bypasser - where to report [message #207362] |
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reckneya
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Hi,
I'm not sure where to post this but I've got a bypasser to report.
Not exactly sure if it's allowed to post IP adresses and IRC logs, so I'll wait with that till someone tells me to post or to pass the info by a different method.
Player ingame name was: Tw34km3
Did one shot kills with every weapon, and also repaired vehicles from his team in an instant. He was running renguard!
Either a new hack is out, or someone is constantly bypassing under another identity (ingame name + IP), cause this is the 3rd bypasser I have seen this month, only problem is I couldn't retreive their IP's due to a malfuncioning brenbot.
Reckneya.
Brandan wrote on Tue, 10 April 2012 07:13 | Also what happened to you can change your ISP I doubt you even know what a VPN is or even a remote idea of how the Internet even works.
| If I disregard the deficit of cohesion between his statements, and the lack of proper spelling and use of symbols I think I know what he was trying to say, and I lol'd. No hard feelings though Brandan
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Re: bypasser - where to report [message #207363 is a reply to message #207362] |
Mon, 10 July 2006 10:53 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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reckneya wrote on Mon, 10 July 2006 12:38 | Hi,
I'm not sure where to post this but I've got a bypasser to report.
Not exactly sure if it's allowed to post IP adresses and IRC logs, so I'll wait with that till someone tells me to post or to pass the info by a different method.
Player ingame name was: Tw34km3
Did one shot kills with every weapon, and also repaired vehicles from his team in an instant. He was running renguard!
Either a new hack is out, or someone is constantly bypassing under another identity (ingame name + IP), cause this is the 3rd bypasser I have seen this month, only problem is I couldn't retreive their IP's due to a malfuncioning brenbot.
Reckneya.
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Post the IRC logs please, no IP addresses though. Also, Tw34km3 has cheated in other servers under the same identity (Gamerz0ne and Black-Cell), so nobody stole Tw34km3's identity. His IP has changed multiple times though... Logs need to contain both evidence of a cheat and evidence that the server registered the bypasser as running RenGuard.
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Re: bypasser - where to report [message #207370 is a reply to message #207362] |
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reckneya
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[18:45:41] <MissionDMBRBOT> Player Tw34km3 joined the game
[18:46:11] <MissionDMBRBOT> Tw34km3 killed [GDE]reckneya (Nod Minigunner/Pistol vs GDI Minigunner)
[18:46:29] <MissionDMBRBOT> [GDE]reckneya: how did your buggy get instant repair
[18:47:12] <MissionDMBRBOT> {As}masterblast{L}: i dont know
[18:47:18] <MissionDMBRBOT> Tw34km3 killed [GDE]reckneya (Nod Minigunner/Pistol vs GDI Minigunner)
[18:47:22] <MissionDMBRBOT> [GDE]reckneya: i know
[18:47:26] <MissionDMBRBOT> {As}masterblast{L}: how
[18:47:38] <[GDE]reckneya> !pi Tw34km3
[18:47:38] <MissionDMBRBOT> Id Name Score Side Ping Address Kbits/s Time RG
[18:47:38] <MissionDMBRBOT> 4 Tw34km3 45 NOD 98 x.x.x.x<sensor> 52 000.01.53 x
[18:47:50] <[GDE]reckneya> !kb Tw34km3 hacker bypasser RG
[18:47:51] <MissionDMBRBOT> Host: [BR] Tw34km3 is being KICK-BANNED by [GDE]reckneya@IRC for: hacker bypasser RG
[18:47:51] <MissionDMBRBOT> Player Tw34km3 left the game
[18:47:51] <MissionDMBRBOT> Tw34km3 was kicked
[18:48:13] <[GDE]reckneya> !page Tw34km3 ip will be passed to renguard
[18:48:15] <MissionDMBRBOT> Page Sent to Tw34km3 --> ([GDE]reckneya@IRC): ip will be passed to renguard
[18:48:20] <MissionDMBRBOT> Player [GDE]reckneya left the game
[18:48:51] <MissionDMBRBOT> [Page] Tw34km3: go for it
[18:49:21] <[GDE]reckneya> !page Tw34km3 I will dont worry
[18:49:22] <MissionDMBRBOT> Page Sent to Tw34km3 --> ([GDE]reckneya@IRC): I will dont worry
[18:49:34] <MissionDMBRBOT> [Page] Tw34km3: ooo im so fucking scared
Hope this is evidence enough. It was in a Death Match server.
Brandan wrote on Tue, 10 April 2012 07:13 | Also what happened to you can change your ISP I doubt you even know what a VPN is or even a remote idea of how the Internet even works.
| If I disregard the deficit of cohesion between his statements, and the lack of proper spelling and use of symbols I think I know what he was trying to say, and I lol'd. No hard feelings though Brandan
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Re: bypasser - where to report [message #207473 is a reply to message #207362] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 00:25 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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I sent the tutorial to Crimson, in which he didn't even black out his nickname.
He changes IP and can change nick as he likes, so banning him won't help a lot, I'm afraid. It's just one of those big babies wetting their pense because they can bypass a renegade/renguard ban and cheat on Renegade. A 100 % loser indeed...
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Re: bypasser - where to report [message #207632 is a reply to message #207610] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 18:09 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Berkut wrote on Tue, 11 July 2006 18:00 | I'm not sure how this works, but would banning a person's subnet be effective? How exactly does a subnet work, anyway?
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Some ISP's have multiple subnets (Mine does), so even subnet bans (in addition to being very broad) can be bypassed. What we need is a PB-style GUID for RG.
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Re: bypasser - where to report [message #207684 is a reply to message #207632] |
Wed, 12 July 2006 04:01 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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=HT=T-Bird wrote on Wed, 12 July 2006 03:09 |
Berkut wrote on Tue, 11 July 2006 18:00 | I'm not sure how this works, but would banning a person's subnet be effective? How exactly does a subnet work, anyway?
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Some ISP's have multiple subnets (Mine does), so even subnet bans (in addition to being very broad) can be bypassed. What we need is a PB-style GUID for RG.
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Banning subnets means banning everyone that has that ISP. Not REALLY the best solution, heh?
We need to be able to ban on renegade serial, meaning it would cost at least 5 € to be unbanned from a server. After a couple of times, people wouldn't want to be banned anymore. Gamespy does it, so I don't understand why they don't let us do it for Xwis. But oh well. We got to work with the stuff we have.
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Re: bypasser - where to report [message #208166 is a reply to message #207362] |
Sat, 15 July 2006 03:31 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Hmmmm Canada.
ISP : Source Cable
Organization : Source Cable
Location : CA, Canada
I wonder how many customers they got on Renegade...
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Re: bypasser - where to report [message #208181 is a reply to message #208094] |
Sat, 15 July 2006 06:54 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Blazer wrote on Fri, 14 July 2006 16:47 | Yep he's a definite bypasser.
Looks like he changes IPs a lot, probably to avoid bans:
207.210.22.157
207.210.16.153
207.210.20.86
207.210.18.68
207.210.19.44
207.210.23.131
He also has used the nick "l0custX".
I've done what I can to ban him from RG for now. He may be able to evade it, so it will be cat and mouse until RG 1.034 which will give us some more options.
If he keeps giving you trouble, you can always ban the 207.210.x.x subnet. That would force him to connect through a udp proxy, which is easily done but requires him to use an external server to do it with etc...just keep making him waste his time and resources. It only takes you 5 seconds to ban his IP, but it takes him 5 mins to get a new IP and come back...eventually he will get tired of getting a hardon over making people mad, and go back to undressing his sisters barbie dolls.
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He may be able to change subnets as well (dunno how many his ISP has). And if your router has a "Clone MAC" option (mine does), it wouldn't take him quite that long to get a new IP addy (change in MAC = change in IP due to the way ARP works). I wish motherboards had like a mask ROM with a serial number in it on 'em, so that we could make it $150-$400 to get unbanned instead of $0...
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Re: bypasser - where to report [message #208447 is a reply to message #207684] |
Sun, 16 July 2006 17:19 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Goztow wrote on Wed, 12 July 2006 06:01 |
We need to be able to ban on renegade serial, meaning it would cost at least 5 € to be unbanned from a server.
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I'm affraid that serial numbers for renegade can be found on the internet also. But the technology to ban by serialkey exists, if I'm not mistaken, it's intergrated in the UNRULES banning system.
Brandan wrote on Tue, 10 April 2012 07:13 | Also what happened to you can change your ISP I doubt you even know what a VPN is or even a remote idea of how the Internet even works.
| If I disregard the deficit of cohesion between his statements, and the lack of proper spelling and use of symbols I think I know what he was trying to say, and I lol'd. No hard feelings though Brandan
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Re: bypasser - where to report [message #208450 is a reply to message #208447] |
Sun, 16 July 2006 17:42 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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reckneya wrote on Sun, 16 July 2006 19:19 |
Goztow wrote on Wed, 12 July 2006 06:01 |
We need to be able to ban on renegade serial, meaning it would cost at least 5 € to be unbanned from a server.
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I'm affraid that serial numbers for renegade can be found on the internet also. But the technology to ban by serialkey exists, if I'm not mistaken, it's intergrated in the UNRULES banning system.
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$5-$30 or the 5-15 minutes for a serial off of the Internet isn't enough of a barrier to a determined cheater. $50-$400/unban, (CPU or Mobo), now you are talking about a money drainer...
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Re: bypasser - where to report [message #208478 is a reply to message #207362] |
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Normally the serials on the net won't allow you to connect to Xwis because they won't be in the valid serials list.
Yes, hardware bans are more efficient but it ain't half as probable to happen in the near future as getting xwis id's.
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Re: bypasser - where to report [message #208566 is a reply to message #208503] |
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snoix wrote on Mon, 17 July 2006 06:52 | when WOL was switched to XWIS invalid serials actuly worked up until about a month ago.
infact they might still work.
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I doubt it. Even some valid serials have been known to be invalidated by XWIS.
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Re: bypasser - where to report [message #208921 is a reply to message #208181] |
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=HT=T-Bird wrote on Sat, 15 July 2006 14:54 |
Blazer wrote on Fri, 14 July 2006 16:47 | Yep he's a definite bypasser.
Looks like he changes IPs a lot, probably to avoid bans:
207.210.22.157
207.210.16.153
207.210.20.86
207.210.18.68
207.210.19.44
207.210.23.131
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if i used the modem i got for broadband my ipaddress would change everytime i restarted my computer, i can change it now by unpluging the router and plugging it back in. did you do a ip look up? you can see where a ip is from.
RG uses the hdd serial to see detect computers identity. it takes less than 5 minuts to rewrite that. to be totally honest RG is S***. if some n00b really wanted to cheat, it is easy. go to gogle and type in bypass rengaurd and you will get 100's of results. the only thing RG is good for is updates, maps get "de-buged" and blocks put on to stop b2b.
much more better would a server rengaurd, where the server detects cheating insead of a client. so no-one has to complain if some-one cheats. they get banned simple as that. it takes a small time to create another nick but ppl woulnt do that. it takes too long.
i am wrinting a script to detect the big head cheat in the future and see uf that is better than rengaurd, as soon as the bullet doesn't hit the head but the person dies; *BAM* they get banned.
btw: i don't want people to take offence to theis post, it is just what i think. the poeple who programed rengaurd did a good job. they should of planned it better. i also *HAVE* and i do mean *HAVE* *NOT* tested this theory. cheating is for dickheads or ppl just fooling on there own server for a laph
i seen a cheater server the other day, are ppl that go on that loosers, NO. they are just having fun.
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