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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216549 is a reply to message #215853] |
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futura83
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how long till it's out? is it early next year? cos if it is, there is still quite a bit of time from now until the realese for EA to get things finalised.
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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216566 is a reply to message #215853] |
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NukeIt15
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I hope it isn't early next year. I hope it is late next year, or even early the year after next. The more time the game spends in development, the less likely it is to be buggy and shitty and poorly balanced like, say, Battlefield 2. Or completely disconnected from the rest of its universe, like Generals. I sincerely hope that the devs get every last second of the time they need to ensure a quality production- and a full extra month on top of that, just in case.
Then again, this is EA we're discussing. Early next year might be a more realistic estimate, if the yammering masses can't shut their holes and be patient.
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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216586 is a reply to message #216491] |
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icedog90 wrote on Thu, 31 August 2006 15:09 | Renegade 2 didn't use an updated version of the engine. It was using the same one.
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Not entirely true
According to several ex-Westwood members, they were using a completely new lighting engine.
Also, TAS- an artist who made several weapons from Renegade, as well as nearly all the concept drawings- had already made several models for Renegade 2 such as a new Mammoth Tank (Apocolypse Tank?) and Kirov. These models were as many as 10,000 triangles.
![http://www.tasmediafile.com/3dCg/TankRT.jpg](http://www.tasmediafile.com/3dCg/TankRT.jpg)
![http://www.tasmediafile.com/3dCg/ZepplinRT.jpg](http://www.tasmediafile.com/3dCg/ZepplinRT.jpg)
![http://www.tasmediafile.com/3dCg/Rhino_Concept.jpg](http://www.tasmediafile.com/3dCg/Rhino_Concept.jpg)
The reality is, they were still using W3D for Renegade 2, however from these models, the game would have still looked quite good in comparison to Renegade.
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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216605 is a reply to message #216586] |
Thu, 31 August 2006 23:45 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
icedog90
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[NE | Fobby[GEN] wrote on Thu, 31 August 2006 20:40]Not entirely true
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The engine they showed the screenshots and videos on was still the same exact engine that's being used in Renegade right now. Untouched. True, they probably were going to update it, but what we've seen from Renegade 2 is still the same exact W3D engine.
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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216677 is a reply to message #216605] |
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[NE]Fobby[GEN]
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icedog90 wrote on Fri, 01 September 2006 02:45 |
[NE | Fobby[GEN] wrote on Thu, 31 August 2006 20:40]Not entirely true
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The engine they showed the screenshots and videos on was still the same exact engine that's being used in Renegade right now. Untouched. True, they probably were going to update it, but what we've seen from Renegade 2 is still the same exact W3D engine.
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Yeah. The engine was the same, I agree, but there were some updates graphically (Like I mentioned, the lighting engine).
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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216893 is a reply to message #215903] |
Sat, 02 September 2006 12:19 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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aaaalex06
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trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 28 August 2006 23:45 |
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trooprm02 wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 00:32 | From that description is sounds like crap
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You're a fucking idiot.
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ROFL, wow thanks for this breaking news, I can finally sleep
People like diff stuff, so you go play your gay unpopular RTS, while I enjoy my FPS
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Lol
C&C 3 looks like a ownage RTS
if you watch a few videos, mamoth tanks have a new sweet shape, and move faster, still (hopeing) it has the strong firepower.
Its got the TS theme were you build silos I hated that, to slow, there's a downside.
A 3rd team (the forgotten) seems like a riot
3 zones, Red, Blue, Yellow, Hell atleast Nod control the yellow part, and GDI tule the Blue zone, Red zone is lifeless (literly) , so atleast bomb the crap out of the yellowzone ![Razz](images/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif)
hmm and meny more things
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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216897 is a reply to message #215853] |
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NukeIt15
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Wow. So your judgement of this game is based on how shiny the new Mammoth looks and...what? You haven't even played the as-of-yet nonexistant demo. You haven't even read a playtester's review.
And people wonder why the quality of EA's product line continues to go down the shitter. Why bother putting effort into the production when people are willing to pay for a game on the basis of what they saw in a few early production vidcaps.
The least you can do for the C&C community is to hold back your judgement until there's something of real substance to look at.
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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216905 is a reply to message #215853] |
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aaaalex06
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:/
Iv listened to "pod casts"
seen in-game trailers of this game
and you play C&C Renegade and call yourself a C&C fan?
Go Play Tiberian Sun, Dawn, Firestorm
then play RA1 (not reccommended) RA2 ana Yuris revenge, Then tell me C&C 3 tiberium is going to be another shitter
Please, go play RTS then tell me it sucks.
Plus knowing this game follows the Tiberum story, its going to have a good storyline , Kane returns , new units and structures (so iv heard) .
RTS is not gay, it takes someone with skill to play it.
EDIT: Alltho EA cant keep faith in the games they make, You cant be judgemental SO early in the production, its not even released yet, and your saying its going to suck complete ass? Please.
I'm not one for debaiting, But just because i have my own oppinian on a game? you have to try and crush my fun?
If you hate EA so much, go e-mail them telling them, dont try and tell me a game I want to buy becuase it looks uber i shouldnt, I worry about myself, you go e-mail EA
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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216913 is a reply to message #216905] |
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cmatt42
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aaaalex06, you're a moron.
He anticipates that EA may screw up because they have done so several times before. He's worried that EA may screw up the franchise because he likes the series. He (probably) calls himself a C&C fan because he is one; he doesn't want it to be another Generals game that had nothing to do with the original C&C gameplay and storyline.
How can you be so hypocritical? You're saying "Oh, man! This game is going to be fucking AWESOME," but whenever someone else voices their own speculation and opinion, you try to shoot it down with "OMG don't dis this game, it isn't even out yet!" It seems the pot is calling the kettle black.
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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #216923 is a reply to message #216905] |
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Dover
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aaaalex06 wrote on Sat, 02 September 2006 13:03 | :/
Iv listened to "pod casts"
seen in-game trailers of this game
and you play C&C Renegade and call yourself a C&C fan?
Go Play Tiberian Sun, Dawn, Firestorm
then play RA1 (not reccommended) RA2 ana Yuris revenge, Then tell me C&C 3 tiberium is going to be another shitter
Please, go play RTS then tell me it sucks.
Plus knowing this game follows the Tiberum story, its going to have a good storyline , Kane returns , new units and structures (so iv heard) .
RTS is not gay, it takes someone with skill to play it.
EDIT: Alltho EA cant keep faith in the games they make, You cant be judgemental SO early in the production, its not even released yet, and your saying its going to suck complete ass? Please.
I'm not one for debaiting, But just because i have my own oppinian on a game? you have to try and crush my fun?
If you hate EA so much, go e-mail them telling them, dont try and tell me a game I want to buy becuase it looks uber i shouldnt, I worry about myself, you go e-mail EA
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I used to think you were a regular, run-of-the-mill moron, but now that you don't think RA1 is a real C&C game, you've revealed yourself to be a super moron. Congrats!
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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #217106 is a reply to message #215853] |
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Goztow
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You can say a lot but saying RA1 wasn't good because you played it ONCE...
RA1 is one of the strongest C&C-games made! At its time it was also pretty novatoring.
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Re: C&C 3 Making a come back? [message #217124 is a reply to message #215853] |
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NukeIt15
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Quote: | Please, go play RTS then tell me it sucks.
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Fool, I own the whole fucking series except for Generals. My sister's boyfriend owns Generals, however, as does my roommate- so I've played it enough to say that it sucks.
There is nothing pre-demo that could possibly give you any indication of how good or bad a game is. EA has, with Generals, proven that it cannot handle the series properly, so I am extremely dubious of any claims that C&C3 will be "the best yet," but I won't write it off until I've played it- that would just be stupid. It is equally stupid, however, to decide that a game will be awesome without having ever played it. You can't know what the balance is like, how the units work in practice, how well the story was done, etc, until you've sat down and played it yourself- that's a simple fact. Of course everything you've seen so far looks sweet. Do you seriously believe that EA would tell you about all the flaws the game might have?
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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