingham, UK
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| RenEvo... [message #21273] |
Mon, 19 May 2003 07:04 |
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Bah, I knew it'd happen.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| This is why... [message #21290] |
Mon, 19 May 2003 08:32 |
Carl
Messages: 165
Registered: March 2003
Location: Washington, US
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I spent every spare hour from the time renegade came out modding it.... i was one of the first making mod skins..... and i jumped at the chance to help renevo.... i dropped everything..... i stayed up days on end working on stuff.... stuff that never saw the public eye... and why? because, as K9 said, of the little shitheads in this community. The pieces of crap who whine and cry and say they will support but chicken out because of a 5 meg download, that they would rather spend on mp3's. That's why i left two months ago. Because the stress level got so extremely high. Because i felt i was working for nothing. I came back a few weeks ago. I knew it was already dying, but, Dante has a way about him. You can't break a promise to Dante. He has never broken a promise to ANYONE in this community. Just look at BR .Net. I talked with him several long nights over models and textures, and how much he wanted to quit doing everything. Not because he didn't love doing it. Because no one, nearly no one appreciated any of the time of our own lives we wasted away trying to make things for them. I know of one prominent person (who wished to remain namesless) who donated SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS to helpo out renevo. Now THAT my friends is dedication. We spent our time, much time that we didn't have, because EA cut us (everyone) off. That's why we stayed devoted. But no one out there looks for help. No one downloads the maps. CTF maps have been widely available. Servers arent the problem. Players are. I think generals really put the icing on the cake.
One issue i beleive, im not going to give any names, but people being arrogant assholes, and thinking they are the best, and not even SHARING their skills with others to expand the modding community. When one holds a monopoly on a certain thing, that kills a modding community because no one person can put out enough. These same kind of arrogant people unwilling to WORK TOGETHER on projects.
If things were done right around here, then we could have well over 200 better-than-westwood maps by now. Why don't we? because the big arrogance in this community is so appaling and anal retentive that there is no possible way to collaborate on a map. Imagine this.
In WS dev team, a map went through no fewer than 4 peoples hands BEFORE QA.
1. Mesh Artist - This person created the basic terrain mesh and places the building placeholders.
2. Texturing Artist - This person textured the terrain meshes and brought the land to life. Gave it character.
3. VIS - This person did everything related to creating the VIS meshes in Max
4. Level Edit - This person did all or most of the work in the commando editor, although this stage was often completed by two or more people, one concentrating on scripting.
I have preached and preached this ' assembly line ' mentality, inside and out of RenEvo, the problem being we couldn't get certain 'arrogant id's' who had 1337 skillz to get in on the job. You can't run a 4 person assembly line if you only have 2 people.
The problem with renegade modding goes to the very core of whats wrong with this community.
People can't work together.
People think they are better than everyone.
People don't care.
And Last...
People are F**king A**holes.
I devoted hundreds of hours i will never get back... and the only way to redeem that time.... is to do what i can to help Dante finish.... do what i promised him..... Because he has set an example for keeping promises.... an example i intend to follow... Unlike the rest of this goddamned commmunity
Thanks for nothing you goddamn fucktards....
May renevo kick your asses and make you whine for more once its gone...
y0
http://www.dead6.net
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| RenEvo... [message #21291] |
Mon, 19 May 2003 08:34 |
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Dante
Messages: 1039
Registered: February 2003
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I just said I knew it'd happen!
When they announced that they're making a renevo for PlanetSide, I just knew it.
And no ,I'm not lazy,there's something really bad with my internet provider, we have 600mb / months of download limit, or else we have extra fees.
I'd like to play REOL when WOL is offline, but yet, it's still asking me for a server list.And can'T click on the REOL server stuff.
All I hope is them to finish their revolution 
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planetside has nothing to do with my decision, the lack of support and all the wasted time i put into the game is why i made my decision.
RenEvo
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| Re: This is why... [message #21293] |
Mon, 19 May 2003 08:50 |
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| Carl |
I spent every spare hour from the time renegade came out modding it.... i was one of the first making mod skins..... and i jumped at the chance to help renevo.... i dropped everything..... i stayed up days on end working on stuff.... stuff that never saw the public eye... and why? because, as K9 said, of the little shitheads in this community. The pieces of crap who whine and cry and say they will support but chicken out because of a 5 meg download, that they would rather spend on mp3's. That's why i left two months ago. Because the stress level got so extremely high. Because i felt i was working for nothing. I came back a few weeks ago. I knew it was already dying, but, Dante has a way about him. You can't break a promise to Dante. He has never broken a promise to ANYONE in this community. Just look at BR .Net. I talked with him several long nights over models and textures, and how much he wanted to quit doing everything. Not because he didn't love doing it. Because no one, nearly no one appreciated any of the time of our own lives we wasted away trying to make things for them. I know of one prominent person (who wished to remain namesless) who donated SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS to helpo out renevo. Now THAT my friends is dedication. We spent our time, much time that we didn't have, because EA cut us (everyone) off. That's why we stayed devoted. But no one out there looks for help. No one downloads the maps. CTF maps have been widely available. Servers arent the problem. Players are. I think generals really put the icing on the cake.
One issue i beleive, im not going to give any names, but people being arrogant assholes, and thinking they are the best, and not even SHARING their skills with others to expand the modding community. When one holds a monopoly on a certain thing, that kills a modding community because no one person can put out enough. These same kind of arrogant people unwilling to WORK TOGETHER on projects.
If things were done right around here, then we could have well over 200 better-than-westwood maps by now. Why don't we? because the big arrogance in this community is so appaling and anal retentive that there is no possible way to collaborate on a map. Imagine this.
In WS dev team, a map went through no fewer than 4 peoples hands BEFORE QA.
1. Mesh Artist - This person created the basic terrain mesh and places the building placeholders.
2. Texturing Artist - This person textured the terrain meshes and brought the land to life. Gave it character.
3. VIS - This person did everything related to creating the VIS meshes in Max
4. Level Edit - This person did all or most of the work in the commando editor, although this stage was often completed by two or more people, one concentrating on scripting.
I have preached and preached this ' assembly line ' mentality, inside and out of RenEvo, the problem being we couldn't get certain 'arrogant id's' who had 1337 skillz to get in on the job. You can't run a 4 person assembly line if you only have 2 people.
The problem with renegade modding goes to the very core of whats wrong with this community.
People can't work together.
People think they are better than everyone.
People don't care.
And Last...
People are F**king A**holes.
I devoted hundreds of hours i will never get back... and the only way to redeem that time.... is to do what i can to help Dante finish.... do what i promised him..... Because he has set an example for keeping promises.... an example i intend to follow... Unlike the rest of this goddamned commmunity
Thanks for nothing you goddamn fucktards....
May renevo kick your asses and make you whine for more once its gone...
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I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Re: This is why... [message #21297] |
Mon, 19 May 2003 09:06 |
Carl
Messages: 165
Registered: March 2003
Location: Washington, US
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| Carl |
And what was the point of that?
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That's his I.Q. Didn't you know that? 
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No... and i sure as hell hope it don't follow me anywhere.... CnC Modifications for other games are sounding pretty pimp right now.... CnC Mod for HL2...
y0
http://www.dead6.net
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| RenEvo... [message #21298] |
Mon, 19 May 2003 09:06 |
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Ugh,he just scared me.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| RenEvo... [message #21354] |
Mon, 19 May 2003 15:29 |
Gun
Messages: 2
Registered: May 2003
Location: Deerfield, IL, USA
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Aww... The day I return, it ends... Well... There is nothing I can do of it...
The dead have rose, or rather, respawned...
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| RenEvo... [message #21733] |
Thu, 22 May 2003 10:07 |
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Dante
Messages: 1039
Registered: February 2003
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General (1 Star) |
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I have done nothing for this comunity except some bot mods, and would have liked to do more to Renegade
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You speak as though the game is dead... It's not... so maybe instead of having that negative attitude in this post, it should have read more like this.
| spreegem |
I have done what I can for this community so far, and I plan to do a lot more as soon as I know how.
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That's the type of person this community needs right now.
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why exactly would anyone want to make a bunch of mods for people who don't download them?
RenEvo
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| RenEvo... [message #21735] |
Thu, 22 May 2003 10:13 |
KIRBY098
Messages: 1546
Registered: February 2003
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Why would anyone download something they don't know exists?
You fellas failed to market your products to anyone except the mad community. It's why Ack is succesful, and you live in oblivion, thinking noone appreciates you.
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