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Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #201401 is a reply to message #188804] Mon, 29 May 2006 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Religion has as much "evidence" as science does. Religious text that explain things , Religious leaders who have personal knowledge relating to God and documented "experiments" that can only qualify if they have no scientific explanation.

The only difference is who you choose to believe, as you have no personal knowledge of almost anything science or religion claims.


Religious texts, that all disagree with each other and were written by men, something everybody can do (see book of mormon). Scientific explanaitions must abide by the laws of physics to be considered, however, everybody can claim that he has spoken to God. It's nothing but an empty statement that everybody can say. I would say there is a difference between those two types of "evidence". One is intuition and the other is real evidence.

Where exactly are you going here? Are you claiming that a Big Bang never happened or that "God" started the Big Bang?

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Please don't contradict yourself in the same sentence. You can not prove how something "can", you can only prove how something "did".

True, the experiments give an explanation as to how life "can" start, but it in no way proves how life "did" start.

Another possibility (without invoking the word "God") is that we spontaneously generated. After all, if the universe can do it, so should we be able to. Or, we were not created, but we always existed, in some other form than we had now. There is not always a chemical reaction required to change forms (ie. evolution), so perhaps humanity came to exist through reasons of that.


How is that a contradiction? Before the experiment, there wasn't any proof that it could have happened that way, now there is. The next step is proving that it did. It was proven that life can start from chemicals...how is that a contradiction?

Yes, I've never claimed otherwise. However, it is the only possible way that has been proven to work. There is no proof or evidence whatsoever that life can start spontaneously, but there is that is started out of chemicals. You're not only assuming that life can start spontaneously, but you're assuming as well that the same rules that apply to the universe apply to a single planet inside the universe...that's extremely far-fetched especially considering that we've found a much more plausible way.


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