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A friend of mine recently (And quite forcibley) aquainted me with the Japanese metal band Sex Machineguns. The weird part is, I kind of like them now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdfIkTziIRM&search=sex%20 machineguns

Normally I oppose Japanese music and everything it stands for, but these guys actually kick a lot of ass.


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Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #207914 is a reply to message #207913] Thu, 13 July 2006 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, I guess a machine gun is somewhat more powerful than a pistol...
Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #207917 is a reply to message #207913] Thu, 13 July 2006 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Never mind the bollocks, here's a Japanese metal band.
Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #207921 is a reply to message #207913] Thu, 13 July 2006 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I caught on to the Sex Pistols reference too. I don't know if they were fans or just got lazy with their naming, but in either case they rock pretty hard.

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Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #207933 is a reply to message #207913] Thu, 13 July 2006 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_rXMVbkHfI&search=dragon %20force

They aren't Japanese, but they have an Asian guy.


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Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #207947 is a reply to message #207913] Thu, 13 July 2006 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #207954 is a reply to message #207933] Thu, 13 July 2006 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nodbugger wrote on Thu, 13 July 2006 16:48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_rXMVbkHfI&search=dragon %20force

They aren't Japanese, but they have an Asian guy.

Every time I watch them, I want to declare those guys the best guitar players ever.


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Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #207962 is a reply to message #207913] Thu, 13 July 2006 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used to watch this show called FLCL. Good, but short. The guys who did all the music were this band called, "The Pillows."

These guys are awesome, but I think they're 'not all there.'

Anyway, I could only find one stream... of a song. Roll Eyes

It's called "Ride On Shooting Star," and is one of the better songs I have ever heard.

PS: Ooh! I found a video! A really... weird... video...
Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #207965 is a reply to message #207913] Thu, 13 July 2006 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It didn't seem all that bad but i would much rather listen to something i can understand, that would be preferably in english.
I listen to, metallica, disturbed,godsmack,and eminem lol mostly. but i also like alot of others they're just what i have the most of.
Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #207970 is a reply to message #207954] Thu, 13 July 2006 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SpyGuy246 wrote on Thu, 13 July 2006 21:37

Nodbugger wrote on Thu, 13 July 2006 16:48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_rXMVbkHfI&search=dragon %20force

They aren't Japanese, but they have an Asian guy.

Every time I watch them, I want to declare those guys the best guitar players ever.

Easy, they sound better than I thought they would but still a lot of mirrors and lights. One guitar, lead, solo, little riffs, clowning with the camera man and doesn't even bother looking at the strings
This video has been edited with a little tribute, but the video is so clean I like it

P.S. Butchered cliche warning, maybe smoke and mirrors would be more appropriate.


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Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #207992 is a reply to message #207954] Fri, 14 July 2006 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SpyGuy246 wrote on Thu, 13 July 2006 22:37

Nodbugger wrote on Thu, 13 July 2006 16:48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_rXMVbkHfI&search=dragon %20force

They aren't Japanese, but they have an Asian guy.

Every time I watch them, I want to declare those guys the best guitar players ever.



Not only the guitars, but the drummer. He plays double bass. There are not many people who can play the drums like that for more than a minute let alone an 8 minute song, constantly playing.

Not mention he can stay on beat the entire time. With other rock bands, the drummer just loses it at certain parts and it just becomes overwhelming and totally ruins any part of the song you may have considered music.


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Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #207994 is a reply to message #207913] Fri, 14 July 2006 00:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fury of the Storm by Dragonforce is my favourite. Amazing song.

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Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #208034 is a reply to message #207992] Fri, 14 July 2006 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nodbugger wrote on Fri, 14 July 2006 08:33

SpyGuy246 wrote on Thu, 13 July 2006 22:37

Nodbugger wrote on Thu, 13 July 2006 16:48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_rXMVbkHfI&search=dragon %20force

They aren't Japanese, but they have an Asian guy.

Every time I watch them, I want to declare those guys the best guitar players ever.



Not only the guitars, but the drummer. He plays double bass. There are not many people who can play the drums like that for more than a minute let alone an 8 minute song, constantly playing.

Not mention he can stay on beat the entire time. With other rock bands, the drummer just loses it at certain parts and it just becomes overwhelming and totally ruins any part of the song you may have considered music.


My drum teacher knows the guy who produces them, he claims when they're in the studio they don't have a clue what they're doing.

A common misconception with drums is that speed = amazing drummer.

Speed only really shows impressive technique.

Oh, and there are quite a few people who can blast like that for 8 minutes, one of them being Derek Roddy.

If you want pure amazing, check out the likes of Vinnie Colaiuta, basically the best drummer ever to live. For example, he could play 4 different time signatures at once whilst counting his 27 times table. He's a monster!

To me, I also find drummers such as Steve Jordan amazing for his ability to nail a groove with such feel. I had the pleasure of seeind Steve Jordan live with Eric Clapton about a month or so back. What he was doing wasn't technically amazing but real drumming is more about feel than speed or technicality.

Check out Billy Cobham and Steve Gadd (my biggest influence) also.


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Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #208041 is a reply to message #207947] Fri, 14 July 2006 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mision08 wrote on Fri, 14 July 2006 04:23

I'll put Finland up against anyone who wants to ROCK!

Ugh..terrible quality. Here's a bit better.


Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #208072 is a reply to message #207913] Fri, 14 July 2006 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A common misconception with drums is that speed = amazing drummer.



I agree. With that Dragon Force video, the drummer may be playing fast, but it's an incredibly basic rhythm.
Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #208154 is a reply to message #208072] Sat, 15 July 2006 01:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nodbugger wrote on Fri, 14 July 2006 20:17

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Check out Billy Cobham, Steve Gadd, Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta etc. and then tell me that he's an amazing drummer.

I still stand by it, he's not an amazing drummer, he is a drummer with impressive speed. Speed is not the only good attribute in a car, you could have a car that reaches 200 mph but if the turning, acceleration, gears, whatever were rubbish then it's simply a car with amazing speed.

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Re: I Normally Don't Support Japanese Music, But... [message #208157 is a reply to message #207913] Sat, 15 July 2006 01:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, but he is able to keep up the speed and stay on the beat, no matter how simple it is.

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P.S. On holiday for a week.


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Amazing technical skills by no means makes a song any better. RATM's Bulls on Parade is simultaneously a great rock song and an incredibly simple song to play.

I don't know why people care about pure speed in instrumental parts at all.


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Meh, I overall dislike Japanese music.

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Dragon Force are okay, but they aren't as entertaining as the Sex Machineguns.

Although I admit that's some pretty crazy guitar.


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Nodbugger wrote on Sat, 15 July 2006 02:27

Yes, but he is able to keep up the speed and stay on the beat, no matter how simple it is.


And? Those the most basic skills that a Percussionist learns. Keeping tempo and staying on the beat is not that big of a deal. It's expected that ANY musician is able to do that.
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warranto wrote on Mon, 17 July 2006 08:42

Nodbugger wrote on Sat, 15 July 2006 02:27

Yes, but he is able to keep up the speed and stay on the beat, no matter how simple it is.


And? Those the most basic skills that a Percussionist learns. Keeping tempo and staying on the beat is not that big of a deal. It's expected that ANY musician is able to do that.


And it becomes harder to do with speed and time.


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Not that much harder. Especially when you don't need to worry about fingering or tongues. The only thing to worry about is that your hand gets tired.(to everyone else: Yes, I know how that can sound, no jokes please)

Any percussionist worth their time would have little difficulty keeping the same standard "tricks" going, regardless of the tempo.
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