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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #189540 is a reply to message #188804] |
Sat, 11 February 2006 16:45   |
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #189779 is a reply to message #189536] |
Mon, 13 February 2006 12:10 |
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| Nightma12 wrote on Sat, 11 February 2006 23:36 |
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Quoted For Truth (Internet jargon) - Used on internet forums following a quote to make sure that the first 'poster' cannot go back and change what they've already posted.
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I though it stood for "Quite F*cking True" never mind.
What's really annoying about all this is that if Christian's had been offended by something a took to the streets we'd be condemned by everyone and the police would arrest as many as they could but because they're Muslims in a Christian country nothing happens.
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That's irrelevant to this thread.
Common fallacies of logic and rhetoric:
Ad hominem - attacking the arguer and not the argument.
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #190207 is a reply to message #189527] |
Thu, 16 February 2006 12:47 |
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Ok, these events have made me sad. I know what Im about to say may be wrong but for me its true.
I have lost all my respect for the Muslim world. I use to think, sure some extremists but mostly normal down to earth types. Then this happened. Now I don't see them a civilized people. It just sickens me. To think that a people, in the civilized world, could do this...Im sorry for anyone who is Muslim but what the hell is wrong with you people? Someone draws on paper and you start killing each other and burning down buildings? You can't do shit like that. Sure you can have your rallies and such but when you kill innocent people and your own people then something is wrong. Islam needs to take a good long look at itself and wonder if it can survive in the world as it is.
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #197821 is a reply to message #188804] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 13:13 |
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God Bless You! You see what is going on and all the bullshit that goes with it. But a little thing you should know is that Alquada is said to start these things. But they should be smart, but when you hear only one voice you get determined, and think that it is the act of God. You see, they don't have CNN, or ABC, they don't have the truth, so these Alquada bastards take advantage of that. Some Arabs knew the truth and did not protest, and told others not to as well.
Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!
The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.
Americas Founding Fathers Must Be Turing In Their Graves, As Well As Every Revolutionary, Every Soldier That Has Fought For This Great Country.
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #198103 is a reply to message #197821] |
Fri, 28 April 2006 15:12 |
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Ow, and IM NOT A NODBUGGER I only follow when its for the right!!!!!!!!!!!! Im a free person I can follow then leave!!!!
Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!
The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.
Americas Founding Fathers Must Be Turing In Their Graves, As Well As Every Revolutionary, Every Soldier That Has Fought For This Great Country.
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #199419 is a reply to message #199413] |
Sat, 13 May 2006 16:22 |
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| SCOTT9 wrote on Sat, 13 May 2006 22:03 |
Muslims=pricks who are making a 65 decibal speaker mosque in my town and guess how much they paid for the land 1 fucking pound
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Not you again.
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #199438 is a reply to message #198101] |
Sat, 13 May 2006 21:54 |
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| thrash300 wrote on Fri, 28 April 2006 17:10 |
Yea, your kind of right they just talk talk talk, I mean seriously yap, yap, yap, like it, going to fix anything. Have you watched it?
They get off topic sometimes! 
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #199785 is a reply to message #199413] |
Wed, 17 May 2006 07:43 |
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| SCOTT9 wrote on Sat, 13 May 2006 16:03 |
Muslims=pricks who are making a 65 decibal speaker mosque in my town and guess how much they paid for the land 1 fucking pound
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And you're a racist. Prejudiced/Religionist/whatever the hell you call him these days.
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #199856 is a reply to message #188804] |
Wed, 17 May 2006 21:12 |
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm..... I heard that almost the same thing is happening with Christians and the DaVinci code. Although I don't think they did anything destructive, I find this rather ironic that they taunted the Muslims for being mad over a cartoon while they get mad over a book/movie. 
"I wumbo, you wumbo, he, she, wombo, wombo, wombo-ing, wobology, the study of wombo, it's first grade SpongeBob" - Patrick Star.
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #199943 is a reply to message #188804] |
Thu, 18 May 2006 16:21 |
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You couldn't be more wrong. Muslims ATTACKED AND KILLED PEOPLE AND DESTROYED PROPERTY over these cartoons. The most any Christian has done over The Da Vinci Code is boycott them both or publish rebuttals.
Don't even try comparing the two.
Besides, even if they WERE comparable, the most your ridiculous attack on Christians can be considered is, at most, off topic for this thread. This thread is about how muslims RIOTED AND KILLED over the publishing of these cartoons.
Take your attacks on Christianity somewhere else.
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #199953 is a reply to message #188804] |
Thu, 18 May 2006 18:50 |
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It's not an attack.... I'm just saying that I find both Muslims and Christian do different things, but have a somewhat similar anger.
"I wumbo, you wumbo, he, she, wombo, wombo, wombo-ing, wobology, the study of wombo, it's first grade SpongeBob" - Patrick Star.
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #200025 is a reply to message #188804] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 08:21 |
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It most certainly was an attack. You try to excuse the actions of muslims because Christians, you claim, respond to criticism in a way similar to muslims.
You're equating peaceful protests with violent riots, which is just plain ludicrous.
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #200073 is a reply to message #188804] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 12:16 |
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Question:
Hydra, are attacks on Christianity any worse than attacks on Islam? If so, why?
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #200363 is a reply to message #188804] |
Mon, 22 May 2006 07:52 |
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But then again, what rights do European knights have for pillaging the holy land?
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As long as there has been one true god, there has been killing in his name.
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| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #200478 is a reply to message #200031] |
Mon, 22 May 2006 23:09 |
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| Javaxcx wrote on Fri, 19 May 2006 11:52 |
No he didn't. He said exactly what he reiterated to you in his second post. The irony is not really all that intriguing, but it's still there.
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It may not be as vehement as I suggested in my earlier post, but it was still an attack in that he tried to downplay the actions of those muslims by saying "well Christians complain about stupid stuff like this too."
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I spoke to many Christians about the cartoons, and none of them responded to "well, it's what they believe, they have a right to be mad", whereas most of them responded with "wow, it's just a cartoon".
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They probably said "wow, it's just a cartoon" because of the way the muslims responded to them; no sane person is going to say, "They have a right to be mad, which justifies their rioting."
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I think you need to reevaluate why it is you got so angry in the first place. Because it certainly wasn't over anything that was inferred.
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Where did I get angry? The all-caps? Those are there simply for emphasis.
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Question:
Hydra, are attacks on Christianity any worse than attacks on Islam? If so, why?
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No, though you want me to say yes.
Both religions have been attacked in similar ways--Islam with the cartoons, Christianity with The DaVinci Code book and movie.
Both have responded in starkly different ways--Islam with violent riots, Christianity with peaceful protests (and banning of the movie in some countries at the worst; nothing violent (to my knowledge))
Is it an attack to say Islam responded in a much more violent way to criticism than Christianity? How about if I said that it is illegal and punishable by death to be a Christian in every country governed by Islamic law while it is perfectly legal to be a muslim in most countries founded on Christian principles?
Of course not; it's a simple observation of reality. The modern-day media leads us to believe that these are attacks because it has become politically incorrect to confront the brutal facts.
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But then again, what rights do European knights have for pillaging the holy land?
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If you want to bring the Crusades into this (wars started IN REACTION TO muslim aggression), you can throw all relevancy of your argument to today's world (that's the year 2006, not the year 1306) right out the window.
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As long as there has been one true god, there has been killing in his name.
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As long as there have been multiple true gods, there has been killing in their name.
As long as there has been no god, there has been killing in our name.
As long as there has been a human race, there has been killing in man's name.
For as long as I don't have what you have, I have always been killing you to get it.
You can't blame on religion what has been caused by our nature.
If anything, religion serves to assist us in controlling our nature and NOT killing each other just to get the other guy's stuff. That whole "love your neighbor" and "serve others" thing wouldn't even exist had it not been for religion. Mankind would have never left the caves and advanced to where we are now had we never had any religion.
Sure there's been killing in His name, but moreso than killing, there has been innovation.
Amen.
P.S. Word to the wise: don't take anything in The DaVinci Code for fact without doing your own independent research.
There's more evidence for a secret treasure hidden by Freemasons that our Founding Fathers left clues to find in our founding documents than there is for Jesus's supposed daughter.
Disney ends up making a more compelling case than Ron Howard.
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