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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213671 is a reply to message #213662] Thu, 17 August 2006 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Of course we all know that in a real battle, the Empire would be crushed like eggshells. This argument has gone on for decades, but it pretty much comes down to "torp at warp". Federation ships are capable of controling their travel and weapons while at warp speed. The empire ships can only make Hyperspace jumps, that they must precisely calculate beforehand and have no control over until they complete the jump.

Several ways which the federation would own the Empire:
1. Firing weapons at warp speed. Star destroyers etc couldn't hope to hit them with their pitiful turbo lasers.

2. Antimater spread. Federation ships have the ability to fire bursts of antimatter which pretty much annihilate anything.

3. Transporter technology. Federation ships could beam some torpedoes inside enemy vessels, or beam darth vader out into space...lol

4. Superior armor. Even without their shields, there are many Federation ships like the U.S.S. Defiant, that have armor that can withstand sustained phaser fire. Heck while we are at it:

5. The U.S.S. Defiant. The defiant has superior armor, shields, and weapons. The defiant is also equipped with a cloaking device, so they could uncloak, unleash a volley of fire, and then dissappear. I would imagine that the Defiant could single-handedly wipe out the entire fleet of the Empire.

6. The Borg. The federation could just notify the Borg of where to find the Empire, and they would go to own them, especially when they found out they have a damn ROUND ship, which would surely offend the Borg with their square cubes Smile Just kidding of course, as the borg scout vessels are spherical.

P.S. This post is in jest. I have no desire to ignite a star trek vs star wars flamefest.
Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213672 is a reply to message #213671] Thu, 17 August 2006 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blazer wrote on Thu, 17 August 2006 19:35

P.S. This post is in jest. I have no desire to ignite a star trek vs star wars flamefest.


That's like pouring petrol all over something then saying you don't intend for anyone to ignite it.

I want to see flames Smile


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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213681 is a reply to message #213662] Thu, 17 August 2006 04:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hah, that was pretty cool. Must have taken quite a while to find the right dialogue.

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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213696 is a reply to message #213662] Thu, 17 August 2006 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Meh, it all comes down to the fact that the Star Wars galaxy uses laser technology. It was mentioned in one Star Trek:TNG that lasers couldn't even penetrate the Enterprise's "navigational shields", whatever those are.

But my post is with the same intent as Blazer's. No need to start an argument over which is better.
Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213709 is a reply to message #213662] Thu, 17 August 2006 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That was entertaining.

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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213715 is a reply to message #213662] Thu, 17 August 2006 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Meh, the splicing was kind of shitty... nice video though.
Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213719 is a reply to message #213662] Thu, 17 August 2006 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That was pretty funny. And as for Blazer, I'm not sure why the borg would help the Federation. They'd probably end up homing in on that signal and eleiminate the federation. Then it would be Borg Vs Empire with no federation in sight.

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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213726 is a reply to message #213662] Thu, 17 August 2006 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Star Trek, but not because of any technology.

Jean Luc Picard > Any StarWars character.

And Data. Data FTW.


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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213899 is a reply to message #213671] Fri, 18 August 2006 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blazer wrote on Thu, 17 August 2006 02:35

Of course we all know that in a real battle, the Empire would be crushed like eggshells. This argument has gone on for decades, but it pretty much comes down to "torp at warp". Federation ships are capable of controling their travel and weapons while at warp speed. The empire ships can only make Hyperspace jumps, that they must precisely calculate beforehand and have no control over until they complete the jump.

Several ways which the federation would own the Empire:
1. Firing weapons at warp speed. Star destroyers etc couldn't hope to hit them with their pitiful turbo lasers.

2. Antimater spread. Federation ships have the ability to fire bursts of antimatter which pretty much annihilate anything.

3. Transporter technology. Federation ships could beam some torpedoes inside enemy vessels, or beam darth vader out into space...lol

4. Superior armor. Even without their shields, there are many Federation ships like the U.S.S. Defiant, that have armor that can withstand sustained phaser fire. Heck while we are at it:

5. The U.S.S. Defiant. The defiant has superior armor, shields, and weapons. The defiant is also equipped with a cloaking device, so they could uncloak, unleash a volley of fire, and then dissappear. I would imagine that the Defiant could single-handedly wipe out the entire fleet of the Empire.

6. The Borg. The federation could just notify the Borg of where to find the Empire, and they would go to own them, especially when they found out they have a damn ROUND ship, which would surely offend the Borg with their square cubes Smile Just kidding of course, as the borg scout vessels are spherical.

P.S. This post is in jest. I have no desire to ignite a star trek vs star wars flamefest.

You forgot the trump card.

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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213903 is a reply to message #213662] Fri, 18 August 2006 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OMG, the Empire would pwn the Federation. Who cares about the superior technology that the Federation has... You under estimate the power of the force. Dam the Emporer and darth would just own em up with mad micro skillz and n00berfy them.


Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213905 is a reply to message #213903] Fri, 18 August 2006 14:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Reborn wrote on Fri, 18 August 2006 16:48

OMG, the Empire would pwn the Federation. Who cares about the superior technology that the Federation has... You under estimate the power of the force. Dam the Emporer and darth would just own em up with mad micro skillz and n00berfy them.

SpyGuy246 wrote on Fri, 18 August 2006 23:30


You forgot the trump card.

Q

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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213916 is a reply to message #213662] Fri, 18 August 2006 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Q is not a member of staff on the Enterprise. Granted he sometimes pretends to be, but he isn't. Even if he was on the Enterprise at the time, then who says he wouldn't turn tot he dark side ^^.


Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213923 is a reply to message #213662] Fri, 18 August 2006 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Because he exists within the Q Continuum, not physical reality, which is why he can alter anything about the universe that he chooses to.
Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213932 is a reply to message #213662] Fri, 18 August 2006 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So I guess if the Enterprise-D and the Death Star battled, Q would win?

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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213936 is a reply to message #213662] Fri, 18 August 2006 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Q's intentions are to help humanity... most of the time. This is why the Borg were introduced to the Enterprise after they were discovered 200 years prior on Earth after the events of First Contact, when assimilated Earth men sent a transmission that took (as I said) 200 years to reach the Delta Quadrant - the Borg Cube was headed to Earth and Q gave Starfleet advance knowledge of what to expect from them.

So knowing his intentions, it's entirely reasonable that he'd find some way to make the Enterprise win a battle against the "Empire" assuming the Enterprise was ever impotent against them.
Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213946 is a reply to message #213662] Fri, 18 August 2006 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Captain Kurk could beat Picard anyday.

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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213955 is a reply to message #213946] Fri, 18 August 2006 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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dude#1 wrote on Fri, 18 August 2006 19:29

Captain Kurk could beat Picard anyday.

Kirk.


Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #213956 is a reply to message #213662] Fri, 18 August 2006 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like Picard better.

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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #214076 is a reply to message #213936] Sat, 19 August 2006 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 18 August 2006 18:45

Q's intentions are to help humanity... most of the time. This is why the Borg were introduced to the Enterprise after they were discovered 200 years prior on Earth after the events of First Contact, when assimilated Earth men sent a transmission that took (as I said) 200 years to reach the Delta Quadrant - the Borg Cube was headed to Earth and Q gave Starfleet advance knowledge of what to expect from them.

So knowing his intentions, it's entirely reasonable that he'd find some way to make the Enterprise win a battle against the "Empire" assuming the Enterprise was ever impotent against them.

You're talking about the episode of ST:E, right? Was Q involved in that one?

All I've ever heard is how Q hates humanity, so it's interesting that he may just have been preparing them. Though a fat lot of good it did them at Wolf-359.


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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #214106 is a reply to message #213662] Sat, 19 August 2006 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Everyone knows Wolf 359 was just an excuse for Starfleet to "decommission" their design mistakes. Wink You know, the one shaped like a god damn spoon, among others...

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And their talented commanders too. Recycled to become Borg! Big Grin

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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #214171 is a reply to message #213662] Sun, 20 August 2006 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What design class was the spoonerific machine?
Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #214178 is a reply to message #214171] Sun, 20 August 2006 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://trekmania.net/the_fleet/utopia/others/saladin.htm

And here is larger picture:

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Re: The USS Enterprise-D versus the Death Star [message #214205 is a reply to message #213662] Sun, 20 August 2006 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Oh no, I was talking about the Freedom Class, USS Firebrand. Greg Jein slapped together a load of weird ships for that couple of seconds in "The Best of Both Worlds", where you see the remains of the Federation fleet destroyed by the Cube. They were never seen or heard of again.

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