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Improving Renegade's Performance
Sunday - June 18, 2006 (08:41 AM) by Lion

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For those of you who continue to play C&C Renegade, you might want to check out http://www.understorm.net/rend3d9/ that offers the 'RenD3D9 Project' to help improve your gaming experience.

The RenD3D9 project makes C&C Renegade use Direct3D 9.0c instead of Direct3D 8.1. And adds certain optimizations to gain extra FPS and faster loading times on certain NVidia cards. Also comes with a new wwconfig to configure the additional features.

Check the http://www.understorm.net/rend3d9/ for more info and the download.


Supported Hardware:
Certain Intel hardware is supported aswell, let me know if they work out for you.

* ATI Radeon 8000 series
* ATI Radeon 9000 series
* ATI Radeon X000 series
* ATI Radeon X1000 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 4 series
* NVIDIA GeForce FX series
* NVIDIA GeForce PCX series
* NVIDIA GeForce 6 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 7 series


I tested this patch out for a bit on my XFX GeForce FX5200. With Anti Aliasing 4x and Antistropic Filtering 8x enabled I got 130 FPS.

Before I installed the patch I used to only get 80 FPS with Anti Aliasing and Antistropic Filtering disabled.

So a worthy patch to have installed. I did not, however, test it during online play.


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Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204419 is a reply to message #204417] Sun, 18 June 2006 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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COOL!

Will try when I get ren workin... Big Grin



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Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204420 is a reply to message #204417] Sun, 18 June 2006 23:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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that's awesome...

it would be even cooler if DX9 features were implemented, like better lighting and shadows. if that happened I would start playing again (not that graphics are better than gameplay, it would just be a new experience).

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Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204425 is a reply to message #204417] Sun, 18 June 2006 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I tried it with my GeForce 7300GS and it removed all the text and my cursor from the screen.. I'll try installing the version of DirectX that was linked to but I already have 9.0c..
Edit: It will only work in windowed mode for me.. Dont Get It
And what kind of changes would I be able to see? I have everything set at the highest level normally so I don't see much of a difference.. :S


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Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204426 is a reply to message #204417] Mon, 19 June 2006 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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will this work on the FX5200 PCI cards too, or just AGP/PCI-e?
Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204429 is a reply to message #204417] Mon, 19 June 2006 02:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You guys should thank scorpia for this.
Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204430 is a reply to message #204417] Mon, 19 June 2006 02:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I suppose using this on a Ti4200 will show little improvement?

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Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204431 is a reply to message #204417] Mon, 19 June 2006 02:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well, that card doesn't support DirectX 9.0.
Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204438 is a reply to message #204417] Mon, 19 June 2006 05:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

I tried it with my GeForce 7300GS and it removed all the text and my cursor from the screen.. I'll try installing the version of DirectX that was linked to but I already have 9.0c..
Edit: It will only work in windowed mode for me.. Dont Get It
And what kind of changes would I be able to see? I have everything set at the highest level normally so I don't see much of a difference.. :S


Did you check to see if your card was one of the supported cards on the list?

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will this work on the FX5200 PCI cards too, or just AGP/PCI-e?


It works on either AGP or PCI versions of each of the supported cards.


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[Updated on: Mon, 19 June 2006 05:24]

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Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204462 is a reply to message #204417] Mon, 19 June 2006 08:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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130 FPS on an FX 5200? haha.
Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204471 is a reply to message #204417] Mon, 19 June 2006 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Will this work on a GeForce 2 MX 440 64 Mb/will it be worth downloading?

I know it's a slow card, but my 9800 Pro burned out, literally, on me a couple months ago.


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Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204473 is a reply to message #204417] Mon, 19 June 2006 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't download this if you're card does not use DirectX 9.0c. You'll get worse performance than before (atleast that's how it should work if the engine uses newer technology).

Wouldn't this also benefit ATI cards as well?

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I updated the post with the list of supported hardware.

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Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204477 is a reply to message #204417] Mon, 19 June 2006 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Right... how can i uninstall this since it has worsend it down to 12 FPS?

The card is: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 running "nv4_disp.dll" as its main driver.

EDIT: its ok, i uninstalled it by deleting the two files (.exe and .dll)

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Umm... I'm guessing the GeForce 7300 is included in the NVIDIA GeForce 7 series so I'm pretty sure that it's supported..
I like playing in windowed mode anyways, finally I'm able to use VSync while playing windowed mode(my renegade freaks out when it gets over 90 fps so I use VSync to keep it stable) so that's pretty cool.


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Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204491 is a reply to message #204417] Mon, 19 June 2006 12:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I usually use vsync because the tearing gives me a headache.
Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204496 is a reply to message #204417] Mon, 19 June 2006 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My fps went 20% higher than before.

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Homey wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 14:33

My fps went 20% higher than before.

20-40% for me, and the game looks better.


Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204510 is a reply to message #204417] Mon, 19 June 2006 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, for some weird reason the game crashes right after I load. I got the newest DirectX and everything.

EDIT: Nevermind, I just needed to reboot. I tested it online and it works fine, but I don't even see any difference. My FPS is the same as it always is at those settings.

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icedog90 wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 22:06

I usually use vsync because the tearing gives me a headache.


tearing?what is vsync for anyways?


Re: Increase Renegades performance. [message #204515 is a reply to message #204417] Mon, 19 June 2006 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Vertical Synchronization is an option found in many games that allows the frame rate of the game to be matched to the refresh rate of the monitor. Generally, allowing VSync provides the greatest stability, but turning it off can allow for much higher frame rates.

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Dang this thing even fixed my generals. My water would always flash on any maps or menus and after this little patch its perfect now.

Question though, generals is the renegade engine but shouldnt this patch be directed tword renegade only?


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This just raised my average frame rate up by 5 to 10 frames. I like it so far, but if I see any adverse side to this its good we can just switch back. I mean I can live with 45 frames in a 40 player game while running outside. Not that big of a deal with me but it does help. Thanks Scorpio.

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Most people don't even notice, but it bugs the crap out of me if it's off. By tearing I mean you actually see lines across the screen between frames. it's kind of hard to describe, you have to see it. I don't know why almost everyone doesn't even notice, but I see it so easily.

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icedog90 wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 19:55

Most people don't even notice, but it bugs the crap out of me if it's off. By tearing I mean you actually see lines across the screen between frames. it's kind of hard to describe, you have to see it. I don't know why almost everyone doesn't even notice, but I see it so easily.


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