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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216549 is a reply to message #215853] Thu, 31 August 2006 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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how long till it's out? is it early next year? cos if it is, there is still quite a bit of time from now until the realese for EA to get things finalised.

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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216566 is a reply to message #215853] Thu, 31 August 2006 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I hope it isn't early next year. I hope it is late next year, or even early the year after next. The more time the game spends in development, the less likely it is to be buggy and shitty and poorly balanced like, say, Battlefield 2. Or completely disconnected from the rest of its universe, like Generals. I sincerely hope that the devs get every last second of the time they need to ensure a quality production- and a full extra month on top of that, just in case.

Then again, this is EA we're discussing. Early next year might be a more realistic estimate, if the yammering masses can't shut their holes and be patient.


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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216586 is a reply to message #216491] Thu, 31 August 2006 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90 wrote on Thu, 31 August 2006 15:09

Renegade 2 didn't use an updated version of the engine. It was using the same one.


Not entirely true

According to several ex-Westwood members, they were using a completely new lighting engine.

Also, TAS- an artist who made several weapons from Renegade, as well as nearly all the concept drawings- had already made several models for Renegade 2 such as a new Mammoth Tank (Apocolypse Tank?) and Kirov. These models were as many as 10,000 triangles.

http://www.tasmediafile.com/3dCg/TankRT.jpg

http://www.tasmediafile.com/3dCg/ZepplinRT.jpg

http://www.tasmediafile.com/3dCg/Rhino_Concept.jpg

The reality is, they were still using W3D for Renegade 2, however from these models, the game would have still looked quite good in comparison to Renegade.


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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216590 is a reply to message #215853] Thu, 31 August 2006 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hope C&C 3 does the building like RA2. With seperate for defence structures and main structeres.

And cool Mammy above.


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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216605 is a reply to message #216586] Thu, 31 August 2006 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fobby[GEN] wrote on Thu, 31 August 2006 20:40]Not entirely true


The engine they showed the screenshots and videos on was still the same exact engine that's being used in Renegade right now. Untouched. True, they probably were going to update it, but what we've seen from Renegade 2 is still the same exact W3D engine.
Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216609 is a reply to message #215853] Thu, 31 August 2006 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216677 is a reply to message #216605] Fri, 01 September 2006 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90 wrote on Fri, 01 September 2006 02:45

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Fobby[GEN] wrote on Thu, 31 August 2006 20:40]Not entirely true


The engine they showed the screenshots and videos on was still the same exact engine that's being used in Renegade right now. Untouched. True, they probably were going to update it, but what we've seen from Renegade 2 is still the same exact W3D engine.


Yeah. The engine was the same, I agree, but there were some updates graphically (Like I mentioned, the lighting engine).


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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216886 is a reply to message #216605] Sat, 02 September 2006 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90 wrote on Fri, 01 September 2006 01:45

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Fobby[GEN] wrote on Thu, 31 August 2006 20:40]Not entirely true


The engine they showed the screenshots and videos on was still the same exact engine that's being used in Renegade right now. Untouched. True, they probably were going to update it, but what we've seen from Renegade 2 is still the same exact W3D engine.


The engine wasn't even really the point, they managed to update it anyway to achieve double the polygons that originally thought (the ammount they put into renegade), is what I was trying to get at Huh


Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216893 is a reply to message #215903] Sat, 02 September 2006 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 28 August 2006 23:45

DarkDemin wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 00:36

trooprm02 wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 00:32

From that description is sounds like crap Thumbs Up



You're a fucking idiot.


ROFL, wow thanks for this breaking news, I can finally sleep Sarcasm

People like diff stuff, so you go play your gay unpopular RTS, while I enjoy my FPS Thumbs Up



Lol

C&C 3 looks like a ownage RTS

if you watch a few videos, mamoth tanks have a new sweet shape, and move faster, still (hopeing) it has the strong firepower.

Its got the TS theme were you build silos Huh I hated that, to slow, there's a downside.

A 3rd team (the forgotten) seems like a riot Thumbs Up

3 zones, Red, Blue, Yellow, Hell atleast Nod control the yellow part, and GDI tule the Blue zone, Red zone is lifeless (literly) , so atleast bomb the crap out of the yellowzone Razz

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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216897 is a reply to message #215853] Sat, 02 September 2006 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow. So your judgement of this game is based on how shiny the new Mammoth looks and...what? You haven't even played the as-of-yet nonexistant demo. You haven't even read a playtester's review.

And people wonder why the quality of EA's product line continues to go down the shitter. Why bother putting effort into the production when people are willing to pay for a game on the basis of what they saw in a few early production vidcaps.

The least you can do for the C&C community is to hold back your judgement until there's something of real substance to look at.


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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216905 is a reply to message #215853] Sat, 02 September 2006 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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:/

Iv listened to "pod casts"

seen in-game trailers of this game

and you play C&C Renegade and call yourself a C&C fan?

Go Play Tiberian Sun, Dawn, Firestorm

then play RA1 (not reccommended) RA2 ana Yuris revenge, Then tell me C&C 3 tiberium is going to be another shitter

Please, go play RTS then tell me it sucks.

Plus knowing this game follows the Tiberum story, its going to have a good storyline Surprised, Kane returns Smile , new units and structures (so iv heard) .

RTS is not gay, it takes someone with skill to play it.

EDIT: Alltho EA cant keep faith in the games they make, You cant be judgemental SO early in the production, its not even released yet, and your saying its going to suck complete ass? Please.

I'm not one for debaiting, But just because i have my own oppinian on a game? you have to try and crush my fun?
If you hate EA so much, go e-mail them telling them, dont try and tell me a game I want to buy becuase it looks uber i shouldnt, I worry about myself, you go e-mail EA



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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216913 is a reply to message #216905] Sat, 02 September 2006 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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aaaalex06, you're a moron.

He anticipates that EA may screw up because they have done so several times before. He's worried that EA may screw up the franchise because he likes the series. He (probably) calls himself a C&C fan because he is one; he doesn't want it to be another Generals game that had nothing to do with the original C&C gameplay and storyline.

How can you be so hypocritical? You're saying "Oh, man! This game is going to be fucking AWESOME," but whenever someone else voices their own speculation and opinion, you try to shoot it down with "OMG don't dis this game, it isn't even out yet!" It seems the pot is calling the kettle black.


Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216923 is a reply to message #216905] Sat, 02 September 2006 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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aaaalex06 wrote on Sat, 02 September 2006 13:03

:/

Iv listened to "pod casts"

seen in-game trailers of this game

and you play C&C Renegade and call yourself a C&C fan?

Go Play Tiberian Sun, Dawn, Firestorm

then play RA1 (not reccommended) RA2 ana Yuris revenge, Then tell me C&C 3 tiberium is going to be another shitter

Please, go play RTS then tell me it sucks.

Plus knowing this game follows the Tiberum story, its going to have a good storyline Surprised, Kane returns Smile , new units and structures (so iv heard) .

RTS is not gay, it takes someone with skill to play it.

EDIT: Alltho EA cant keep faith in the games they make, You cant be judgemental SO early in the production, its not even released yet, and your saying its going to suck complete ass? Please.

I'm not one for debaiting, But just because i have my own oppinian on a game? you have to try and crush my fun?
If you hate EA so much, go e-mail them telling them, dont try and tell me a game I want to buy becuase it looks uber i shouldnt, I worry about myself, you go e-mail EA




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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216989 is a reply to message #215853] Sat, 02 September 2006 20:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok

Lets re-cap

RA1 Had a role in the C&C Storyline, Thus Kane in the ending Video, And EVEN tho i ment "Not reccommended for gameplay" you still had to be a stuck up ass and try and make a "fool" out of me?

Well i have played RA1 ONCE! in a friends House, I didnt realy like it. For is gameplay.



Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #217082 is a reply to message #215853] Sun, 03 September 2006 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just don't like RTS because its too slow paced, and only 2 people can play Huh (its 1vs1 all the time, which can get boring)

Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #217106 is a reply to message #215853] Sun, 03 September 2006 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can say a lot but saying RA1 wasn't good because you played it ONCE...

RA1 is one of the strongest C&C-games made! At its time it was also pretty novatoring.


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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #217112 is a reply to message #215853] Sun, 03 September 2006 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've actually only seen RA1 played once. At a friend's house. And I thought it was pretty badass at the time.

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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #217124 is a reply to message #215853] Sun, 03 September 2006 15:50 Go to previous message
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Quote:

Please, go play RTS then tell me it sucks.


Fool, I own the whole fucking series except for Generals. My sister's boyfriend owns Generals, however, as does my roommate- so I've played it enough to say that it sucks.

There is nothing pre-demo that could possibly give you any indication of how good or bad a game is. EA has, with Generals, proven that it cannot handle the series properly, so I am extremely dubious of any claims that C&C3 will be "the best yet," but I won't write it off until I've played it- that would just be stupid. It is equally stupid, however, to decide that a game will be awesome without having ever played it. You can't know what the balance is like, how the units work in practice, how well the story was done, etc, until you've sat down and played it yourself- that's a simple fact. Of course everything you've seen so far looks sweet. Do you seriously believe that EA would tell you about all the flaws the game might have?


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